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Main Forums => Watch Reviews => Topic started by: David_cheong on June 15, 2011, 09:29:25 PM
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Wei wei…I wrote this during my spare time
I was skeptical when I first take this baby home. It was a huge piece of 904L stainless steel.
My fear begin to subside when I put it on my wrist, it just sat nicely on my wrist and comfort too.
This baby is the Pre-owned Milgauss non GV, black dial./ 116400, circa 2009. My dealer has offered to me at a very attractive price.. The watch comes with complete set, leather card holder / card & boxes, etc.
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/David_cheong_album/DSCF2375.jpg)
The watch was massive at 157grams, where as the SD weights only at 147 grams.
The Milgauss has a 40 mm. case with polished lugs and bezel. Even the middle section of the bracelet is polished. The case is quite thick and has downward slopping lugs which make the watch sit very comfortably on my wrist.
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/David_cheong_album/DSCF2376.jpg)
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/David_cheong_album/DSCF2377.jpg)This is an exact opposite to the SD which seems higher in height and keeps flipping to one side of my wrist.
Source copied from the internet website; “__”
“The name Milgauss is derived from the French "mille" - which means 1,000 -and "Gauss", referring to the German mathematician and physicist Carl Friedrich Gauss who did research into magnetic fields. Another measure for the influence of magnetism is ampere per meter (A/m). According to the DIN norm 8309, a watch is considered anti-magnetic if it can work normally in a magnetic field of 4,800 A/m. Now, 4,800 A/m equals ca. 60 gauss. A normal anti-magnetic watch can only cope with 6% of the magnetic field that the Milgauss can handle. Yet another measure is Tesla (T). 1,000 Gauss equals 0.1 Tesla.”
The case
This current Milgauss sports a Faraday cage. There is an outer and a second inner case back. The outer caseback is engraved Milgauss (x 2) and also sports 4 Rolex coronets. The Milgauss is the first men's watch after the Sea-Dweller to sport a factory case back with engraving. The inner case back is laser etched with a "B" which is the symbol for magnetic flux density.
Upon removing this inner case back with the same tool, you only get to see the movement.
Build like a layered Titanic, the only thing I don’t need is to have an iceberg lying around when using and wearing it.
Crown
The Milgauss’s TwinLock crown is actually a little larger than the standard TwinLock (Explorer 1 & 2 and most Datejust but smaller than submariner) which makes it easier to operate, grip & wind smoothly. The diameter of TwinLock crown of the Milgauss is 7mm.
Dial
The normal black faced Milgauss has orange squares at the end of the markers and has no date feature. A date aperture would mean an opening into the movement that would compromise the antimagnetic characteristics of the Milgauss. The hour and minute hands are standard Datejust style with a bright orange lighting bolt second hand.
Crystal
The Milgauss GV do not sport the laser etched coronet at 6 in the crystal. One report said that the laser etched coronet would be too obvious due to the green edged crystal. Other report state that the laser etched coronet would simply be distorted due to the green crystal. Did not know which one is correct.
The other two normal Milgauss models (both black & white dial without the GV) both sport the laser etched coronet: Yup, I saw the laser etched coronet (with a loop) on my Milgauss @ 6 o’ clock position.
Movement
The Milgauss has the movement, the Cal. 3131. This is an upgrade from the Cal. 3130, sporting the in-house developed anti-magnetic Parachrom Blu hairspring plus an escapement which is made of an anti-magnetic alloy. The Faraday case seems redundant due to the Parachrom Blu hairspring and special escapement, this is one of Rolex over-engineering.
With this kind of a protection, I should have no issue running my hand through the car boot – where usually the big magnetic cone of both speakers lies.
Accuracy
After a couple of day’s observation, my Milgauss is spot on, gaining 2 seconds a day
Bracelet
The Milgauss watch come with the Oyster bracelet (ref. 72400?) which is not shared with other Rolex watches. It could due to the curvature between the lugs and the thick case that the Milgauss, thus giving the comfy wear
The clasp sports a hidden Easy Link where you can do minor adjustment to suit the days climate. The bracelet has solid and polished centre links which match and in uniform to that of the watch.
Overall, I am satisfied with my Milgauss as compared to my former SD, after all I don’t do deep diving every other day. The anti-magnetic is a plus for daily use although I don’t get to organize my car’s boot on many occasions. And nowadays, the car speakers are being fitted onto the side panel of each door, no more to the rear top panel of the rear boot.
I am having this Milgauss for the past week for now and hopefully, this one is a keeper
Note; The pictures attached do not do justice to the larger than life Milgauss on my wrist
Hope you do enjoy reading my reviews.
dc
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wah... u r back to rolex business seems...
this is lovely... whats the damage?
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Hi David,
Noticed that you were wearing this piece yesterday evening. It looked great on your wrist. :thumbsup:
Congratulations! And great review.
:Cheers:
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congrat on your new toy. Mind to pm me the damage?
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Hi David, nicely done :thumbsup:, enjoy reading the review, and I like this "Build like a layered Titanic, the only thing I don’t need is to have an iceberg lying around when using and wearing it". Dont worry, the watch won't sink :Laughing_on_floor:
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Hi David,
Noticed that you were wearing this piece yesterday evening. It looked great on your wrist. :thumbsup:
Congratulations! And great review.
:Cheers:
oh, so he's david...hehe...ok, registered liao...still need time to remember all the names from yesterday...it was great meeting all of you :)
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sui and leng!
mind pm me how much ?
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sui and leng!
mind pm me how much ? preowned right?
yeah david, pm me too thanks!
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Congrats on the new piece. some how i always prefer this one over the GV one. :thumbsup:
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Congrats on the new piece. some how i always prefer this one over the GV one. :thumbsup:
i preferrred the white dial...was even offered a huge discount but did not look good on my wrist :-[
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please pm me too :)
Also shop so I can go and see next time...i am assuming usj?
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David,
a proper anti mag watch should not have any opening eg date to prevent any leakage of magnet into the movement. i actually trust wat lolex say as i know they don bullsheet on watever they claim. I will not hasitat to test the claim.
Do you try the anti mag on your former sin 656 which have opening for date.
To be honest, i would prefer the watch to have bezel at least like the original one so tat i can make use of the watch to time watever i wan.
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Thanks to Danny and members for your kind words. PM sent to interested members
Abel.
No, I did not give it a real test on my former 656 - as there is a window aperture on the dial.
As you have said; a real anti-magnetic watch should not have any opening.
Also, I did not test my milgauss on the magneto displayed at the IWC boutique..(last night).where Scott did asked me to try on......NO, I did not comply. sorry......paranoid and sayang the watch la :thumbsup:
dc
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Thanks to Danny and members for your kind words. PM sent to interested members
Abel.
No, I did not give it a real test on my former 656 - as there is a window aperture on the dial.
As you have said; a real anti-magnetic watch should not have any opening.
Also, I did not test my milgauss on the magneto displayed at the IWC boutique..(last night).where Scott did asked me to try on......NO, I did not comply. sorry......paranoid and sayang the watch la :thumbsup:
dc
i am sure nothing will happen. I put my money on that la. :thumbsup:
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Thanks to Danny and members for your kind words. PM sent to interested members
Abel.
No, I did not give it a real test on my former 656 - as there is a window aperture on the dial.
As you have said; a real anti-magnetic watch should not have any opening.
Also, I did not test my milgauss on the magneto displayed at the IWC boutique..(last night).where Scott did asked me to try on......NO, I did not comply. sorry......paranoid and sayang the watch la :thumbsup:
dc
LOL..i thought should try to make sure it live up to it's name :thumbsup: anywhere, it's always there in the boutique when you change your mind can go try again :D
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David,
a proper anti mag watch should not have any opening eg date to prevent any leakage of magnet into the movement. i actually trust wat lolex say as i know they don bullsheet on watever they claim. I will not hasitat to test the claim.
Hi Abel,
I believe that the IWC Ingenieur (Ref.IW322701) has the same antimagnetic resistance rating as the Rolex Milgauss (80,000A/M) and yet it has a nice date window.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2662/5838678890_d533b5a73a_o.jpg)
IWC also lays claim to the watch with the highest antimagnetic rating of 500,000A/M equivalent to 6,283 Gauss and guess what? There's a nice date window on the dial:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/5838116907_c55c355190_o.jpg)
So it is possible to design an antimagnetic watch with a date window without necessarily compromising the watch's antimagnetic shielding.
:Cheers:
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Danny
i would like to know how they manage to pull tat off. In theory, the date window is connected to some part of the watch movement and hence suspect to mag leakage.
If you go see ball hydrocarbon series watch they list their watch as anti mag to 12k a/m. I am curious why the am rating is odd compared to other brand? I remember heard the ball tech guy (remember the ball party) told me the anti mag capability will decrease when there opening. I guess ball is being honest with the rating???
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Danny
i would like to know how they manage to pull tat off. In theory, the date window is connected to some part of the watch movement and hence suspect to mag leakage.
If you go see ball hydrocarbon series watch they list their watch as anti mag to 12k a/m. I am curious why the am rating is odd compared to other brand? I remember heard the ball tech guy (remember the ball party) told me the anti mag capability will decrease when there opening. I guess ball is being honest with the rating???
We tested the ball watch yesterday on the anti-magnet test device at IWC, and the watch has 2 date windows, make it even worse, but luckily still function
(http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k507/siodee/11.jpg)
If he had read this review before the event, he would have think twice :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
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i would like to know how they manage to pull tat off. In theory, the date window is connected to some part of the watch movement and hence suspect to mag leakage.
I guess that's IWC's trade secret. I doubt a reputable company like IWC will make inaccurate claims pertaining to their watch specs.
:Cheers:
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I read somehere in the web; that there is another layer of soft iron fitted in between the dial and the movement. Or that the dial is made of some alloy just like the faraday cage...............
dc
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I read somehere in the web; that there is another layer of soft iron fitted in between the dial and the movement. Or that the dial is made of some alloy just like the faraday cage...............
dc
that make me wonder how they cover the part of the watch where date components tat move during the date change.
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Congrats DC! :thumbsup: What's the price? (I'm ok with PM)
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Congrats and nice watch. Wear it with good health.
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Thanks Manburg and TheHobbit
dc
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Great review DC.
Surprised that you actually got this model and black dial. I would have thought you would went with white.
Still a great recent model Rolex you got there!
Next time we yam cha gotta play around with it more.
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beautiful watch bro, loving the non GVs more and more everyday.
congrats on your new watch and may it bring tons and tons of joy and everything nice. it maybe antimagnetic but i hope in your case it'll be a chick magnet :laugh:
had a chance to play with my colleague's and it;s one pretty watch :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/terrenceterrenceterrence/a9ed45a7.jpg)
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/terrenceterrenceterrence/5244ed7c.jpg)
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/terrenceterrenceterrence/dd18a9f5.jpg)
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/terrenceterrenceterrence/fb887b02.jpg)
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Poison poison :thumbsup:
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TerrenceTerrence - nice pic
I see, your friend's milgauss is a GV and there are digits marker just behind the sticker, mine is just square marker.
I have a choice to choose between the Milgauss and the Sub ND at my dealer (Almost new). Give or take rm1k different.
But finally I opt for the Milgauss, hopefully a good choice.
This one is no chick magnet. My home minister, who is a strong magnetic repeller is watching closely.
dc
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i would like to know how they manage to pull tat off. In theory, the date window is connected to some part of the watch movement and hence suspect to mag leakage.
I guess that's IWC's trade secret. I doubt a reputable company like IWC will make inaccurate claims pertaining to their watch specs.
:Cheers:
there is a magnet in iwc boutique for u to test
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I read somehere in the web; that there is another layer of soft iron fitted in between the dial and the movement. Or that the dial is made of some alloy just like the faraday cage...............
dc
the dial base metal is soft iron if not mistaken
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nice review..now i knowwhat the minimun standard requirement for anti-mag...thanks for sharing...
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Uhhh... caught the Rolex bug...
I guess the milgauss is the only model that looks cheeky enough (the lightning hands) for me... ;D
Need to differentiate myself frm my apek bosses wearing gold and diamond rolexes...
Can PM me the damage... aiming one for myself here... :laugh:
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PM sent
dc
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Uhhh... caught the Rolex bug...
I guess the milgauss is the only model that looks cheeky enough (the lightning hands) for me... ;D
Need to differentiate myself frm my apek bosses wearing gold and diamond rolexes...
Can PM me the damage... aiming one for myself here... :laugh:
Caught it and sulking that the price increase just before I am coming back :Mad:
Will be visiting shop by dc hopefully in my short stay and hope they have the one I am looking for. ::)
My bro just told me that the 39mm explorer is more expensive then the Sub ND and just shy by a few k on the Sub c
I will be in another city next week where there is an AD here at where I am based and I shall have a look and see what the prices are like :thumbsup:
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Nice watch! Can pm me on the price of your watch as well as where did you buy it?
Wei wei…I wrote this during my spare time
I was skeptical when I first take this baby home. It was a huge piece of 904L stainless steel.
My fear begin to subside when I put it on my wrist, it just sat nicely on my wrist and comfort too.
This baby is the Pre-owned Milgauss non GV, black dial./ 116400, circa 2009. My dealer has offered to me at a very attractive price.. The watch comes with complete set, leather card holder / card & boxes, etc.
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/David_cheong_album/DSCF2375.jpg)
The watch was massive at 157grams, where as the SD weights only at 147 grams.
The Milgauss has a 40 mm. case with polished lugs and bezel. Even the middle section of the bracelet is polished. The case is quite thick and has downward slopping lugs which make the watch sit very comfortably on my wrist.
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/David_cheong_album/DSCF2376.jpg)
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/David_cheong_album/DSCF2377.jpg)This is an exact opposite to the SD which seems higher in height and keeps flipping to one side of my wrist.
Source copied from the internet website; “__”
“The name Milgauss is derived from the French "mille" - which means 1,000 -and "Gauss", referring to the German mathematician and physicist Carl Friedrich Gauss who did research into magnetic fields. Another measure for the influence of magnetism is ampere per meter (A/m). According to the DIN norm 8309, a watch is considered anti-magnetic if it can work normally in a magnetic field of 4,800 A/m. Now, 4,800 A/m equals ca. 60 gauss. A normal anti-magnetic watch can only cope with 6% of the magnetic field that the Milgauss can handle. Yet another measure is Tesla (T). 1,000 Gauss equals 0.1 Tesla.”
The case
This current Milgauss sports a Faraday cage. There is an outer and a second inner case back. The outer caseback is engraved Milgauss (x 2) and also sports 4 Rolex coronets. The Milgauss is the first men's watch after the Sea-Dweller to sport a factory case back with engraving. The inner case back is laser etched with a "B" which is the symbol for magnetic flux density.
Upon removing this inner case back with the same tool, you only get to see the movement.
Build like a layered Titanic, the only thing I don’t need is to have an iceberg lying around when using and wearing it.
Crown
The Milgauss’s TwinLock crown is actually a little larger than the standard TwinLock (Explorer 1 & 2 and most Datejust but smaller than submariner) which makes it easier to operate, grip & wind smoothly. The diameter of TwinLock crown of the Milgauss is 7mm.
Dial
The normal black faced Milgauss has orange squares at the end of the markers and has no date feature. A date aperture would mean an opening into the movement that would compromise the antimagnetic characteristics of the Milgauss. The hour and minute hands are standard Datejust style with a bright orange lighting bolt second hand.
Crystal
The Milgauss GV do not sport the laser etched coronet at 6 in the crystal. One report said that the laser etched coronet would be too obvious due to the green edged crystal. Other report state that the laser etched coronet would simply be distorted due to the green crystal. Did not know which one is correct.
The other two normal Milgauss models (both black & white dial without the GV) both sport the laser etched coronet: Yup, I saw the laser etched coronet (with a loop) on my Milgauss @ 6 o’ clock position.
Movement
The Milgauss has the movement, the Cal. 3131. This is an upgrade from the Cal. 3130, sporting the in-house developed anti-magnetic Parachrom Blu hairspring plus an escapement which is made of an anti-magnetic alloy. The Faraday case seems redundant due to the Parachrom Blu hairspring and special escapement, this is one of Rolex over-engineering.
With this kind of a protection, I should have no issue running my hand through the car boot – where usually the big magnetic cone of both speakers lies.
Accuracy
After a couple of day’s observation, my Milgauss is spot on, gaining 2 seconds a day
Bracelet
The Milgauss watch come with the Oyster bracelet (ref. 72400?) which is not shared with other Rolex watches. It could due to the curvature between the lugs and the thick case that the Milgauss, thus giving the comfy wear
The clasp sports a hidden Easy Link where you can do minor adjustment to suit the days climate. The bracelet has solid and polished centre links which match and in uniform to that of the watch.
Overall, I am satisfied with my Milgauss as compared to my former SD, after all I don’t do deep diving every other day. The anti-magnetic is a plus for daily use although I don’t get to organize my car’s boot on many occasions. And nowadays, the car speakers are being fitted onto the side panel of each door, no more to the rear top panel of the rear boot.
I am having this Milgauss for the past week for now and hopefully, this one is a keeper
Note; The pictures attached do not do justice to the larger than life Milgauss on my wrist
Hope you do enjoy reading my reviews.
dc
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hi david, very sexy milgauss u hav there. I am milgauss fan too...hope to grab 1 near future. mind share with me your damage? :P :Cheers:
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Can I have a pm of the cost and location too please? Was seriously considering the GV and GMT but finally got a datejust as my first Rolex. Classic look, for a classic achievement. (wedding :p )
Still love the milgauss and would definitely get one in the future.
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Hoegaarden & Hellkite.
PM sent.
dc
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Thanks for the PM! Definitely need to check out that place one of these days. Enjoy your milgauss!
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Thanks for your PM David! sure will visit the shop :Cheers: