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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: Cotsner on April 13, 2011, 05:46:29 AM
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Ladies & gentleman,
What do u guys think of marina militare watches? I work in singapore and marina militare is consider 'welcomed' here. I was wondering how's the acceptance of MM in malaysia?!
In my opinion, a homage watch with good style! Should be worth the dollar and cents!!
Cheers
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What is a homage watch mean to u then?
1. Watch - just to tell time
2. Collection - u can't find/afford for real mm so u get homage one
3. Fashion /Accessories - mm watch match ur style
4. Business - to promote then sell n to make $
5. all the above
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Yeah...nearly all of the above! Well, if really wanna make money through MM, then it's best to study the demand of it in M'sia. Afterall,it will be like RM380 to RM400...cheers!
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MM = Asian movement = RM300 - RM400
MM = Authentic swiss movement = RM1400 - >RM2000
dc
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Where to find in Msia?
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Alternatively, you can check out the Dievas @ rm <RM3k a pop.
I did check it out the other day at the launching (MK), Swiss 6497 movement with fine finishing, though.
dc
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So far there r No watch shop or any outlet selling the MM. I guess can only be found thru watch forum! Cheers that we have MWF!! A place with no boundaries or limit! Hehe
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I am interested to get one MM as well.
I also have difficulty to source for one.
David and Chris, can you guy help?
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Google "Getat".
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Google "Getat".
i second that .. getat is one of the better homage supplier but you must have patient and be prepare to wait as he does take a while ...
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or Jackson Homage...
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Getat is one of the cheapest but QC is a hit and miss.
My friends Getat just suddenly cant wind and stuck after 1-yr of only weekend wearing.
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I saw A pre-owned R W X Marina Militare in Malaysia selling at RM7xxx. Is it worth this much?Just curious
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I saw A pre-owned R W X Marina Militare in Malaysia selling at RM7xxx. Is it worth this much?Just curious
Don't think so
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whether something is 'worth' is pretty subjective. The RXW is quite solidly made and it is a handsome homage to the iconic fiddy with a solid movement. If having not known much about other watches and looking at it alone, i can quite say rm7k is a bit on the high end but still a fair price. But with knowledge on watches, i can say that the price is waaaay over the premium range. So is it worth it to me? Not really now.
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I personally think it is expensive too. But when i look closely at the watch,all the details were beautifully crafted
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Wow!! So many good point of views already! Last two was busy and summore out station...felt left out / outdated liao!! Hah!
In my point of view... Those RWX is just not worth buying them! Because i stil feel that the marina militare watch is best to wear as a toy watch...or for sumthing casual! As long as the watch is clicking...i m sure i will spend RM400 without much hesitation instead of RM4000!!
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Wow!! So many good point of views already! Last two was busy and summore out station...felt left out / outdated liao!! Hah!
In my point of view... Those RWX is just not worth buying them! Because i stil feel that the marina militare watch is best to wear as a toy watch...or for sumthing casual! As long as the watch is clicking...i m sure i will spend RM400 without much hesitation instead of RM4000!!
I saw one sell for RM7 k
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Abel.
There is also one at Bangsar Village selling for the same price.
dc
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Abel.
There is also one at Bangsar Village selling for the same price.
dc
David, ,
actually i am refering to the one in BV 2. I dunno if there any taker?
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Are we talking about RXW or RWX? If it is the RXW and if the watch is the MM20 (original and not fake), it should go for about RM 4,500 to 5,000 condition dependent. If it is the new Poseidon range, it should be about RM3,000.
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I thought there were the same?
Whats different with Poseidon?
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I thought there were the same?
Whats different with Poseidon?
The original RXW MM20. Suppose to be a more accurate as compared to the Panerai PAM00127.
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/RXWMarinaMilitare_040.jpg)
The Poseidon collection (current). They have models that looks like the Panerai PAM00232 (1938) and PAM00249 (1936). Apologies, the current price for the watches are about RM1,500 (if you buy in Japan).
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/img56907037.jpg)
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I thought there were the same?
Whats different with Poseidon?
The original RXW MM20. Suppose to be a more accurate as compared to the Panerai PAM00127.
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/RXWMarinaMilitare_040.jpg)
The Poseidon collection (current). They have models that looks like the Panerai PAM00232 (1938) and PAM00249 (1936). Apologies, the current price for the watches are about RM1,500 (if you buy in Japan).
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/img56907037.jpg)
i missed both...
must go japan n buy a mm25 again
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I thought there were the same?
Whats different with Poseidon?
The original RXW MM20. Suppose to be a more accurate as compared to the Panerai PAM00127.
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/RXWMarinaMilitare_040.jpg)
The Poseidon collection (current). They have models that looks like the Panerai PAM00232 (1938) and PAM00249 (1936). Apologies, the current price for the watches are about RM1,500 (if you buy in Japan).
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/img56907037.jpg)
i missed both...
must go japan n buy a mm25 again
Is ken sato stil operating? I tot he was forced to tutup kedai?
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I think that he still has some stocks over in Japan. A friend who has the MM25 told me that the straps cannot be changed easily like panerai.
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I think that he still has some stocks over in Japan. A friend who has the MM25 told me that the straps cannot be changed easily like panerai.
the lugs is welded to case jus as the original rolex made pam....
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,660.msg5649.html#msg5649 (http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,660.msg5649.html#msg5649)
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I thought there were the same?
Whats different with Poseidon?
The original RXW MM20. Suppose to be a more accurate as compared to the Panerai PAM00127.
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/RXWMarinaMilitare_040.jpg)
The Poseidon collection (current). They have models that looks like the Panerai PAM00232 (1938) and PAM00249 (1936). Apologies, the current price for the watches are about RM1,500 (if you buy in Japan).
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/img56907037.jpg)
This is the exact one i saw in BV2...Wow!!! Very nicely done up but im not sure whether willing to prepare to pay such premium. Is a 47mm,pretty huge for my writst too.
At point,was thinking whether to buy since PAM is not yet in my affordable range
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IMO I think RM7k is too much for a Homage....
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try dievas and davidsen for more affordable ones.
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Rm7k is speculated price
price up bcoz it's rare
1. Ken sato is one of the biggest rolex collector
2. He himself a walking rolex dictionary
3. His rolex homage all well crafted in swiss
4. His homage is Closer to original rolex... 1950 case, dome crystal, sandwich dial, soft iron case...
5. He been sued so production ceased for mm20
6. He actually nvr promote his watches outside japan
7. Only few hundred made
so demand > supply = price up
if u some 1 will to pay rm7k then the price is fair
so let c it can b sold
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try dievas and davidsen for more affordable ones.
CK77,i had checked through davidsen Homeage...seems like it has not been updated for very long time
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CK77,i had checked through davidsen Homeage...seems like it has not been updated for very long time
He doesn't update his photobucket. You'll have to contact him via email but these days he's really slow in reply emails as well.
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My last email to him was dated in dec 15 2010 but yet to receive any feedback from him
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some updates on photobucket yesterday and 3 weeks ago....
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Davidsen is having new email address.
PM me if you want it.
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Wow good to see that there are so many MM fans here. I have recently ordered a daylight chrono homage from Jackson. Incoming. Will post pics soon after i receive it
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nice....good to have homage community here...should we start a new thread....for homage lover
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As i promised, pictures of my new arrival. Actually it arrived last week. Now only i have to time to post it
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301454_10150279290838036_633558035_8086112_1141130_n.jpg)
Sorry for the bad quality photo. Took using iPhone.
Anyways, it keeps good accuracy. Chronograph is working well too. Comes along with genuine leather strap and deployment clasp. The deployment clasp provided is very very flimsy but that's no big deal. Changed to temporary cheap cheap strap from my old watch for the moment as I don't have time to source for aftermarket straps. Quality wise, it is very well built for a homage.
Cheers
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looks solid... more picts bro...
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looks solid... more picts bro...
Once i got the time i will upload more pics bro. High res this time
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High res images as requested. Enjoy
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5785/dsc0494jn.jpg)
(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4716/dsc0495nt.jpg)
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1010/dsc0492j.jpg)
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9091/dsc0489kb.jpg)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8796/dsc0487x.jpg)
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quite nice....congrat
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hi all,
i m new to this forum. i was caught by the watch that is discussed here.
i did a check in the website and saw posiedon is available for order through the website, i wish to check whether the quality of the watch available is ok or not. it is a japan website with the brand of rxw.
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What is a homage watch mean to u then?
1. Watch - just to tell time
2. Collection - u can't find/afford for real mm so u get homage one
3. Fashion /Accessories - mm watch match ur style
4. Business - to promote then sell n to make $
5. all the above
chris,
wan to add 1 more that make me bought a homage recently.
6. dont feel the genuine worth that much (overprice) to buy but i like the design so i bought 1 homage with swiss engine.
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IMHO. a homage is still a homage and cannot compare with a real authentic merchandise.....the feel is not there........
eg. a lady's best item is a real diamond.......don't ever buy a synthetic one as a replacement..
She never forgive you for that.
my 2 cts.
dc
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IMHO. a homage is still a homage and cannot compare with a real authentic merchandise.....the feel is not there........
eg. a lady's best item is a real diamond.......don't ever buy a synthetic one as a replacement..
She never forgive you for that.
my 2 cts.
dc
Hi David,
Please have a look on this article on real panerai movement>>
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/thread/1319322410/318+pictures+update.++Sorry+can%27t+respond+to+emails
what's the feels of panerai fans to find that actually Panerai did use a movement that is cheaper than some people put in fakes and homages...
Steve
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IMHO. a homage is still a homage and cannot compare with a real authentic merchandise.....the feel is not there........
eg. a lady's best item is a real diamond.......don't ever buy a synthetic one as a replacement..
She never forgive you for that.
my 2 cts.
dc
Hi David,
Please have a look on this article on real panerai movement>>
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/thread/1319322410/318+pictures+update.++Sorry+can%27t+respond+to+emails
what's the feels of panerai fans to find that actually Panerai did use a movement that is cheaper than some people put in fakes and homages...
Steve
No, this is untrue.
It might be an undecorated basic ETA/Unitas movement, but it is a serious allegation to mention Panerai uses the same movement that others put into fakes.
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IMHO. a homage is still a homage and cannot compare with a real authentic merchandise.....the feel is not there........
eg. a lady's best item is a real diamond.......don't ever buy a synthetic one as a replacement..
She never forgive you for that.
my 2 cts.
dc
Hi David,
Please have a look on this article on real panerai movement>>
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/thread/1319322410/318+pictures+update.++Sorry+can%27t+respond+to+emails
what's the feels of panerai fans to find that actually Panerai did use a movement that is cheaper than some people put in fakes and homages...
Steve
No, this is untrue.
It might be an undecorated basic ETA/Unitas movement, but it is a serious allegation to mention Panerai uses the same movement that others put into fakes.
You might be right, but using basic ETA/Unitas on a watch worth a few grands is abit odd. No qualm that the basic movement is one of the most reliable for the moment.
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You might be right, but using basic ETA/Unitas on a watch worth a few grands is abit odd. No qualm that the basic movement is one of the most reliable for the moment.
wow! let me cross....UN..Chopard....GP...IWC..LW...Hublot...Cartier...etc of the list too. So a Big Mac on Noritake makes it an upscale Big MAc?
There are tons of expensive brands using "basic ETA/Unitas on a watch worth a few(sic) grand"
not defending OP here but their decision on that has came back and bite them on their very delicate and upscale arse. but there are also tons of other far more expensive watches using the same business practice albeit in a more sophisticated package e.g. putting Mr Os in a Brioni suit and passing him off as James Bond.
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You might be right, but using basic ETA/Unitas on a watch worth a few grands is abit odd. No qualm that the basic movement is one of the most reliable for the moment.
wow! let me cross....UN..Chopard....GP...IWC..LW...Hublot...Cartier...etc of the list too. So a Big Mac on Noritake makes it an upscale Big MAc?
There are tons of expensive brands using "basic ETA/Unitas on a watch worth a few(sic) grand"
not defending OP here but their decision on that has came back and bite them on their very delicate and upscale arse. but there are also tons of other far more expensive watches using the same business practice albeit in a more sophisticated package e.g. putting Mr Os in a Brioni suit and passing him off as James Bond.
Mr. Os? :Laughing_on_floor:
Anyway, I think OP messed up on the PAM00318. Not big time, but still a mistakes in a number of mistakes they made along the way. Part and parcel of growing up I guess (not defending OP). They should stop all these micro SE models.
As for using ETA in a watch, not an issue really. Most of the big boys (as listed by terrenceterrence, not forgetting most of the Swatch Group) have and am using ETA movement in their watches. The movement is robust and reliable. Why re-create the wheel? Even Selita base their movements on the ETA. Even TAG Heuer does it (based on a Seiko, which says a lot for Seiko, since TH has Zenith as a sister brand).
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You might be right, but using basic ETA/Unitas on a watch worth a few grands is abit odd. No qualm that the basic movement is one of the most reliable for the moment.
wow! let me cross....UN..Chopard....GP...IWC..LW...Hublot...Cartier...etc of the list too. So a Big Mac on Noritake makes it an upscale Big MAc?
There are tons of expensive brands using "basic ETA/Unitas on a watch worth a few(sic) grand"
not defending OP here but their decision on that has came back and bite them on their very delicate and upscale arse. but there are also tons of other far more expensive watches using the same business practice albeit in a more sophisticated package e.g. putting Mr Os in a Brioni suit and passing him off as James Bond.
Mr. Os? :Laughing_on_floor:
Anyway, I think OP messed up on the PAM00318. Not big time, but still a mistakes in a number of mistakes they made along the way. Part and parcel of growing up I guess (not defending OP). They should stop all these micro SE models.
As for using ETA in a watch, not an issue really. Most of the big boys (as listed by terrenceterrence, not forgetting most of the Swatch Group) have and am using ETA movement in their watches. The movement is robust and reliable. Why re-create the wheel? Even Selita base their movements on the ETA. Even TAG Heuer does it (based on a Seiko, which says a lot for Seiko, since TH has Zenith as a sister brand).
I believe after Mr.Dufour took over, the El Primero movements are reserved specifically for Zenith watches only, so Tag or any other brand under the LVMH umbrella has no access to it.
Maybe that is the reason Tag went for the Seiko IP.
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I believe after Mr.Dufour took over, the El Primero movements are reserved specifically for Zenith watches only, so Tag or any other brand under the LVMH umbrella has no access to it.
Maybe that is the reason Tag went for the Seiko IP.
Agree with the fact that TAG may not have access to the movement, but I am sure they have access to the technology and knowledge that Zenith has to develop it's own movement (am sure LV have access to the movement). Speaks lots for Seiko I guess and the fact that having a 'cheap' ETA or Unitas movement in an expensive watch does not belittle its value, unless it is unsigned....... ::)
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I believe after Mr.Dufour took over, the El Primero movements are reserved specifically for Zenith watches only, so Tag or any other brand under the LVMH umbrella has no access to it.
Maybe that is the reason Tag went for the Seiko IP.
Agree with the fact that TAG may not have access to the movement, but I am sure they have access to the technology and knowledge that Zenith has to develop it's own movement (am sure LV have access to the movement). Speaks lots for Seiko I guess and the fact that having a 'cheap' ETA or Unitas movement in an expensive watch does not belittle its value, unless it is unsigned....... ::)
Yeap, the ETA movement should be signed at least... ;D