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Title: new damasko - DC86
Post by: chrisyen on August 16, 2011, 08:47:57 PM
(http://www.watchtime.net/magazine-de/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Damasko_DC86.jpg)

Do you like it?

with modified 7753 movement, tri compass, 60min centre counter like lemania 5100 30min

the green chrono hands looks striking
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: chrisyen on August 16, 2011, 08:50:44 PM
it come with many colors likely

(http://img818.imageshack.us/i/damaskodc86stillkopie1.jpg/)
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: ck77 on August 16, 2011, 08:56:46 PM
I like orange  :thumbsup:
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s246/ongck77/289092_241641389209809_228728003834481_719927_3247311_o.jpg)
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: sshark on August 16, 2011, 09:13:07 PM
Manual movement?
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: takashi78 on August 16, 2011, 10:09:10 PM
Both long green hands is also the chrono hands?
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: hanz079 on August 17, 2011, 04:51:18 AM
Wow!! Love it!! There might be a DC87 with a lume dial I suspect...
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: terrenceterrence on August 17, 2011, 04:58:34 AM
second and minute counter ...unlike a normal 7750 which has subdials of minute, hour and half hour plus a chrono second hand,

this 7753 ..or lemania movement have subdials of 24 hour, second and hour plus chrono seconds and minute hands. thus easier to read elapsed minutes.

that is also why "special forces" watch like Tutima Commando have only chrono minutes and seconds hand and no subdials because "missions" are only over in minutes and legibility at a glance is easier reading from the dial and not smaller subdials
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: hanz079 on August 17, 2011, 07:09:15 AM
I have been searching at it seems like this model will incorporate Damasko's Si Silicon hairspring and Damasko's Patented DLC Escapement.... no lubrication!!
And I am guessing the price to be on the high side as the normal DC66/67 Si already cost more than 12k...

Borrowed pics from Damasko.

Silicon Hairspring. Anyone seen those 4 round apparatus used for the fine adjustment? Is that new? Haven't seen those before  ???
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/DamaskoSiHairspring.jpg)

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/DamaskoEscapement.jpg)
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: chrisyen on August 17, 2011, 08:04:24 AM
7750/7753 is auto movement...
the color hands are for chronograph - center second, center minute counter, hour counter at 6

lets wait for the update...
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: roboshar on August 17, 2011, 04:18:37 PM
I dunno..I think I like the old design better..anyways..I'm still eyeing for a black da36..the price is good now at an online store but currently out of stock...and I was told that the price will go up when the new batch comes in.. :HammerHead:
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: ck77 on August 17, 2011, 07:09:43 PM
I dunno..I think I like the old design better..anyways..I'm still eyeing for a black da36..the price is good now at an online store but currently out of stock...and I was told that the price will go up when the new batch comes in.. :HammerHead:
that's one going for sales in mwf
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: Gigi on August 17, 2011, 07:17:00 PM
LOL, isnt is Sinn also wanted to do something like this? But nothing happend in the end other than taking a 2824 and put DD module to simulate lemania 5100 movemen?

Nice one  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: like it alot just that dont like the fact it is a 7750 family based movement.  :Mad:
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: Peiseh on August 17, 2011, 07:30:06 PM
Beautiful watch. Damasko is good at integrating high fluorescent color for the arms... high contrast. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: takashi78 on August 17, 2011, 07:32:01 PM
Nothing wrong with 7750 based movement.
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: sshark on August 17, 2011, 08:56:46 PM
When u have Lemania 5100 u tend not to like 7750 which is a "wrong" attitude. There is nothing wrong with 7750... it just so easily available and u wanna something different. This is my opinion, not anybody else. but u may concur with me :)
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: chrisyen on August 17, 2011, 10:16:39 PM
seiko auto chrono better then....  :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: roboshar on August 18, 2011, 03:51:17 AM
roboshar, please check this out, Damasko DA46 Black for sales:
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,3511.0.html

Yup..saw that one..but I'm more interested in the da36...I would prefer a watch without bezel this time..btw..there is a da37 black in stock....what do you guys think of a full lume dial?
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: jacky8888 on August 18, 2011, 11:01:16 AM
i would prefer the lume dial.....
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: Gigi on August 18, 2011, 04:28:49 PM
Nothing wrong with 7750 based movement.
Nothing wrong with 7750 based movement.
Ya loh, .............. sifu Gigi, please kindly elaborate your point, thank you.
When u have Lemania 5100 u tend not to like 7750 which is a "wrong" attitude. There is nothing wrong with 7750... it just so easily available and u wanna something different. This is my opinion, not anybody else. but u may concur with me :)


Well the 7750 maybe more plentiful and common than 5100 but comparing both of them I would still prefer toward 5100 movement (I had both 5100 and 7750 powered watch) why?

-The  central min counter is obviously one of the reason due to the fact it is wayyyy easier to read than the 30min subdial of 7750.

-The chrono counter on 5100 (both on my tutima and mk 4.5) does not suffer from what they called "chrono creep" where the counter was at 1 hour mark but the hr subidial was pointing somewhere at between 1st and 2nd hour. Even lolmega moonwatch/flightmaster movement also suffer from this as myself witness it. It is annoying to get the proper reading if the chrono needle stray of. I do not know if Seiko chrono does suffer from this?

-Another thing is it can handle 7g and still work. Well the things i did will not reach 2g but I would not hesitate to wear it on my wrist during  footie or badminton game than other mechanical watch.

Well 5100 also got its problem too like crap power reserve compared to 7750 and also since it is discon part are also getting rarer (the serv for sinn and tuti here still got the part for it tho). They also had plastic self lubricating part in the movement which will crack if I drop the watch hard on the floor.

Nevertheless I would still go for 5100 instead of 7750 even if 5100 still in production today.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

seiko auto chrono better then....  :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:

Lol, i would go for it for sure. Waiting right time to buy flightmaster  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: sshark on August 19, 2011, 06:04:20 PM
yea thanks.. and thanks for highlighting the central minute counter
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: Scott C. on August 19, 2011, 08:41:36 PM
don't like the green and orange color :(

but like how its display the minute counter like 5100 ;)
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: Gigi on August 20, 2011, 03:28:27 PM
yea thanks.. and thanks for highlighting the central minute counter

Isn't that you owned two 5100 based watches? You should have notice that unless you do not use chrono often or never at all  :o
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: sshark on August 20, 2011, 03:49:31 PM
i do. i just forgotten. old man :)

that's the very reason i prefer 5100 over others with small 30mins sub dial.
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: ck77 on September 16, 2011, 06:26:29 PM
More info of the movement from Damasko:

Timing the Minute from the center

The manufacture Damasko plans the chronographs Damasko DC 86 launch. The mentionable: the minutes timing by a hand from the center.
It seemed to be finished with the productions stop of the caliber Lemania 5100. Damasko continues this idea. A chronograph timing its minutes by a big hand from the center of the dial. There is no more clearness: precise and at a first glance to realize the chronographs minutes with the Damasko DC 86 for all possible 60 minutes and not only 30 minutes as it is usual for the most other chronographs.
The hands and dials coloring help the good reading of the displayed time: green or orange colored indications inform the user of the watch immediately about the stopping time.
The casing is made from ice-hardened, nickel-free stainless steel and entirely developed and produced by Damasko in house. It resists the hardest demands with its Damest coating. Further materials like an ultra-hard titanium alloy are in planning.
The caliber Valjoux 7750 is the basic movement. Damasko manufactured and modificated it in some parts. Damasko supplies the DC 86 with the “Si-Technic”, state of the art for precise watches, in addition to the prevailing modifications.

This matter includes not only the use of an escapement without an adjuster and free oscillating balance wheel. But also the use of a reinforced barrel and the “Damasko”-Rotor with a 4-point micro ball bearing. The EPS®-spring in combination with the balance wheel with riveted weights make the precise running of the watch sure. Damasko is well known for all these technical details with the watch connoisseurs.
All these components have been developed in house. They show Damasko Uhrenmanufakturs technical competence and innovation.
Only 5 months developmental period and Damasko presented the first prototypes during a visit of the EADS-Testcenter. The launch of the DC 86 is scheduled for the first half-year 2012.
As a German manufacture for premium mechanical watches Damasko employs 30 members of staff. Damasko delivers its timekeepers to ambitious customers worldwide. More than 100 patent-, petty patents, pattern registrations and design patents in combination with an in-plant production of more than 90 % brings Damasko to the top of Germans leading, technological manufactures.
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: Gigi on September 16, 2011, 07:14:50 PM
i am curious if sinn also had the same stuff but minus the damasko only item like eps bearing and si spring ???
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: hanz079 on September 21, 2011, 07:09:38 PM
Woah... brother from another mother?

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/2011-09-11_EZM10_DC86.jpg)
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/ezm10top.jpg)

Sinn EZM 10 vs Damasko DC86??
Too similar?
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: takashi78 on September 21, 2011, 08:29:02 PM
Not surprising since the use the same movt.
Layout would be very similar if not exact the same.
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: Watchnewby on September 22, 2011, 07:10:47 AM
That too as both Sinn & Damasko was collaborating in terms of sharing technological advancement earlier before both of them goes each separate ways.
So it is no surprise if both companies has similar models in the market.
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: hanz079 on September 22, 2011, 07:36:50 AM
Yeah, Conrad Damasko used to supply cases to Sinn and they share a great partnership together.
Now, the partnership has ended and both companies have gone their own way.
But this 2 watches really share an uncanny resemblance.
The Dial, Hands, Movement, Color.
And judging by the sneak peaks... Damasko announced theirs first... it feels to me like Sinn is trying to pull a quick one...  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: chrisyen on September 22, 2011, 11:29:01 AM
Yeah, Conrad Damasko used to supply cases to Sinn and they share a great partnership together.
Now, the partnership has ended and both companies have gone their own way.
But this 2 watches really share an uncanny resemblance.
The Dial, Hands, Movement, Color.
And judging by the sneak peaks... Damasko announced theirs first... it feels to me like Sinn is trying to pull a quick one...  :thumbsdown:

used to??? thought just supplied a batch for the sinn 756?
its similar with case as damasko dc56 / dc 57
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: hanz079 on September 22, 2011, 12:17:08 PM
Yeah... Used to. Or are they still supplying cases to Sinn?
Sorry if i got it wrong.
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: chrisyen on September 22, 2011, 12:34:58 PM
what i mean is Damasko only supplied 1 batch of case to Sinn....

maybe i'm wrong also
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: hanz079 on September 22, 2011, 01:14:36 PM
what i mean is Damasko only supplied 1 batch of case to Sinn....

maybe i'm wrong also
Oh, thanks for the clarification.
I thought it was a long term supply contract and then ended.
Now that you mentioned it, the cases for DC56/57 and Sinn 756 look awfully similar.
So when Damasko supplied the cases for 756, are they Ice-hardened or did Sinn take the cases and Tegiment them?
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: chrisyen on September 22, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
what i mean is Damasko only supplied 1 batch of case to Sinn....

maybe i'm wrong also
Oh, thanks for the clarification.
I thought it was a long term supply contract and then ended.
Now that you mentioned it, the cases for DC56/57 and Sinn 756 look awfully similar.
So when Damasko supplied the cases for 756, are they Ice-hardened or did Sinn take the cases and Tegiment them?

that batch by damasko is ice hardened...
the engraving at case back also like damasko
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: hanz079 on September 22, 2011, 02:11:00 PM
Wow, then whoever got the damasko cased ones are d lucky ones...
Tegiment is nothing to shout about based on my experience with them.
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: rockmy on January 19, 2012, 11:27:17 PM
Hi,

Can anyone share which AD/boutique sells Damasko in Klang valley?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: chrisyen on January 20, 2012, 07:19:24 AM
Hi,

Can anyone share which AD/boutique sells Damasko in Klang valley?

Thanks in advance.

go 1 mont kiara
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: JOS2012 on February 11, 2012, 06:58:23 PM
comments deleted…… refer to my other post on New Damasko Watches….

I have been searching at it seems like this model will incorporate Damasko's Si Silicon hairspring and Damasko's Patented DLC Escapement.... no lubrication!!
And I am guessing the price to be on the high side as the normal DC66/67 Si already cost more than 12k...

Borrowed pics from Damasko.

Silicon Hairspring. Anyone seen those 4 round apparatus used for the fine adjustment? Is that new? Haven't seen those before  ???
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/DamaskoSiHairspring.jpg)

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/DamaskoEscapement.jpg)
Title: Re: new damasko - DC86
Post by: JOS2012 on February 16, 2012, 08:13:02 PM
DC86 also comes with the silicon balance wheel,spring,escape-wheel.
Any idea of the approx. price ?
This model was announced in Damasko USA as far back as Oct 2011.