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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: danny on February 19, 2009, 11:41:01 AM
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Hi Scott,
If you haven't bought the Archimede pilot watch yet you may want to check out this link. (http://tourbywatches.com/shop/page/3?sessid=FvBRuXGagbe4I3zbeyFu7orftKDDycaj4BYcWR0r4vGRgUdIA0biZd4iGJFt9vyh&shop_param=)
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tourby is a nice guy to deal with and very knowledgeable....
but his price not cheap
and his design for pilot watch is not nice to me... the small second kill the design....
u muct go for center second for beohbachtung!
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Wa..it's very IWC look-alike..
i prefer the center sweep-second but the '9' oclock second looks OK..
not cheap really and the swanneck movement sold out already...
Thanks for letting me know :)
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u muct go for center second for beohbachtung!
Yenfoolun,
What is beohbachtung? ???
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This is what i really wanted....but it's way toooooooooooo $$$
http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=4284713&rid=51908#msg_4284713
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u muct go for center second for beohbachtung!
Yenfoolun,
What is beohbachtung? ???
The Beobachtungs-Uhren ("B-Uhr", observers watch) were made for the WWII Luftwaffe. These large watches contained high-quality pocket-watch movements for use in aircraft navigation. They were attached to the arm with long leather straps that fit around the outside of the flying clothing.
There were five manufacturers: A. Lange & Söhne, IWC, Laco, Stowa, and Wempe. Features that the watches have in common:
* Cases 55 mm in diameter, marked "FL 23883"
* Large crowns for use with gloves
* Indirect center seconds
* Stop ("hack") seconds
* Breguet balance springs
* No shock protection
1. A. Lange & Söhne (Glashütte)
Movement: Cal. 48/1
(http://www.qahill.com/tz/b-uhr/lange.jpg)
(http://www.qahill.com/tz/b-uhr/lange-mvmt-big.jpg)
The movement has a large (20 mm) balance and 17 jewels set in chatons, and often uses a swan-neck regulator. Because of the size of the order, the watches were assembled by a number of firms, including Huber (Munich), Felsing (Berlin), Schieron (Stuttgart), Suchätzle und Tschudin (Pforzheim), and Wempe (Hamburg).
2. IWC (Schaffhausen)
Movement: Cal. 52 SC
(http://www.watches.de/media.php/nowatermark/452_image1_detail.jpg)
(http://www.qahill.com/tz/b-uhr/iwc-mvmt.jpg)
A total of 1200 cal. 52 SC (offically "52T-19''' H6 S.C.") movements were made, and around 1000 went into the B-Uhr made by IWC. The cal. 52 SC was 43.15 mm (19 lignes) x 6.0 mm, 16 jewels, and 18,000 bph. The movement bore a swan-neck regulator and were adjusted in 6 positions and tested at the Gesundbrunnen observatory in Glashütte. The 55 x 16.5 mm cases were numbered 1033201 to 1034200 and had an additional anti-magnetic inner case.
3. aco (Lacher & Co., Pforzheim)
Movement: Durowe cal. D5
(http://www.qahill.com/tz/b-uhr/laco.jpg)
(http://www.qahill.com/tz/b-uhr/laco-mvmt.jpg)
Durowe (Deutsche Uhren-Rohwerk) was part of Laco. The 22-ligne, 22-jewel movement has a very large (22 mm) balance and a simple regulator.
4. Stowa (Walter Storz, Pforzheim)
Movement: Unitas (Tramelan) cal. 2812
(http://www.qahill.com/tz/b-uhr/stowa.jpg)
(http://www.qahill.com/tz/b-uhr/stowa-mvmt.jpg)
The 18-ligne, 20-jewel movement has a swan-neck regulator and is nickel-plated with Geneva stripes.
5.Wempe (Hamburg)
Movement: Thommen (Waldenburg) cal. 31
(http://www.qahill.com/tz/b-uhr/wempe.jpg)
(http://www.qahill.com/tz/b-uhr/wempe-mvmt.jpg)
The movement has a snail-cam fine regulator.
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This is what i really wanted....but it's way toooooooooooo $$$
http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=4284713&rid=51908#msg_4284713
Is there an extra zero in the asking price? :o
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Yenfoolun,
Wow.Very informative reply. Thanks for enlightening me. :)
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Thanks you, gam-jia..learn a lot..now i think i should go for one of this (a cheaper version) :D
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if want best quality inside out then get the go senator navigator or wempe le
or want original design no logo good lume then get the stowa
if 40mm stowa is too small then get laco 42mm
of u do not like laco because of no blued hand
then get steinhart/debaufre or archimede pilot h
or last persuade me to sell my archimede pilot original....
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if want best quality inside out then get the go senator navigator or wempe le
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Hi... I am curious what makes GO Senator Navigator special compared to other similar watches of different brands?
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Hi... I am curious what makes GO Senator Navigator special compared to other similar watches of different brands?
case - top class german technology...
crown - top class in finishing. it is bigger than normal go... but i still prefer diamond crown personally
dial - the index is well applied, good luminous.....
hands - top class blued hand with great luminous
packaging - like other go... big nice box with loupe
and most important of all....
the in house cal. 100.... well design, nice looking eventhough is not best finish.... but it look good!
u cant compare eta 2824 / 6497 withgo cal 100 right? different class...
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I fully agree with Yenfoolun on his assessment of the Senator Navigator and the GO Caliber 100.
Click here for a detailed review on the Sen Navigator by Watchtime magazine. (http://www.watchtime.com/archive/wt_2007_05/WT_2007_05_152.pdf)