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Title: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: KimY on September 13, 2020, 05:27:54 AM
Hi everyone,

My AD recently offered me a DJ41 Azzuro Blue with Roman wording at retail price, it’s a nice piece of Rolex as it’s with a blue dial but i definitely prefer to have Sport series just the waiting period could be ages. What you guys think? Should i get it or continue the wait?
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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: c4all on September 13, 2020, 05:38:02 AM
Go for it. The wait for the sports models can take years.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: dpkong on September 13, 2020, 09:47:16 AM
Buy it if you like it. Datejusts are not as easy to flip as the sport models if you later find you don't really like it.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: KimY on September 13, 2020, 10:21:30 AM
Thanks for the advice


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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: dpkong on September 13, 2020, 12:42:56 PM
Thanks for the advice


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To be honest, this is the classic ROLEX with jubilee bracelet and fluted bezel. Roman dial is nice and blue is the trending color. At the newer 41mm size, the fluted bezel is more outstanding.

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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: ivanpei on September 25, 2020, 08:36:00 AM
Should go for it. Very in demand dial colour and easy to flip for above retail even pre-owned. DJ41 fluted bezel on jubilee can flip for over retail in Grey or Blue Dial. Can wear until you get a sports model, then flip it and make some pocket money.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: KimY on September 25, 2020, 09:00:20 AM
Thanks for all the advice, it’s already in my hand now. Gonna wear it til i got another master piece.


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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: dpkong on September 25, 2020, 09:03:02 AM
Should go for it. Very in demand dial colour and easy to flip for above retail even pre-owned. DJ41 fluted bezel on jubilee can flip for over retail in Grey or Blue Dial. Can wear until you get a sports model, then flip it and make some pocket money.

Pre-owned Datejust can flip above retail??

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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: ivanpei on September 25, 2020, 09:07:30 AM
Friend just bought a DJ41 Rhodium Dial on Jubilee preowned for above retail. Very very slight mark up only. Retail about 37, preowned about 39 now. Crazy market right?
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: G.MAC on September 25, 2020, 09:31:48 AM
If the shop is selling at that price, you would not be able to. Shops offer warranty.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: dpkong on September 25, 2020, 09:35:02 AM
If the shop is selling at that price, you would not be able to. Shops offer warranty.

This model is new and with the card will have 5 years warranty from ROLEX. The shop warranty only gives you peace of mind that it's original. A quick check at the RSC will do that as well.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: G.MAC on September 25, 2020, 09:39:29 AM
Then just have to look for a willing buyer who is willing to trust the seller.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: ivanpei on September 25, 2020, 09:49:24 AM
True, can trade in or sell but lower at retail or slightly below retail. But who knows what will happen in a few more years. DJ41s are increasing daily. Last year nobody wanted DJ41s. Things are changing I guess.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: dpkong on September 25, 2020, 09:52:27 AM
True, can trade in or sell but lower at retail or slightly below retail. But who knows what will happen in a few more years. DJ41s are increasing daily. Last year nobody wanted DJ41s. Things are changing I guess.

For all we know, nobody might want DJ41s anymore next year...  and a lot of people wishing that no more queues for sports model too. So yeah, it could go either way.

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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: ivanpei on September 25, 2020, 10:01:16 AM
Told a friend to wait until new Submariner model comes out. I told him the 116610 will drop after the 126610 comes out. Turn out terbalik, everyone saw it's almost the same and still shortage. 116610 also up price after "discontinued". Old model go up after new one come out. Really cannot predict the future. Crazy.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: dpkong on September 25, 2020, 10:39:24 AM
Told a friend to wait until new Submariner model comes out. I told him the 116610 will drop after the 126610 comes out. Turn out terbalik, everyone saw it's almost the same and still shortage. 116610 also up price after "discontinued". Old model go up after new one come out. Really cannot predict the future. Crazy.

The asking prices of 116710 GMT also shot up immediately after it was discontinued but after awhile the prices came down. So either you buy when the price is stable or wait until the new releases has reached stores and then see what happens. It should always come down.

Some AD already have the new Submariner in stores. Go check some ADs out this weekend.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: nctt1971 on September 25, 2020, 10:23:39 PM
Personally, i will go for it. i like blue 41mm maybe not the roman dials. i think demand for 41 mm is picking up. if it looks nice on your wrist.. go for it.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: Sky 007 on September 26, 2020, 10:54:18 AM
Rolex Datejust Blue Dial are really very attractive (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200926/a2c9aac20ec35e50a36369da6d7285ab.jpg)

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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: KimY on September 26, 2020, 05:01:33 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200926/a52c123d3318c14722e36c31adf005f0.jpg)

Any angle it just look nice.


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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: ivanpei on September 26, 2020, 05:29:06 PM
Congratulations! I have the Datejust II 116334 with the same dial.

Beautiful colour and love the Roman Numerals. (https://i.redd.it/xwnuli4lyuy41.jpg)
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: mrkgoh on September 27, 2020, 09:09:08 AM
Told a friend to wait until new Submariner model comes out. I told him the 116610 will drop after the 126610 comes out. Turn out terbalik, everyone saw it's almost the same and still shortage. 116610 also up price after "discontinued". Old model go up after new one come out. Really cannot predict the future. Crazy.

The asking prices of 116710 GMT also shot up immediately after it was discontinued but after awhile the prices came down. So either you buy when the price is stable or wait until the new releases has reached stores and then see what happens. It should always come down.

Some AD already have the new Submariner in stores. Go check some ADs out this weekend.
Mind sharing which ADs are distributing? I called a few but all of them said they haven't received stock yet

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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: ivanpei on September 27, 2020, 06:09:44 PM
To be honest my experience at the KL ADs have been terrible recently. Most sales agents won't entertain your requests and look at you a certain way when you ask about Sports/Stainless steel models. Generally very unpleasant experience. I was able to score a Fluted DJ41 Rhodium on the Jubilee this year but that's at a smaller city AD.

It's pretty hopeless in KL.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: skipplim on September 27, 2020, 07:58:16 PM
Is this DJ in demand? I wonder could it fetch higher than retail price? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200927/f7c2a4dbb73b2b1ddff7798d31cacee4.jpg)

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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: ivanpei on September 27, 2020, 08:38:21 PM
This dial, yes, but it's worth more on the Jubilee. Pre-owned I think it will still be around retail or very very little premium.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: mrkgoh on September 28, 2020, 09:30:30 AM
To be honest my experience at the KL ADs have been terrible recently. Most sales agents won't entertain your requests and look at you a certain way when you ask about Sports/Stainless steel models. Generally very unpleasant experience. I was able to score a Fluted DJ41 Rhodium on the Jubilee this year but that's at a smaller city AD.

It's pretty hopeless in KL.
It's very weird in KL, they have no Sub for sale to regular customers but grey market sellers like Time Galaxy, WatchLim, and Prestige Watch selling on Facebook and WhatsApp. No Sub for retail buyers but there's sub for grey dealers.

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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: dpkong on September 28, 2020, 10:05:53 AM
To be honest my experience at the KL ADs have been terrible recently. Most sales agents won't entertain your requests and look at you a certain way when you ask about Sports/Stainless steel models. Generally very unpleasant experience. I was able to score a Fluted DJ41 Rhodium on the Jubilee this year but that's at a smaller city AD.

It's pretty hopeless in KL.
It's very weird in KL, they have no Sub for sale to regular customers but grey market sellers like Time Galaxy, WatchLim, and Prestige Watch selling on Facebook and WhatsApp. No Sub for retail buyers but there's sub for grey dealers.

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By regular, I assume you've never bought anything before?

To be honest, some grey dealers get their stocks from overseas though some no doubt are local. The topic is hotly debated and it's generally understood that some ADs have runners who deal with grey dealers.

I heard some AD have the stock and will use as display piece for awhile so people can come see it. Sales will probably start a little later when more are available.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: G.MAC on September 29, 2020, 08:58:12 AM
I think it should be clarified here that “regular” means you make purchases past a certain figure annually. What that figure is, you need to check with the AD concerned.


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Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: W3ll on October 02, 2020, 07:17:09 AM
To be honest my experience at the KL ADs have been terrible recently. Most sales agents won't entertain your requests and look at you a certain way when you ask about Sports/Stainless steel models. Generally very unpleasant experience. I was able to score a Fluted DJ41 Rhodium on the Jubilee this year but that's at a smaller city AD.

It's pretty hopeless in KL.
It's very weird in KL, they have no Sub for sale to regular customers but grey market sellers like Time Galaxy, WatchLim, and Prestige Watch selling on Facebook and WhatsApp. No Sub for retail buyers but there's sub for grey dealers.

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It's not weird when you understand who are these grey people connected to get their watches
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: dpkong on October 02, 2020, 07:21:33 AM

It's not weird when you understand who are these grey people connected to get their watches



Mind sharing who these people are or is that taboo topic?

Anyone who forked out the money to buy at premium will know which retailer it came from, unless it come with the new card.
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: W3ll on October 02, 2020, 11:59:44 AM

It's not weird when you understand who are these grey people connected to get their watches



Mind sharing who these people are or is that taboo topic?

Anyone who forked out the money to buy at premium will know which retailer it came from, unless it come with the new card.

Not a taboo for sure, if you monitor this "Game" long enough, is pretty obvious the AD / Grey are the same "gang", like you said, AD has insider who work with the grey dealers.. Grey will have their "Set up" customers to go AD and buy those watches from them.. sometimes they strike a deal where the "customer" will buy together with a few other bundle watches.. ever wonder where the grey get all their hublot brand new from selling at lower prices than AD?
Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: dpkong on October 02, 2020, 12:19:28 PM

It's not weird when you understand who are these grey people connected to get their watches



Mind sharing who these people are or is that taboo topic?

Anyone who forked out the money to buy at premium will know which retailer it came from, unless it come with the new card.

Not a taboo for sure, if you monitor this "Game" long enough, is pretty obvious the AD / Grey are the same "gang", like you said, AD has insider who work with the grey dealers.. Grey will have their "Set up" customers to go AD and buy those watches from them.. sometimes they strike a deal where the "customer" will buy together with a few other bundle watches.. ever wonder where the grey get all their hublot brand new from selling at lower prices than AD?

just wondering if those "runner" are from a special group who "makes you an offer you can't resist" type...

Title: Re: Datejust 41 Azzuro Blue
Post by: W3ll on October 03, 2020, 07:44:55 AM

It's not weird when you understand who are these grey people connected to get their watches



Mind sharing who these people are or is that taboo topic?

Anyone who forked out the money to buy at premium will know which retailer it came from, unless it come with the new card.

Not a taboo for sure, if you monitor this "Game" long enough, is pretty obvious the AD / Grey are the same "gang", like you said, AD has insider who work with the grey dealers.. Grey will have their "Set up" customers to go AD and buy those watches from them.. sometimes they strike a deal where the "customer" will buy together with a few other bundle watches.. ever wonder where the grey get all their hublot brand new from selling at lower prices than AD?

just wondering if those "runner" are from a special group who "makes you an offer you can't resist" type...

Sadly whoever these people is they had turn the rolex sports into money making tool for them..  as long as people keep paying crazy premium for them , it won’t stop