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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: G.MAC on October 15, 2011, 08:35:44 PM
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After some thoughts, am deciding whether i should take a plunge but am not too confident with the idea. I really like the Audemars Piguet ROO Diver. Now the only way I can obtain one is by sacrificing a few watches in my collection including a grail which is the PAM90. Only thing with higher end watches like the AP, without a shadow of a doubt, the resale vaue is not too promising in Malaysia. At least with the Panerai, it is easier to flip. I know most our members always say that second hand value should not be thought of when we purchase a watch. Still cant help but worry on that point. Whats the consensus on Audemars Piguet as a whole? Is it a worthy upgrade for a PAM in your opinion? Thank you in advance for any feedbacks.
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My personal opinion is go for it!!! If you're talking about Diver vs PAM90, no doubt the AP diver win hands down! I'm also biased as my next grail will also be likely the AP diver.
I find the PAM90 dial unbalance and I do not like the cyclops and polished CG.
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AP Diver is really cool. The 15730ST version right...
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G.MAC,
If case you need help deciding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlluIP-4sL0&feature=player_embedded
Mods, remove if not appropriate.
I was in your shoes once, but have since done the necessary and 'culled' a few watches and got the Panerai that I want. I am again at a cross road as I was offered a PAM00232. To get that, I will have to sell the watches that I like as much as the Panerai. I am still out on this....
As for the AP ROO Diver, it is one of my favourite watches from AP (I only like 3, AP RO, AP RO Chrono and the ROO Diver). It is a beautiful watch, having seen it in the flesh. I cannot say if I will give up part of my Panerai watch to get the ROO Diver, so I cannot really say go for it. What I can say is, does it sings to you? More than the PAM00090?
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WOW.. nice video... love that watch !
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Both sings to me but can only afford one.
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See my sig...
Go for it~!!
Nuff Said... ;D
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tried it on. too large for me. and it sits very high. if it fits your wrist and you like it, then go for it.
if you have a PAM00072 you want to release, let me know... ;)
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i toyed with the AP ROOs and AP 15300 before diving into pams.
unless u have a pretty big wrist, APs are tough to wear since the case is pretty long and the new bracelets or hornbacks are tough on the sides and cannot curve as well (so does not look nice on small wrist). the XS rubber on the other hand allows wrist around 6.0~6.3" to wear them.
the diver looks nice, but if u r paying that much, why not go for a ROO ?
anyway APs generally have a good name as a manufacture and who doesn't know the ROO. but pls choose well, as only a few ROOs hold pretty good value. as the price even for 2nd hand is pretty high, generally it would be harder to sell it in malaysia should u not want it anymore. however, do look at our neighbours down south, ROOs sell well there. and hold pretty good value too. good luck with the hunt!
and guys, u cannot compare a RM76k ROO with a RM24700 PAM90. that's like asking to flip a kelisa to get a honda city. LOL
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wrist size is not a problem as i have a 8 3/4 inch wrist. It still looks smallish on my wrist. bro dsiewmy, you put the finger on the right problem which is the 'right' model and the second hand value. Any recommended models i should look at?
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In that case u shd go for ROO.. Try avoid rubber clad bezel.. I suggest ROO's Volcano, black dial and Panda. Just my 2 cents
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Why avoid rubber clad ? Any reason for it ? :) Planning to get an AP too
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It cost a bomb Once the rubber bezel disintegrate. If I not wrong the replacement cost for rubber bezel around 2k+ MYR.. You can buy alot of rubber with 2k+MYR
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wrist size is not a problem as i have a 8 3/4 inch wrist. It still looks smallish on my wrist. bro dsiewmy, you put the finger on the right problem which is the 'right' model and the second hand value. Any recommended models i should look at?
if u ask me, the only model worth looking at for ROO is the panda or maybe even black themes.
avoid the rubber bezel, navy, safari. look at the SG and US second hand price for a gauge u will understand.
at nearly 9" don't get the RO 15300, it will look small on ur wrist. just go for the ROO. hornbacks would look awesome on u.
look out for panda with SG-GP strap.
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For me, I will go for the AP Diver 15703 as it's cheaper than the ROO chrono, slightly smaller at 42mm, and cleaner dial. Btw, I still can't accept paying the price for the ROO with the piggyback chrono module.
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Thanks dennis for the clarification.
As i did quite sometime of price survey.. the AP chrono is slightly cheaper than the divers depend on years of manufacture and condition.. So AP chrono or divers for our TS here? :)
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IMHO, I dont think you should sacrifice PAM to get the AP, unless you are prepare to sacrifice the forest just to get the flower, but then if you have "flipping" in mind, mean you still not sure whether it is a flower you want or still prefer remain in the forest ;D
Just my 30 cents
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http://www.audemarspiguet.com/s/roo-diver/
Take a look!
P.S. Mod pls delete if inappropriate!
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I am ' pruning the branches to only what i can manage'. In one word, rightsizing the collection. For now have to wait as my dealer only have the Diver and rubberclad at the moment. Still heavily interested in the Diver. Contemplating what to put in to reduce the blow.
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Too bad ROO didn't sit well on my wrist... So mostly ll settle at RO
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Care to PM how much is your dealer offering you for the Diver?
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After some thoughts, am deciding whether i should take a plunge but am not too confident with the idea. I really like the Audemars Piguet ROO Diver. Now the only way I can obtain one is by sacrificing a few watches in my collection including a grail which is the PAM90. Only thing with higher end watches like the AP, without a shadow of a doubt, the resale vaue is not too promising in Malaysia. At least with the Panerai, it is easier to flip. I know most our members always say that second hand value should not be thought of when we purchase a watch. Still cant help but worry on that point. Whats the consensus on Audemars Piguet as a whole? Is it a worthy upgrade for a PAM in your opinion? Thank you in advance for any feedbacks.
Hello G.MAC
I am recommending you take 'the plunge' to the AP. If you do not have to sacrifice the PAM, better.
Resale value aside, the AP is a 'worthy upgrade' I think. Try it on next time with the PAM beside :-
1. A historical and somewhat iconic design.
2. Case finishing is finer and higher quality
3. Case construction is unique & one of a kind
4. High grade movement (try winding one manually - one of the smoothest around)
Since you have a wrist of over 8 inches, you must try the Offshore with the Diver together. The Offshore may look better on your wrist. I have a 7.5 inch wrist.
I am of course biased!
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b307/cd32815/19082011110.jpg)
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at the end of the day, every thread must have a conclusion. Here is the conclusion to this thread...took the plunge and nearly drowned on this:Laughing_on_floor:
(http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx236/gmac88/DSC01608.jpg)
Thanks for all the feedbacks.
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at the end of the day, every thread must have a conclusion. Here is the conclusion to this thread...took the plunge and nearly drowned on this:Laughing_on_floor:
(http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx236/gmac88/DSC01608.jpg)
Thanks for all the feedbacks.
G.MAC,
Congrats. I still think it is one of the best from AP. Wear it with good health.
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G.MAC,
what an awesome looking watch :thumbsup:
wonder when i can afford an AP??? dream dream dream :Laughing_on_floor:
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Nice catch bro :thumbsup:
Show us the movement shots.
Mind PM me the damage?
:Cheers:
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:Cheers:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: you made the right choice :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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bro ck77,
PM sent. Solid caseback so no movement shots to take.
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Wow :o, you finally pull the trigger...Congrat :Cheers:, write a review let us drooll ::)...can PM me the damage?
Wear for Good health :thumbsup:
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Yeah... I would like to know how much it costs as well.
Congratz bro... higher and higher you go... :thumbsup:
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:Cheers: i just love clean dial!
on ur way to hold the holy trinity?
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Congrats! What a beauty. Hopefully one day i can afford one
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In regards to the 'trinity', this is the only piece i can wear as my wrist size would impede any efforts of wearing the other 2 nicely. Not to mention the fact that if i really take the plunge again, this time memang i drown la :Laughing_on_floor: . Maybe in a few years time I would get another piece for the trinity :Praying:
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at the end of the day, every thread must have a conclusion. Here is the conclusion to this thread...took the plunge and nearly drowned on this:Laughing_on_floor:
(http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx236/gmac88/DSC01608.jpg)
Thanks for all the feedbacks.
Congrats bro..definitely the right choice! wear her in good health... :thumbsup:
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A big congrats! Even though it's solid caseback, but you know hidden inside is the the solid calibre 3120 with 22k gold sculpted rotor.
The diver is still on my wish list!
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Hi G.Mac,
I need to point something out as I noticed the internal rotating bezel marker on 35min and 45min was not aligned. Could it be the angle of the shot and not mis-alignment?
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Congrats bro, wear it in good health..
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I did not aligned the bezel having tested it out earlier. Sharp eye though. I never noticed it myself.
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Wrist shots!
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:Cheers:
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After some thoughts, am deciding whether i should take a plunge but am not too confident with the idea. I really like the Audemars Piguet ROO Diver. Now the only way I can obtain one is by sacrificing a few watches in my collection including a grail which is the PAM90. Only thing with higher end watches like the AP, without a shadow of a doubt, the resale vaue is not too promising in Malaysia. At least with the Panerai, it is easier to flip. I know most our members always say that second hand value should not be thought of when we purchase a watch. Still cant help but worry on that point. Whats the consensus on Audemars Piguet as a whole? Is it a worthy upgrade for a PAM in your opinion? Thank you in advance for any feedbacks.
Hi All,
I'm new here and just came across this post.
Ironically, i was in the same boat a couple of months ago with the exact same watch. In the end, i disposed of a few pieces in order to get hold of the Diver.
Its been a few months now and i think it was the best decision i've made on my watch collecting journey.
Just when i thought i'd be happy and content. Another temptation in the form of the Explorer II 42mm loomed. And again, i sold some "lesser" pieces to acquire.
Good to know i'm not alone on this path
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Hi Aerosmith, kindly do a simple introduction about yourself in member introductions page (http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/board,9.0.html)
Thank you and welcome to the forum!
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Hi Aerosmith, kindly do a simple introduction about yourself in member introductions page (http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/board,9.0.html)
Thank you and welcome to the forum!
Done. thanks for the reminder
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Hi Aerosmith, kindly do a simple introduction about yourself in member introductions page (http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/board,9.0.html)
Thank you and welcome to the forum!
Done. thanks for the reminder
You're welcome :thumbsup:
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go for the AP Diver. After you wear it on your hand, you will feel the different, different class already. Like BMW vs Lamboghini.
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IMHO , it is worth to upgrade panerai to AP brand . AP is high grade than panerai . AP diver is very nice ROO for entry level . I have some friends all gone from PAM and be the owner of AP .
Thanks
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at the end of the day, every thread must have a conclusion. Here is the conclusion to this thread...took the plunge and nearly drowned on this:Laughing_on_floor:
(http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx236/gmac88/DSC01608.jpg)
Thanks for all the feedbacks.
Congrats bro..definitely the right choice! wear her in good health... :thumbsup:
Beautiful ending! Gratz
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can you please pm me the damage? i would like to buy a ap as well.. tqvm..
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Congrats bro, it is an awesome looking watch. :thumbsup:
So did you let go your PAM90 or you somehow managed to squeeze enough to add just 1 more ;D