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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: davidtth on September 24, 2011, 09:15:36 PM
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Recently i just acquire a ML watch (is a present! :D ), but i hardly found anyone discuss in MWF
just wonder how many ppl like the watch? what do you think about the watch? and why is the watch not being discuss often in most of watch forum... ? :-\ :-\
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well, if you post some pics of it maybe you'll find out how many ppl will like/think about the watch :thumbsup:
cheers and welcome to the club!
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I am a fan of Maurice Lacroix watches.
In fact, my 1st serious piece of mechanical watch was a Maurice Lacroix Pontos Rectangulaire Chronograph.
It has gone to a good home and if you do a search, I have a review posted up.
And like Omnipotent said, post some pics and let the opinions roll...
Welcome bro... :Cheers:
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Recently i just acquire a ML watch (is a present! :D ), but i hardly found anyone discuss in MWF
just wonder how many ppl like the watch? what do you think about the watch? and why is the watch not being discuss often in most of watch forum... ? :-\ :-\
well, if you post some pics of it maybe you'll find out how many ppl will like/think about the watch :thumbsup:
cheers and welcome to the club!
Yes, pls post some for us to view & then comment.
Personally, I don't really bother about the brand. I choose what I like & enjoy the nice feeling of wearing something nice.
BTW, welcome to the forum. :Cheers:
Take care, Ciao! :thumbsup:
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ML is gd watch... Top quality!
Just that they r not really aiming US n Euro
so major watch forums mostly base in these 2 continent not discuss about ML simply bcoz ML is not popular there!
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I think Maurice Lacroix watches are well made
watches. Their designs are quite elegant
and aesthetically appealing. They do modifications
from the ETA ebauches that they acquire, that
at least earns them some respect as watchmakers
rather than just "out of the box" ETAs. I believe
that the Company has even produced its own
in-house movement already, now, respect grows
even further ;)
Overall, a really good, respectable watch brand
from an independent company :thumbsup:
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MLhv it's inhouse movement, the handwind chrono
now with memory...
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owned a few..let go one. In my opinion, it is a fine watch. Meticulously built, reliable movement, solid. ML less of a following mainly due to the fact it is a brand which focuses mainly on dress watches. Most forums I see are mainly on sport or diver watches. Maybe thats why it is less discussed on. Anyway, would like to see the ML that you get as a present.
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Yes, ML brand concentrates mostly on dress watch or for formal wear.
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will post some pix later, coz i have hard time to do close up shooting as my RF does not permit... :(
ya, its a lovely watch designed, classic yet modern look. love the detail and especially the master piece, which i just got it ! (as pix shown below)
(http://www.prestigetime.com/images/watches/mp6508-ss001-130_main.jpg)
*image sourced from net
Yes, ML brand concentrates mostly on dress watch or for formal wear.
yup, agreed, due to that reason... i might think of letting go this beloved watch, as i dun really into dress watch but more on casual/sport kind :(
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why not keep the watch and buy another one? To be honest, ML has a fairly low second hand value. The rough second hand value is 40% from the original retail price. That is a 60% total loss. So it is better to keep it then to sell it.
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why not keep the watch and buy another one? To be honest, ML has a fairly low second hand value. The rough second hand value is 40% from the original retail price. That is a 60% total loss. So it is better to keep it then to sell it.
i just felt too sayang to keep it instead letting go to someone who can really appreciate
just, too precious to wear it :-*
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Like Gmac mentioned, the resale value for ML is pretty low. IMHO its bcos the watch is priced to the luxury range, not in material value. Similar watches like Epos, Edox etc...being an ETA-evolved watch, the high prices of it does not commensurate the value it's trying to perceived. Not unless they come out with their own movement, that's another perception all over again.
And then again, there are folks who appreciates fine art, and would not mind what's the movement it encases.
Wear the watch, its valueless by just sitting in the box. Wear them and be seen in them. The admiration and sense of feel good are the "returns" of your investment or rather value of it.
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err.... ML made much modification on the ETA and finish it better than EPOS & EDOX....
i do not think they r in the same league....
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as far i know most of/all the Master Piece are in house movement
the watch that i have was the latest ML automatic movement with 57 jewels.... :D
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I hv a ML Pontos Chronograph with Valjoux 7750 movement. Its a very good watch,no complaints.IMHO ML is underappreciated-it is well designed ,has excellent build quality at a reasonable price point. I think what it lacks is a clear USP like Ball ( tritium tubes for night visibility , shock proof , etc ) or Tissot (entry level Swiss ).
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I hv a ML Pontos Chronograph with Valjoux 7750 movement. Its a very good watch,no complaints.IMHO ML is underappreciated-it is well designed ,has excellent build quality at a reasonable price point. I think what it lacks is a clear USP like Ball ( tritium tubes for night visibility , shock proof , etc ) or Tissot (entry level Swiss ).
ball is and ML is different market.... ball = RR watch, accuracy under extreme condition + readability... its a tough watch so tritium is the key selling point
while ML is mainly classic dress watch design.... tritium tube wont match their watch design....
none of the ML sport watch selling well....
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as far i know most of/all the Master Piece are in house movement
the watch that i have was the latest ML automatic movement with 57 jewels.... :D
what do u mean by in house? to me
(http://stevearun.com/watch-reviews/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Maurice-Lacroix-watches-7.jpg)
(http://professionalwatches.com/assets_c/2009/02/Maurice-Lacroix-Masterpiece-Chrono-Squelette-2-thumb-450x327-2209.jpg)
this is the so call full in house movement.... the handwind chrono
(http://www.alanfurman.com/images/mlmp6348_ss002_12e.jpg)
all the auto chrono still using eta7750 base... not even modification i guess.... but not sure what grade!
(http://watches.infoniac.com/uimg/maurice-lacroix-memoire-1-watch.jpg)
(http://watches.infoniac.com/uimg/maurice-lacroix-memoire-1-watch-movement.jpg)
this is the so far most complicated in house in ML, chrono with memory
(http://www.watchsource.eu/gallery/maurice-lacroix-masterpiece-calendrier-retrograde/maurice-lacroix-masterpiece-calendrier-retrograde.jpg)
(http://swipe.swipelife.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/maurice-lacroix-watch-2.jpg)
all these retrograde handwind ML watches is using eta unitas 6497/8 with add on retrograde module....
since 2 yrs ago it ML redesign the 3/4 plate instead of
(http://www.tnsdiamonds.com/Maurice/DSC_5552.jpg)
just polishing old unitas bridges, bigger jewel, perlage base plate, added regulator....
(http://www.2000watches.com/shop/image.php?image=maurice_lacroix/mp7048-ss001-000.jpg)
(http://www.gemnation.com/images/watches/Maur/MP7138-SS001-030.jpg)
these skeletons is still stand eta 6497-1 with skeleton done by others maybe?
(http://www.timezone.com/img/articles/news631989047392812500/MLMasterpieceCollection02.jpg)
(http://www.timezone.com/img/articles/news631989047392812500/MLMasterpieceCollection04.jpg)
this handwind ML last time used Peseux 7046, but after no longer in production, ML using eta 2801 instead....
but its much better finishing than the standard eta 2801, blued screws, gold chaton....
(http://www.gemnation.com/images/watches/Maur/MP6066-SD501-17E-BL.jpg)
(http://www.gemnation.com/images/watches/Maur/MP6148-SS001-120.jpg)
these r also eta with standard module.... many other watch brand using same movement...
(http://blog.perpetuelle.com/wp-content/uploads/maurice-lacroix-square-wheel.jpg)
this is latest creative module from ML....
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Wow... thanks to your photo, baru I tau Masterpiece Squelette is 6497 based...
I tot it was manufacture movement... :HammerHead:
The handwind chrono is pretty cool but I prefer the skeletonised version.
The Memoire 1 is breathtaking... a mechanical chronograph with memory function... and of course a 7 digit retail price.
The Roue Carree is also cool...
As for ML design... I guess last time they were not very impressive but currently, their designs have a certain modern look to it... and there's a little distinct look of ML...
Can't pinpoint exactly what but look at all the new collections at one go and there's some similarity...
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..the chrono with memory inhouse movement is artistically complicated..
I guess as sizes of watches have started to grow back to the era of pocket watches (45-50mm), it frees the designers and engineers with many possibility to create master pieces movements such as this.
I can just sit for hours just to admire the movements and figuring how it cogs with each others and the geniuses' brains behind them... wow...nice..
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I was 'poisoned' by my usual watch shop guy that ML watches have relatively superior and meticulous finishings compared to watches within it's price range...but since their name is still quite new to the market, other brands can command a better price because they're more established.
is that true? i'm very new to watches and trying to develop an eye for details...cheers
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ML is not a new brand. Other brands command a better price not because they are more established but because they are more prestigious or they use more precious metals either on the case or movement. As to the superior finishing, that is up to the individual to decide. They do look more refined in terms of styling.
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thanks! yea i guess it's up to individuals and what they look out for...
but i do like the elegant styling of the ML...too bad they dun have Flight series...(correct me if im wrong)
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no doubt ML do have alot of nice masterpiece but to me, it is abit over price. i would have getting something else with the same amount.
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this brand produce lot of nice piece, got quality but less market advertisement i think...
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I bought a ML wrist alarm way back in 2002. Price was about RM 5,500 at that time. :thumbsup: Wore it for a few months and kept in my safe. It's a good watch although the ringing of the mechanical alarm is not as "melodious" as the JLC (price was about RM 12,500 at that time).
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Newbie here. I'm currently planning to get a mechanical skeleton watch and i came across this Maurica Lacroix "MASTERPIECE SQUELETTE NEW DESIGN" that costs RM21,300.00 [mod : pls do not discuss discount]
Is this watch worth to buy?
Hope to hear some opinions from experienced watch enthusiasts. Appreciate any +ve or -ve comments.
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I would say nope. very likely you will regret not far into the future, especially after you learn more about watches from various forum.
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Newbie here. I'm currently planning to get a mechanical skeleton watch and i came across this Maurica Lacroix "MASTERPIECE SQUELETTE NEW DESIGN" that costs RM21,300.00 [mod : pls do not discuss discount]
Is this watch worth to buy?
Hope to hear some opinions from experienced watch enthusiasts. Appreciate any +ve or -ve comments.
I'll say why not? If the watch sings to u n causes sleepless nite, go fot it. Someone does mentioned 'if u buy a watch n thinking of resale value, its like getting married with divorce in ur mind ' (smth like that). Imho, if u cant afford the depreciation value, buy only rolex.
Btw, i got the ML MP7048 (older model of squellete) with handcrafted silver dial and its still look stunning after all the yrs. Esp when look under a scope. Sorry no pics as i dun know how shoot pics properly nor post pics in forum.
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IMO Maurice Lacroix makes the best skeletons in its range. Like what bro WHEELQ said, if the watch sings to you and causes sleepless nights, go for it.
Anyway, I believe bro el118 is talking about the keeping value instead of the resell value. Quite similar but different things. Make sure you wont regret the decision you make! :thumbsup:
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It not only about resale value. you would likely get tired of the watch pretty soon if you find out what you have is not perceived highly by others. (some may argue that watch to satisfy only oneself, one need not care for what others think. This may be true. but if that is the case, than he would not have asked a question on the forum).
buying expensive watch is for "status or perceived value" and "shiok sendiri". without the former, you would likely find that your "orgasm" may not last too long. ;)
Just my opinion anyway.
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what bro el118 said at the above is spot on. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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It not only about resale value. you would likely get tired of the watch pretty soon if you find out what you have is not perceived highly by others. (some may argue that watch to satisfy only oneself, one need not care for what others think. This may be true. but if that is the case, than he would not have asked a question on the forum).
buying expensive watch is for "status or perceived value" and "shiok sendiri". without the former, you would likely find that your "orgasm" may not last too long. ;)
Just my opinion anyway.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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buying expensive watch is for "status or perceived value" and "shiok sendiri". without the former, you would likely find that your "orgasm" may not last too long. ;)
Just my opinion anyway.
You know, Eric is definitely right. After getting his perpetual calendar, his orgasm was like....
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/FunnyPart-com-pee_zps352831f2.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/FunnyPart-com-pee_zps352831f2.jpg.html)
...and it is still continuing.
ML is a good watch. But if you are a WIS, enjoy exploring what different watch brands offer and like to visit the MWF and other popular watch fora, the brand does not stand a chance.
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buying expensive watch is for "status or perceived value" and "shiok sendiri". without the former, you would likely find that your "orgasm" may not last too long. ;)
Just my opinion anyway.
You know, Eric is definitely right. After getting his perpetual calendar, his orgasm was like....
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/FunnyPart-com-pee_zps352831f2.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/FunnyPart-com-pee_zps352831f2.jpg.html)
...and it is still continuing.
ML is a good watch. But if you are a WIS, enjoy exploring what different watch brands offer and like to visit the MWF and other popular watch fora, the brand does not stand a chance.
:Laughing_on_floor:
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buying expensive watch is for "status or perceived value" and "shiok sendiri". without the former, you would likely find that your "orgasm" may not last too long. ;)
Just my opinion anyway.
You know, Eric is definitely right. After getting his perpetual calendar, his orgasm was like....
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/FunnyPart-com-pee_zps352831f2.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/FunnyPart-com-pee_zps352831f2.jpg.html)
...and it is still continuing.
Hi bro, since when u start to disguise as me! now i know your "deep & powerful reserve" that remain under-utilised all thru the years :Laughing_on_floor:
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Got it. Thanks for the responses. Let me do more surveys then. I'm definitely interested in skeletonized movements......
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Definitely good advice to look around and check out more brands and models. You might find one that strikes you even harder. Half the fun is in the hunt.
But you might find the available range of skeleton watches much more limited and the price gaps very steep as you move up the luxury scale.
For a nice entry level, check out the Tissot T-Complications Squelette... there was a pic posted by bro hanz in a thread by bro chrisyen earlier.
Mid range would be the ML or the Opus.
Enjoy. Pls post a pic once you've caught the prey.. :Cheers:
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buying expensive watch is for "status or perceived value" and "shiok sendiri". without the former, you would likely find that your "orgasm" may not last too long. ;)
Just my opinion anyway.
You know, Eric is definitely right. After getting his perpetual calendar, his orgasm was like....
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/FunnyPart-com-pee_zps352831f2.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/FunnyPart-com-pee_zps352831f2.jpg.html)
...and it is still continuing.
ML is a good watch. But if you are a WIS, enjoy exploring what different watch brands offer and like to visit the MWF and other popular watch fora, the brand does not stand a chance.
Here comes his animal side :Laughing_on_floor: