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Title: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: hanz079 on February 07, 2012, 09:20:02 PM
Seems like the snowflake reissue is gaining momentum.
Leaked pics looked legit.
And yes, i will be in the market for one if it is priced right.
Cool red bezel and accents near the crown.
41mm case size...

Updated... this model is now called the Tudor Heritage Black Bay. 7th March 2012

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/750b00e6.jpg)
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: TheHobbit on February 07, 2012, 09:23:32 PM
Errr.....
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: hanz079 on February 07, 2012, 09:26:44 PM
Errr.....
Ermmm... U don't like it i see? Hahaha
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: dpkong on February 07, 2012, 09:30:04 PM
interesting contrast...

Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: TheHobbit on February 07, 2012, 09:47:43 PM
Let's see what is there not to like about the watch......

Gilt dial
Snowflake hands
No crown guard
Big crown
Tudor rose logo

A hodge podge of various Tudor Diver watch of old. I don't think so......
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: jefnando on February 08, 2012, 09:10:45 AM
not my cup of tea.....
i have this feeling that the red accent on the crown will get easily scratched off and make the watch look jaded really fast.
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: shamtv2555 on February 08, 2012, 12:21:44 PM
how old already the watch?
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: hanz079 on February 08, 2012, 04:29:34 PM
how old already the watch?
Erm... not yet released bro...

My view is that yes, this is like a mix and match of Tudor's old dive watches.
Let's see this from another perspective, one that is non purist.
The design seems kinda nice.
Don't see alot of red bezels around.
No crown guard... some might be ok, some not.
The red accents near the crown? Guess it's just a little touch to differentiate itself from other watches.
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: takashi78 on February 09, 2012, 08:01:01 AM
Red bezels are everywhere.
The part i am worried about is the crown side. How good is the water resistance.
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: JOS2012 on February 09, 2012, 08:08:40 AM
Why is this called Snowflake....sorry for the naive question...
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: jefnando on February 09, 2012, 12:16:19 PM
Why is this called Snowflake....sorry for the naive question...

The hour hand kua..... Why has rolex got anything to do with oyster?
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: G.MAC on February 09, 2012, 01:25:43 PM
have to see this watch in the flesh when it comes out. Is this the only variant? I am not really feeling that red colour. If it were black then ok.
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: shamtv2555 on February 20, 2012, 02:54:03 PM
http://www.deskdivers.com/Site/Snowflake.html

nice info
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: hanz079 on February 21, 2012, 04:49:13 PM
http://www.deskdivers.com/Site/Snowflake.html

nice info
Why look so far? Here oso got mah... Hehehe

http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,4982.0.html
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: gloomis on February 22, 2012, 08:53:02 AM
sharp bezel. ...nice
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: JPSP on February 22, 2012, 08:21:18 PM
not my cup of tea.....
i have this feeling that the red accent on the crown will get easily scratched off and make the watch look jaded really fast.
I've to agree with you.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: siodee on February 24, 2012, 06:36:35 AM
not my cup of tea.....
i have this feeling that the red accent on the crown will get easily scratched off and make the watch look jaded really fast.
I've to agree with you.  :Cheers:

Not my like too, the red bezel and hour hand turn me off, do they have other variant for the same design???
Title: Re: Tudor Snowflake + Big Crown
Post by: hanz079 on March 07, 2012, 05:14:01 PM
Tudor website updated.
The pic I posted is called the Tudor Heritage Black Bay.
The other snowflake is called the Tudor Pelagos.
42mm Titanium case that comes in both rubber and titanium bracelet.
Water resistant to 500m... helium escape valve, eta 2824.
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: hanz079 on March 13, 2012, 09:12:31 AM
Questions were asked why is the Bezel in Burgundy and not Black?
Tudor's answer is quite logical.

"Burgundy is to Tudor like Green is to Rolex"
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: genec on March 13, 2012, 11:53:25 AM
I think this is starting to grow on me, rather than the pelagos.
any idea how much its going to go for?
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: hanz079 on March 13, 2012, 12:20:51 PM
I think this is starting to grow on me, rather than the pelagos.
any idea how much its going to go for?
Lol... Same here bro. Word is usd3300 for leather strap model and a couple hundred more for bracelet model.
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: G.MAC on March 13, 2012, 07:04:49 PM
How is it that this variant is cheaper than the pelagos?
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: TheHobbit on March 13, 2012, 07:24:36 PM
How is it that this variant is cheaper than the pelagos?

No titanium, no valve?
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: G.MAC on March 13, 2012, 07:41:12 PM
Ah i see. Plus lesser water resist also.
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: HusH on March 13, 2012, 08:02:50 PM
Check out real life pics on Hodinkee:

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2012/3/12/in-depth-the-tudor-heritage-black-bay-reference-7922r-full-s.html (http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2012/3/12/in-depth-the-tudor-heritage-black-bay-reference-7922r-full-s.html)

(http://www.hodinkee.com/storage/thumbnails/2431710-17094667-thumbnail.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1331600690691)

Irresistable! Ooh boy... Tudor just sucked $$ from my bank account :P
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: chrisyen on March 14, 2012, 07:50:18 AM
Check out real life pics on Hodinkee:

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2012/3/12/in-depth-the-tudor-heritage-black-bay-reference-7922r-full-s.html (http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2012/3/12/in-depth-the-tudor-heritage-black-bay-reference-7922r-full-s.html)

(http://www.hodinkee.com/storage/thumbnails/2431710-17094667-thumbnail.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1331600690691)

Irresistable! Ooh boy... Tudor just sucked $$ from my bank account :P

Oh my... Beautiful
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: G.MAC on March 14, 2012, 08:55:34 AM
any ideas on the release date for this?? The red bezel in the flesh is really nice as compared to the promo ad. This just moved to the top of my to buy list.
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: jacky8888 on March 14, 2012, 08:57:10 AM
this is just gorgeous.... i wonder if the bracelet is the same as pelagos....
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: hanz079 on March 14, 2012, 09:39:15 AM
Word is dealers will get it at around May or June.
And the bracelet is different from Pelagos.
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: takashi78 on March 14, 2012, 11:51:01 AM
Lucky red is not my color.
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: Scuderianer0 on May 10, 2012, 11:31:58 AM
Anyone knows if the black bay is out yet ?
My bro is in hk, hopefully can find it there.
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: hanz079 on May 10, 2012, 11:55:27 AM
I dun think its out yet. Last i checked, pelagos is slated for june/july abd black bay is august/september. Or the other way around...
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: JayJay on May 10, 2012, 08:41:25 PM
Yes
I checked at KLCC AD, put up a booking, they said most likely end of the year
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: WilsonWS on May 11, 2012, 11:58:47 AM
This is a remake of a true vintage watch for all the vintage watch lovers. I have got my name on the waiting list already!

For those of you who are interested in the Tudor Heritage Black Bay.  You can use the following link to see the watch in HD. Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juxb5dCFUiw

Or search in Youtube:  "Basel 2012: Los modelos de Tudor "

Also shown in the video is the Pelagos Black Bay which was also introduced during SIHH 2012.  It is a pretty cool, young and nice looking watch too.
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: Godzillaz on May 12, 2012, 07:14:11 AM
No it is not.

The true vintage look like this
(http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w501/TdBean/tudor7922underline2.jpg)
The only similarities is the dial. The rest is different.

BTW the snowflakes hand comes some 15 years later in a total different model.

This is technically a new watch. I won't even consider it as a heritage model.

I don't see how it can call it a remake if it doesn't follow the original design. Maybe reinterpretation is a better word for this.

IMHO the Pelagos is a better watch than this. Great update of the original snowflake.  :thumbsup:

Regards
Tyler



This is a remake of a true vintage watch for all the vintage watch lovers. I have got my name on the waiting list already!

For those of you who are interested in the Tudor Heritage Black Bay.  You can use the following link to see the watch in HD. Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juxb5dCFUiw

Or search in Youtube:  "Basel 2012: Los modelos de Tudor "

Also shown in the video is the Pelagos Black Bay which was also introduced during SIHH 2012.  It is a pretty cool, young and nice looking watch too.
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: Enkidu on May 12, 2012, 10:25:43 PM
No it is not.

The true vintage look like this

The only similarities is the dial. The rest is different.

BTW the snowflakes hand comes some 15 years later in a total different model.

This is technically a new watch. I won't even consider it as a heritage model.

I don't see how it can call it a remake if it doesn't follow the original design. Maybe reinterpretation is a better word for this.

IMHO the Pelagos is a better watch than this. Great update of the original snowflake.  :thumbsup:

Regards
Tyler


Well, new watch, old watch, reinterpreted watch, remake etc etc...it doesn't really matter to me, because it's still a nice looking fellow for all I can see. I am not sure if the usual AD whom I patronise will take an order now because I am really keen to get this piece for christmas this year. Also glad to read that not everyone likes this piece, which means there will not be a big rush for this piece and hopefully  :Praying: :Praying: there may be lesser chance the ADs will mark up the price of this piece at some unreasonable premium!!!
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: hanz079 on May 13, 2012, 06:47:07 PM
@Enkidu

My thoughts exactly.
Since we like the watch, even better if not alot of ppl like it.
Might avoid paying premium and even better, can get at a decent discount.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: Everdying on May 13, 2012, 07:16:00 PM
i like the black bay, especially the burgundy bezel.
Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: vinorus on February 26, 2013, 08:08:59 AM
Seems like the snowflake reissue is gaining momentum.
Leaked pics looked legit.
And yes, i will be in the market for one if it is priced right.
Cool red bezel and accents near the crown.
41mm case size...

Black Bay is a nice looking watch by Tudor. It won the Best Design Watch 2012 in magazine.
The bracelet version is much better.

For me, the design is almost perfect. But I can't give it 10/10 because of:
1. The back is too flat compare to Tudor Pelagos and Rolex watches which give an impressive floating effect.
 Eventhough the lug and the side is thick, but because of the flatness make the whole watch only 1cm thick.
2. ETA2824 is too common.



Title: Re: Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Post by: Everdying on February 26, 2013, 08:42:52 AM
there is a well known post by Archer, who says the modified eta-2824 in the black bay is a step backwards.

Quote
The Tudor 2824-2's start as Top grade, so they have all the parts that the Chronometer grade movements do, without the actual testing being done. The shock system is then changed from Incabloc to Kif, and they remove the ETACHRON system, and implement a more traditional stud on the balance spring, and traditional regulator pins.

For me as a watchmaker who services these movements, removing the ETACHRON is not an advancement, but a step backwards. Adjusting the centering of the balance spring, the centering of the outer coil through the regulating pins, and setting the spacing of the regulating pins is so much easier with the ETACHRON system, it really makes no technical sense (in my opinion) to remove this system. There's no doubt that a watch can be adjusted just as well using the traditional systems, but is it far less time consuming with the ETACHRON system. I suspect the Rolex does this because they want to make it their own, and not for any technical reason.