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Title: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: danny on February 16, 2012, 08:21:50 PM
Malaysia Watch Forum members have voted for their favorite watch brands for 2011 in 2 categories.

First, the results for the Luxury Watch category: In descending order the top five luxury brands are Rolex, Panerai, Patek Philippe, IWC and Omega. The results represented in pie-chart format:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7199/6886543525_a003d36dca_b.jpg)

The results for the Affordable Watch category: In descending order the top five affordable brands are Seiko, Ball, Bell & Ross, Tag Heuer and Casio.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7047/6886544019_3a9489fe97_b.jpg)

Kindly note that those brands which were featured in the survey but that did not garner any votes have been omitted from the results above.

The original surveys can be see here:

Malaysia Watch Forum Affordable Watch Brand Survey 2011 (http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,4850.0.html)

 Malaysia Watch Forum Luxury Watch Brand Survey 2011 (http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,4849.0.html)

 :Cheers:
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: danny on February 16, 2012, 08:33:07 PM
Some personal observations:
 
In the Luxury category Patek Philippe has replaced Omega in the 3rd position. Looks like MWF members have grown more discerning in their taste for luxury watches.

In the Affordable category Seiko has expanded its lead by a substantial margin. Value proposition still remains an important criteria in this category.

 :Cheers:

Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: chrisyen on February 17, 2012, 09:09:51 AM
zenith shocked me....
strong support from east msia? :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: JOS2012 on February 17, 2012, 09:43:33 AM
Patek in 3rd whilst Rollie and Panerai 1st/2nd ?
I beg to differ with your conclusion..
Whilst different ppl have diff parameters in evaluating a watch, exposure does play a part.
In other forums I'm sure the survey would be very different


Some personal observations:
 
In the Luxury category Patek Philippe has replaced Omega in the 3rd position. Looks like MWF members have grown more discerning in their taste for luxury watches.

In the Affordable category Seiko has expanded its lead by a substantial margin. Value proposition still remains an important criteria in this category.

 :Cheers:
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: hanz079 on February 17, 2012, 10:18:07 AM
zenith shocked me....
strong support from east msia? :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
Only 1 vote leh from me...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: Enkidu on February 17, 2012, 10:25:14 AM
Happy to see Glashutte Original at the 7th position but a little surprised Grand Seiko is so far down despite all the good reviews and favourable words by owners.
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: hanz079 on February 17, 2012, 10:37:07 AM
Patek in 3rd whilst Rollie and Panerai 1st/2nd ?
I beg to differ with your conclusion..
Whilst different ppl have diff parameters in evaluating a watch, exposure does play a part.
In other forums I'm sure the survey would be very different


Some personal observations:
 
In the Luxury category Patek Philippe has replaced Omega in the 3rd position. Looks like MWF members have grown more discerning in their taste for luxury watches.

In the Affordable category Seiko has expanded its lead by a substantial margin. Value proposition still remains an important criteria in this category.

 :Cheers:
Of course different forums will have different conclusions.
While Patek is certainly a very luxurious watch, I am sure it is well out of reach for the normal Malaysians...
Rolex and PAMs? Save hard enough and it's reachable...
It's still a luxury watch, just on a different level.
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: JOS2012 on February 17, 2012, 10:52:05 AM
hi hanz,
I know what you mean. Unfortunately affordability was not a factor in the survey. It was just Luxury..
I'm not trying to be a snob as I can't afford a PP, Lange, FPJ, RM or AHCI either but I would not place them in the ranks of Rollies or Pams..
Perhaps we should have Haute Horologerie (Unlimited Budget), Luxury, Branded....
something like how SWATCH categorises their different brands.
No offence to Rollies or Pam owners but I think the survey was skewed..



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Of course different forums will have different conclusions.
While Patek is certainly a very luxurious watch, I am sure it is well out of reach for the normal Malaysians...
Rolex and PAMs? Save hard enough and it's reachable...
It's still a luxury watch, just on a different level.
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Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: takashi78 on February 17, 2012, 11:18:42 AM
Patek in 3rd whilst Rollie and Panerai 1st/2nd ?
I beg to differ with your conclusion..
Whilst different ppl have diff parameters in evaluating a watch, exposure does play a part.
In other forums I'm sure the survey would be very different

When you say "your" conclusion, what do you mean?
This result is a summary of a vote by all the members here. Not just the mod or owner of the forum.
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: JOS2012 on February 17, 2012, 11:31:02 AM
My mistake in not being specific...
Your conclusion I was referring to was :
<<Looks like MWF members have grown more discerning in their taste for luxury watches.>>

But having read your comment a 2nd time round perhaps you're not really wrong as you said 'more discerning' versus 'are discerning'

Patek in 3rd whilst Rollie and Panerai 1st/2nd ?
I beg to differ with your conclusion..
Whilst different ppl have diff parameters in evaluating a watch, exposure does play a part.
In other forums I'm sure the survey would be very different

When you say "your" conclusion, what do you mean?
This result is a summary of a vote by all the members here. Not just the mod or owner of the forum.
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: chrisyen on February 17, 2012, 11:33:20 AM
if every1 vote base on

what the brand did last yr - new watch design, pricing, green participation, newly improve parts, new techs....

then the result shd be different....

sadly most ppl just vote their prefered brand....
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: ck77 on February 17, 2012, 11:57:18 AM
The result is based on the votes from us in MWF (well, some of us).
Obviously the sampling is not as large as international one's.
 :Cheers:
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: JOS2012 on February 17, 2012, 12:20:21 PM
I hope I did not offend anyone, not my intention.
I would have been equally incredulous if the survey has resulted in Grand Seiko or Omega being voted tops (although GS is ONE of my favoured choices which also includes Swiss &  German manufactures whenever I have the itch to to buy 'that next watch. Omega also used to be one of my favourites)..

Most of the brands in the survey are good watches just that some are what I would categorise as tool watches whereas some are haute horologie (technical stuff such as Minute Repeaters, Tourbillons, Perpetual Calendars, astrology watches such as by VC, JLC, UN - Ludwig Oechslin) and some are haut gamme (jewelry).


 
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: danny on February 17, 2012, 01:06:34 PM
I hope I did not offend anyone, not my intention.

No offence taken. As stated in the original post for the survey which I quote here:
"Malaysia Watch Forum's unscientific and informal luxury watch brand survey ..."
the whole exercise is not meant to be exhaustive and the methodology is unscientific at best. The result should always be taken with a large pinch of salt.
However it does reflect the opinions of MWF members who cared enough about the issue to actually cast their votes.

 :Cheers:
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: TheHobbit on February 17, 2012, 01:11:33 PM
zenith shocked me....
strong support from east msia? :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
Only 1 vote leh from me...  ;D ;D

Sure or not.....  ;D ::) ;D
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: Angryrodent on February 25, 2012, 01:30:51 AM
GO was my vote... but I still find Omega gives most for the money it's kind of a prestigous Seiko (Grand Seiko sadly most ppl wont get what a great watch it is) but im biased to both Omega and Seiko and just dreaming of GO panomatic (but i will get it) Kinda like I played in my local team (UFC) but dreamt of Barcelona (maybe they will have a goodwill game or charity game where dumbasses like me can pay 2 play hehe)
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: JOS2012 on February 25, 2012, 07:32:54 AM
 :Cheers: another one who voted GO… :thumbsup:
Lange is my ultimate but unaffordable for me presently, if new. GO is more value for money and still affordable. GS to me is currently undervalued and quite reasonable in price...


GO was my vote... but I still find Omega gives most for the money it's kind of a prestigous Seiko (Grand Seiko sadly most ppl wont get what a great watch it is) but im biased to both Omega and Seiko and just dreaming of GO panomatic (but i will get it) Kinda like I played in my local team (UFC) but dreamt of Barcelona (maybe they will have a goodwill game or charity game where dumbasses like me can pay 2 play hehe)
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: Enkidu on February 25, 2012, 11:15:32 AM
GO was my vote... but I still find Omega gives most for the money

I too voted for GO. Personally, I feel the GO is at least a notch above Omega, but that's just my personal prejudice against Omega.  ;D
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: Angryrodent on February 25, 2012, 01:53:09 PM
GO was my vote... but I still find Omega gives most for the money

I too voted for GO. Personally, I feel the GO is at least a notch above Omega, but that's just my personal prejudice against Omega.  ;D

I agree but I love Omega... I dun get bonuses that allow GO  :Blue:
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: JOS2012 on February 25, 2012, 02:37:16 PM
Of course complication for complication GO is above Omega. Just look at the finishing of their movements. Swan neck regulator, engraved plates, gold chatons..
For me..
GS is super value for money, Omega is value for money, GO is affordable, Lange is my golden chalice..

GO was my vote... but I still find Omega gives most for the money

I too voted for GO. Personally, I feel the GO is at least a notch above Omega, but that's just my personal prejudice against Omega.  ;D
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: siodee on February 29, 2012, 02:46:30 PM
Some of the brands were missing in ranking last year and are back this yrs survey  :thumbsup:. Still no one can challenge the King.. :Laughing_on_floor:

Well, at least I see Ball rank no.2 and B&R no.3 in the affordable categories. Either our members are rich or the price of these 2 brands have drop.... :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: Watchnewby on March 06, 2012, 12:03:37 PM
For luxury watch category, still no one can challenge the "King". Maybe the reason is MWF members in Malaysia perceive that the "King" is their favourite brand of luxury watch. 

Well, at least I see Seiko made it to nearly half the votes in the affordable category. (30 votes as compared with Ball in second place with 6 votes and the third placing brand with 5 votes).
Agreed with Bro Siodee assessment that "Either our members are rich or the price of these 2 brands have drop" but there could be another factor - some of our MWF member may have some good windfall, hence voted these 2 brands to be at #2 &#3 respectively.
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: bmw99 on March 08, 2012, 07:09:30 PM
For luxury watch category, still no one can challenge the "King". Maybe the reason is MWF members in Malaysia perceive that the "King" is their favourite brand of luxury watch. 
i think maybe the definition was not really clear as it was "brand survey - luxury category". if i were to vote i will surely vote for my dream watch which i may not be able to afford ;)
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: Angryrodent on April 19, 2012, 01:14:31 PM
I think Seiko should give rebates to ppl on forums... don't think as many people would know how great they are and understand that maybe some snotty nosed b*stard might think low of it going around with his breitling (have nothing against Breitling) the ppl who knows a lill bit will like em... my seiko 5 kinda sucks but thats because i went to get it rucked, my king seiko never faults me and its older than me. Same goes for my Omega seamaster from the 60's, works perfectly!
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: chrisyen on April 19, 2012, 01:47:47 PM
I think Seiko should give rebates to ppl on forums... don't think as many people would know how great they are and understand that maybe some snotty nosed b*stard might think low of it going around with his breitling (have nothing against Breitling) the ppl who knows a lill bit will like em... my seiko 5 kinda sucks but thats because i went to get it rucked, my king seiko never faults me and its older than me. Same goes for my Omega seamaster from the 60's, works perfectly!

if seiko knew how to market.... (by rebate ppl like us).... lol.... i'm sure seiko will get more positive publicity
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: myric on April 24, 2012, 09:19:53 AM
Longines was not considered?
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: danny on April 24, 2012, 02:53:56 PM
Longines was not considered?

Longines was in the survey poll but received no votes. Hence it's not shown in the results.

 :Cheers:
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: Angryrodent on April 24, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
nothing wrong with Longines made some nice ones
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: Shamshul Mohamed Hassan on June 17, 2012, 01:35:06 PM
Suprising Seikooooooo.......
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: JOS2012 on June 17, 2012, 02:40:31 PM
There is Seiko and there is SEIKO….they are a 1st class vertically integrated manufacture with a 130 year history

You cannot of course compare a RM 200 Seiko to a RM 2,000 Swiss/German but for the same amount of money say RM 10,000, you'll be surprised at the quality that Seiko can produce…

Seiko has a wide range such as Seiko 5, Prospex, Brightz and Ananta even without mentioning the higher end Grand Seiko, Galante, Credor range…Seikos (which include Ananta) are priced from RM 200 to RM 20,000...
Grand Seikos range from RM 10K to RM 100K..
Credors on the other hand goes up to > USD 100,000


Suprising Seikooooooo.......
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: takashi78 on June 17, 2012, 02:50:37 PM
Still cant forgive myself for missing on a purchase on a Credor ultra thin skeleton.....
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: JOS2012 on June 17, 2012, 03:22:06 PM
If I had seen it, I'd be bidding against you... ;D

Still cant forgive myself for missing on a purchase on a Credor ultra thin skeleton.....
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: Watchnewby on June 20, 2012, 02:28:03 PM
There is Seiko and there is SEIKO….they are a 1st class vertically integrated manufacture with a 130 year history

You cannot of course compare a RM 200 Seiko to a RM 2,000 Swiss/German but for the same amount of money say RM 10,000, you'll be surprised at the quality that Seiko can produce…

Seiko has a wide range such as Seiko 5, Prospex, Brightz and Ananta even without mentioning the higher end Grand Seiko, Galante, Credor range…Seikos (which include Ananta) are priced from RM 200 to RM 20,000...
Credors on the other hand goes up to > USD 100,000


Suprising Seikooooooo.......

Yes, SEIKO Rocks !!
I believe it can rival the Swiss watch manufacturer too!
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: adit_up on October 12, 2012, 02:07:05 PM
Seiko still the best. Compare for it's quality and price. Seiko is the best alternative for us  :thumbsup: has been a legend for the world of watch

There is Seiko and there is SEIKO….they are a 1st class vertically integrated manufacture with a 130 year history

You cannot of course compare a RM 200 Seiko to a RM 2,000 Swiss/German but for the same amount of money say RM 10,000, you'll be surprised at the quality that Seiko can produce…

Seiko has a wide range such as Seiko 5, Prospex, Brightz and Ananta even without mentioning the higher end Grand Seiko, Galante, Credor range…Seikos (which include Ananta) are priced from RM 200 to RM 20,000...
Credors on the other hand goes up to > USD 100,000


Suprising Seikooooooo.......

Yes, SEIKO Rocks !!
I believe it can rival the Swiss watch manufacturer too!
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: davelhw on October 19, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
Why no one interested in Maurice Lacroix????

 :o  :Confused:
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: Cocas on June 23, 2016, 07:41:37 AM
The surveys result are very interesting! Do we have the 2015 or 2016 surveys again this year?
Title: Re: Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results
Post by: adamjohari on June 25, 2016, 10:33:21 PM
Interesting. Not shocking to see Rolex and Pam at the top two.

My own personal ranking would have Lange at the top followed by Journe,  Patek and AP. Jaeger leCoultre after those. And the rest I don't really care about.

 ;D