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Title: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: hteng on January 06, 2021, 07:39:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STwVXrnAKy8&ab_channel=OMEGA

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-omega-speedmaster-professional-moonwatch-master-chronometer-with-co-axial-caliber-3861

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/omega-speedmaster-professional-moonwatch-master-chronometer-first-look/

RM29.3k for the sapphire version
RM25.8k for the hesalite version

anyone getting this? or is it better to just get the old ones while they still last?

edited for correct pricing.

Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: ck77 on January 06, 2021, 07:44:10 AM
Hesalite - RM25,800
Sapphire - RM29,350

https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/speedmaster/moonwatch-professional/catalog
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: hteng on January 06, 2021, 07:46:15 AM
Hesalite - RM25,800
Sapphire - RM29,350

https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/speedmaster/moonwatch-professional/catalog

ok that's way higher than the suggested retail price lol
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: ck77 on January 06, 2021, 07:47:16 AM
Hesalite - RM25,800
Sapphire - RM29,350

https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/speedmaster/moonwatch-professional/catalog

ok that's way higher than the suggested retail price lol
What do you mean?
That are Malaysia RRP
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: hteng on January 06, 2021, 07:52:27 AM
Hesalite - RM25,800
Sapphire - RM29,350

https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/speedmaster/moonwatch-professional/catalog

ok that's way higher than the suggested retail price lol
What do you mean?
That are Malaysia RRP

sorry I can't read, you are right. I was looking at both hesalite prices
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: bimmerman on January 06, 2021, 08:29:10 AM
Any chance of a 20+5% discount on the RRP Perhaps?
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: i.z.z on January 06, 2021, 08:44:08 AM
New 3861 movement, new bracelet other than that still very much a moonwatch (from what I read online). After 50 years I guess it is expected that Omega going to update the movement on their most popular model.
I guess for 1st time buyer of moonwatch it's make sense to get the new movement (it's supposed to be better right? )
But for me I'm happy with my 1861 cal Speedy.
Just my 2 cents
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Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 06, 2021, 09:35:27 AM
I suppose it is a good thing that they update the watch to keep up with the rest of what they have to offer. Besides, they could always use this update as an excuse to go back to a previous version 10 years from now and say they are releasing a historic LE that stays true to the original build or something kan? Gimmick kuat  ;D
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: faizall on January 06, 2021, 10:58:10 AM
Nice watch. Really hope they can bring back the reduced version or they reduced the size a bit (special edition or etc) haha
Title: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: ck77 on January 06, 2021, 11:38:31 AM
Nice watch. Really hope they can bring back the reduced version or they reduced the size a bit (special edition or etc) haha
Don't think so, there will stick to their current 'recuded' line up  ;D
https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/speedmaster/speedmaster-38-mm/catalog
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 06, 2021, 11:41:25 AM
out of curiosity, was it the reduced that had the weird 2-in1 movement modules that were difficult to service? or was that an old version or something?
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: ck77 on January 06, 2021, 11:43:12 AM
out of curiosity, was it the reduced that had the weird 2-in1 movement modules that were difficult to service? or was that an old version or something?
Time consuming and need a lot of patience, normally they will just swap refurbished module instead of service.
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 06, 2021, 07:50:25 PM

The RRP has jumped almost RM10k and I would have expected a Glidelock like clasp and 70 hours power reserve.

Smart move to make the 2020 Snoopy look like an acceptable price at close to RM40k.

Glad I bought the previous model while they were "relatively cheap" and I can see their value slowly creep up when supplies run out.

They're trying to capture the RM30k RRP market that ROLEX has left vacant.



Any chance of a 20+5% discount on the RRP Perhaps?

When it doesn't move, AD will offer for sure.
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: ck77 on January 06, 2021, 07:51:56 PM

The RRP has jumped almost RM10k and I would have expected a Glidelock like clasp and 70 hours power reserve.

Smart move to make the 2020 Snoopy look like an acceptable price at close to RM40k.

Glad I bought the previous model while they were "relatively cheap" and I can see their value slowly creep up when supplies run out.

They're trying to capture the RM30k RRP market that ROLEX has left vacant.



Any chance of a 20+5% discount on the RRP Perhaps?

When it doesn't move, AD will offer for sure.
Rrp was 20450 now 25800
Up 5250 or 26%


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Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 06, 2021, 07:54:48 PM

Rrp was 20450 now 25800
Up 5250 or 26%


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When I bought the 1863 in late 2018, RRP was just around RM20k compared to RM29,350 now.

I think we can see 25-30% off at your friendly long time AD unless OMEGA is squeezing them.
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: ck77 on January 06, 2021, 07:57:27 PM

Rrp was 20450 now 25800
Up 5250 or 26%


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When I bought the 1863 in late 2018, RRP was just around RM20k compared to RM29,350 now.

I think we can see 25-30% off at your friendly long time AD unless OMEGA is squeezing them.
That’s 2018 bro
Sapphire was 24050 before discont
Up 24% now
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Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: hteng on January 06, 2021, 07:58:38 PM

Rrp was 20450 now 25800
Up 5250 or 26%


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When I bought the 1863 in late 2018, RRP was just around RM20k compared to RM29,350 now.

I think we can see 25-30% off at your friendly long time AD unless OMEGA is squeezing them.

newbie here but ADs can give that much discount for newly just released watches? and still make a profit??
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 06, 2021, 07:59:02 PM
wow.. it did shoot up quite a bit in just 2 years.. definitely filling up the ROLEX gap
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 06, 2021, 07:59:47 PM

newbie here but ADs can give that much discount for newly just released watches? and still make a profit??


It never hurts to dream or ask...
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 06, 2021, 08:04:30 PM
Man, thats quite a significant jump. I'm not sure how to take this - on one hand, it's supposed to be a significant piece of timekeeping history that has a place in just about any collection. But on the other hand, from a practical standpoint (or at least my practical standpoint at least), its only a manual wound chronograph with 50m WR that has now become rather pricey. Even a cheaper reduced has more useful specs (to me la at least). I did earmark it as a possible future acquisition but now, at this price point, I'm loosing interest di. I wonder how many ppl would end up feeling the same? This isn't a rolex/AP/PP. Curious to see how the market responds to this.
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: hteng on January 06, 2021, 08:19:37 PM
Omega's moving up market, all according to plan haha

 I think part of the charm of the speedy was that it hit the right balance of affordability and historical significance, it's the number 1 recommended watch for people that wants to get into watch collecting or first serious luxury watch. When it's priced out of reach of most average folks then it would be a sad day :(
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 06, 2021, 09:04:10 PM
To me, the steel Speedy is a recommended buy at below RM20k with a hand wound movement that bears close resemblance to the original moonwatch.   These recent "improvements" to the movement and price markup makes it no longer attractive.

The should have kept the exorbitant prices to the limited edition models instead.
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: ambrose0422 on January 06, 2021, 09:22:41 PM
Just visited OMEGA Boutique yesterday, and no sign of the black dial speedmaster.
By the way i went for having a wrist on the Speedmaster 300M, like it.
The only thing left is work hard  :D :D
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: c4all on January 07, 2021, 08:05:49 AM
Wow. These Omegas now are really pricey. Personally for me, I think I would go with the previous iterations. Although the current model may have better specifications, I cannot see myself paying above RM20,000 for one.
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: kwang89 on January 16, 2021, 11:13:29 AM
Anybody have news on when the new Speedy will hit the Omega Boutiques in Malaysia?
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: ck77 on January 19, 2021, 12:27:39 PM
Received following message from Omega boutique.

Hi Good afternoon, all new Speedmaster Calibre 3861 is available now, we do delivery service if you want to buy, but if you want to have a look first then need to wait our boutique to open soon, thanks!
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: bimmerman on January 19, 2021, 12:43:27 PM
Wow that's the way Omega! They deserve a standing ovation. No fictional waiting lists, just good old "see it, like it, buy it " as the business of selling watches should be.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: faizall on January 19, 2021, 12:46:59 PM
Nice. Haha last time, The Hour Glass provided a virtual tour to their boutique during this pandemic. can arrange with them if interested. Quit nice  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: Nict on January 19, 2021, 04:46:36 PM
I will be picking up one ASAP!! They look amazing
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 19, 2021, 07:39:12 PM
I will be picking up one ASAP!! They look amazing


Do share how much discount is available? Am hoping for 30% at least
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: kwang89 on January 20, 2021, 09:04:23 AM
Usually new launched Omega models will not be given any discounts so soon lol
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 20, 2021, 09:13:11 AM
I think the boutiques don’t discount. They just give freebies or extended warranties. ADs might give discounts even for new watches.
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: G.MAC on January 20, 2021, 10:24:55 AM
My experience with boutiques is that there are no discounts. For AD, usually there are discounts for the less hot models. For the hotter ones, discounts are generally around the 10% range.
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: Nict on January 20, 2021, 11:38:46 AM
I will be picking up one ASAP!! They look amazing


Do share how much discount is available? Am hoping for 30% at least

Unfortunately the boutiques aren't offering discounts for the new moonwatch. RRP applies
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 20, 2021, 12:05:50 PM
I will be picking up one ASAP!! They look amazing


Do share how much discount is available? Am hoping for 30% at least

Unfortunately the boutiques aren't offering discounts for the new moonwatch. RRP applies

wait a bit for the hype to blow over and stocks reach the ADs.. can save a bit

Is there a side by side comparison for the old and new one?
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: Gentlemen101 on January 20, 2021, 12:11:25 PM
If 30% I also contemplating to grab one..lol.

Maybe few years down the road AD will give 30%+,n new I think it’s not possible..perhaps
nego with them in group buyings? I am not sure ..
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 20, 2021, 12:15:42 PM
If 30% I also contemplating to grab one..lol.

Maybe few years down the road AD will give 30%+,n new I think it’s not possible..perhaps
nego with them in group buyings? I am not sure ..

Can't wait too long though.. 5 years of annual 5% price increase means you'll be buying it at today's RRP..

 :HammerHead:

Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: Gentlemen101 on January 20, 2021, 12:17:54 PM
True indeed. Your take on speedy 3861, is it a good buy?
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: ck77 on January 20, 2021, 01:39:21 PM
I will be picking up one ASAP!! They look amazing


Do share how much discount is available? Am hoping for 30% at least

Unfortunately the boutiques aren't offering discounts for the new moonwatch. RRP applies

wait a bit for the hype to blow over and stocks reach the ADs.. can save a bit

Is there a side by side comparison for the old and new one?
“Hands-On Watch Review: Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch — New Vs. Old” via @watchville https://api.watchville.co/v2/posts/56957/click


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Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 20, 2021, 01:48:44 PM
True indeed. Your take on speedy 3861, is it a good buy?

Undecided because already have the 1863.



%u201CHands-On Watch Review: Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch %u2014 New Vs. Old%u201D via @watchville https://api.watchville.co/v2/posts/56957/click


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 :thumbsup: but it doesn't compare the newest one with the outgoing one.. instead he's comparing to a much older version.
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: Nict on January 20, 2021, 03:04:42 PM
The movement is a huge improvement over the previous model. That coupled with the new bracelet and cosmetic changes and I think it’s worth the extra price
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: ck77 on January 20, 2021, 03:14:46 PM
True indeed. Your take on speedy 3861, is it a good buy?

Undecided because already have the 1863.



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 :thumbsup: but it doesn't compare the newest one with the outgoing one.. instead he's comparing to a much older version.
3750 is basically the same watch as the outgoing one.


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Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 20, 2021, 04:54:30 PM
At 30% discount, the price would be almost comparable to previous model prices, which seems alright. But I dunno la, still doesn't quite appeal to me.
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: faizall on January 20, 2021, 06:34:50 PM
Alright. Will comeback to this group in 3yrs time. Sempat menabung and hope can get that 30% discount by that time. Hahaha
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 20, 2021, 07:07:14 PM

3750 is basically the same watch as the outgoing one.


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after actually studying the pictures, you can see the differences..

1. seconds track now has less divisions to account for the 21,600vph movement, cleaner dial  :thumbsup:
2. sub dial depressions a bit different ie. look more like pie pan  :thumbsup:
3. middle of hands in sub dial aren't painted white  :thumbsdown:
4. Speedmaster word looks bigger  :thumbsup: and PROFESSIONAL looks wider too  :thumbsup:
5. bracelet looks finer, more like jubilee  :thumbsup:
6. clasp is changed.. undecided on this.




Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: Gentlemen101 on January 22, 2021, 06:59:19 AM
Got an offers rm18.5k , speedy moonwatch 1861 brand new, u think it’s a good buy?
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: dpkong on January 22, 2021, 07:32:22 AM
Got an offers rm18.5k , speedy moonwatch 1861 brand new, u think it’s a good buy?

All depends on the buyer. I believe the 1863 could be bought new from AD at RM16k in 2018 and the 1861 was going for about 2k less then.

I would trade up a 1863 for 3861 just because the new movement hacks.



Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 22, 2021, 07:54:01 AM
Got an offers rm18.5k , speedy moonwatch 1861 brand new, u think it’s a good buy?

I got quoted 16830 for the 1861 cal variant at the boutique around mid of last year. With the price hike included maybe its a decent buy?
Title: Re: New Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Launched
Post by: Nict on January 22, 2021, 10:30:21 AM
Go the brand new one instead! It’s a huge upgrade and well worth the extra money