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Title: Complication or Brand?
Post by: blurrycloud on February 09, 2011, 11:19:04 PM

So my question is this,
Would you pay more for a brand? Or more for a complication?

For example, you have 3 choices

a. Expensive brand, simple watch
Maurice Lacroix, Pontos, PT6227 Black Dial
Baume & Mercier, Classima Executive, 8689

b. Not so expensive brand, more complications
Oris, Artelier Complication, 01 581 7592 4054-07 5 21 71FC
Seiko, Premier, SNP005P1

c. Minimal value brand, high complication
Chinese Tourbillon from SeaGull (chinese brand)
Or any Chinese Tourbillon from ebay

Assuming all 3 choices cost the same, which would you buy?

Title: Re: Complication or Brand?
Post by: rioet on February 10, 2011, 04:30:04 AM

your survey is too wide and not specific enuf. i suggest better to put a price range on each catogary. diff ppl with diff income have the diff terms of expensive and not so expensive.

Title: Re: Complication or Brand?
Post by: blurrycloud on February 10, 2011, 05:34:58 AM

all of them ARE roughly similar in price

ML pontos is about 5000
B&M classima is about 6000

Oris artelier about 5000
Seiko premier about 2000?

Chinese tourbillon is about 5000

Title: Re: Complication or Brand?
Post by: shifter on February 10, 2011, 07:39:31 AM

Hm... none of the options fits my profile. I think it has to do with individual direction assuming one is a:

1) Serious collector
2) Enthusiast
3) Hogger - Volume of watches being a priority (if this category even exist - i know there is)
4) Pls fill in if there's any more...

I am generally skewed towards Japanese brands overall and as for complication, not a big issue with me as most watches - assuming mechanical - which has high complications are mainly dress watches. Im more a sports watch person and like my dress watches to be simple 3 hand or with date/day complication (if you can even call it that). Well, high complication models beyond, day/date, chrono features are usually way above what I can afford anyway and I dont like mechanical perpetual calendar variants - too much fuss although i can appreciate the art of it.

Title: Re: Complication or Brand?
Post by: xnizarx on February 10, 2011, 10:25:24 AM

what class is mine?---Tudor Hydro1200..rm10k?

Title: Re: Complication or Brand?
Post by: hanz079 on February 10, 2011, 10:58:19 AM

I dunno if I'm right but I think what you mean is that if the price is similar say rm6k,
Will you get an entry level luxury brand watch with no complications.
Juz 3 hands for seconds, minutes and hours... or spend the money on an unknown brand with more complications.
I might be giving some bad examples coz I'm not too sure what complications can 6k get you... maybe a chronograph?
But If it were me, I would go for what I want within the budget allowed...
At one point, I wanted a mechanical chronograph but I will still want a piece that speaks to me and fulfill my own criteria, rectangular shape, rubber strap, mechanical auto chrono... and I got that in the Pontos that I have, within my budget...
If unlimited budget... Zenith Port Royal Open without any 2nd thoughts...
But until then, I will have to make do with my Pontos at the moment...  ;D
I own a ML as well and all I can say is their watches are of excellent quality and eventhough I overpaid for it (according to many ppl) I still love it to bits...
The Pontos that you're looking at is actually almost the same as mine minus the chronograph function if I'm not mistaken.
But I can see why you like it, it's sleek... stand out frm the other watches in your list. (shape wise)
I answered the middle one coz I am currently looking at mechanical alarm and a minute repeater watch.
Both is abit pricey but if I can get the complication with an OK brand (dunno what constitutes OK)
I will buy it without hesitation if it fits my budget and the design is of my liking.

Title: Re: Complication or Brand?
Post by: Coco on February 10, 2011, 11:08:10 AM

I would go for the first option. A simple movement is reliable, easy and cheap for maintenance.
Good brands still have acceptable re-sell value.

Title: Re: Complication or Brand?
Post by: maximillian on February 10, 2011, 04:35:48 PM

i would choose the simple watch but expensive brand as oppose to the other two watches.its like you can buy a bmw 3 series,or a full spec'd toyota camry at similar price point..but for me the 'feel good' factor still lies with the bmw.maybe its just me,but higher/more expensive brands have nicer designs/total package..and minimal brand like the millionsmart tourbillon is of horrible build quality but amazing complication...however,the last option of the tourbillon i dont think i will opt for it because of servicing/parts seems hard for such chinese tourbillons

Title: Re: Complication or Brand?
Post by: rioet on February 11, 2011, 05:24:10 AM

Quote from: blurrycloud on February 10, 2011, 05:34:58 AM

all of them ARE roughly similar in price

ML pontos is about 5000
B&M classima is about 6000

Oris artelier about 5000
Seiko premier about 2000?

Chinese tourbillon is about 5000

whr can u get the seagull with rm5000?? i dont mind to get a pcs for casual wear. mind to share?

Title: Re: Complication or Brand?
Post by: blurrycloud on February 11, 2011, 06:47:14 AM

can't remember exactly, try checking the us website or xbay
but chinese tourbillons are generally below 1000usd = 4-5k including everything?