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Title: Movement question
Post by: mrbean3212 on October 22, 2018, 06:22:05 PM

Hello there

Any watch experts out there who knows what movement is this?

Thanks you in advance

Title: Re: Movement question
Post by: freefighter on October 22, 2018, 08:34:37 PM

Looks like a China-made basic ST25 Seagull movement which has lost its self-winding rotor (ie. without it, the watch won't work). If this is the image of a watch you plan to buy - all I can say is run, and run as far as you can.

You can spot some similarities here:
(https://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/martin_nspm/Parnis_pwrrsrv_mvmnt_1.jpg)

You can see a short video here too with the rotor in motion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJDNGpxQ0jE

Title: Re: Movement question
Post by: meoramri on October 23, 2018, 07:37:22 AM

Orient does the same with its automatic movement. By taking off the self winding rotor, the movement transforms to a winding mechanical watch (see the Orient Monarch). In this case, the movement may still work but requires manual winding.

Title: Re: Movement question
Post by: freefighter on October 23, 2018, 08:41:58 AM

With all due respect bro meoramri, if a watchmaker removes the winding rotor by intention, they will do something to compensate.

In the case of the Orient Monarch, there is another plate that is placed on top with perlage decoration that will not have gearing like the photo shown in the original post. I’m guessing this is the image of the Monarch movement? (I could be wrong)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181023/85b9180bf2d3b0d411ed61d28e89aac6.jpg)


Also winding rotors aren’t expensive. So if it is removed, it is also a sign of cutting corners by manufacturers - another reason to stay away.

Just my 2 cents.