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Title: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: matthiaswatch on August 24, 2017, 08:46:44 PM
Hi all

Recently I saw an ad from a reputable local dealer selling a used Cartier Santos with 18k Gold bezel.
From the photos it look amazing. BUT, when I went to see it in person, the gold was BARELY NOTICEABLE at all.
Are they trying to scam me?
Will the gold fade over time?
What is happening?
 


Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: Cocas on August 24, 2017, 08:58:03 PM
Could it be the surrounding lighting reflection? Sometimes gold color turns pale because lighting.
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: matthiaswatch on August 24, 2017, 09:11:40 PM
My mum has a ladies Santos with gold bezel, you can still see very clearly the yellow gold outdoor under the sunlight. But this one, under the sunlight it's just silver. When I hide it in my shirt I can see only a little bit yellow gold
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: rmunawar9 on August 24, 2017, 09:27:18 PM
In my view it's all light play. AD pic taken in a different light conditions then the used. And for sure brand new is new so polish is new. I don't think it's a scam and more of light play. But well I have not seen in real so can't say much


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Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: Cocas on August 24, 2017, 09:32:33 PM
That is normal.

If shot the photo under the yellow lighting, the gold color will turn darker and richer.

Even though they are the same 18k gold, but if they come from different gold mills. The 18k gold color can be different.

My Tissot Carson 18k gold vs Rolex Cellini 18k Gold. Rolex Gold colour always looks better.
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: Timeless on August 25, 2017, 06:17:18 AM
Gold reflection is most likely depends on lighting color or dark environment. It could turn out differently.
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: Cocas on August 25, 2017, 06:22:55 AM
Here are the photos of gold watch under direct sunlight and shade,for easy comparison.
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: tonykpk on August 25, 2017, 08:17:09 AM
Oxidized  18k yellow gold might look darker n differ from unoxidized  gold which will look a little pale.
FYI  the mixture of gold watches are 75 percent  gold to 25 percent  steel  .
Regards
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: tonykpk on August 25, 2017, 08:23:03 AM
The one u saw at the AD might be rose gold .
Regards
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: matthiaswatch on August 25, 2017, 08:34:17 AM
In my view it's all light play. AD pic taken in a different light conditions then the used. And for sure brand new is new so polish is new. I don't think it's a scam and more of light play. But well I have not seen in real so can't say much


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AD pic was taken using a mini photobox
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: matthiaswatch on August 25, 2017, 08:39:03 AM
Oxidized  18k yellow gold might look darker n differ from unoxidized  gold which will look a little pale.
FYI  the mixture of gold watches are 75 percent  gold to 25 percent  steel  .
Regards

I see, so does it mean every watch (even from the same model) will have a different colour depending on usage?
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: matthiaswatch on August 25, 2017, 08:39:39 AM
The one u saw at the AD might be rose gold .
Regards

This version got rose gold meh? I think don't have leh..   ???
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: rmunawar9 on August 25, 2017, 09:48:05 AM
Oxidized  18k yellow gold might look darker n differ from unoxidized  gold which will look a little pale.
FYI  the mixture of gold watches are 75 percent  gold to 25 percent  steel  .
Regards

I see, so does it mean every watch (even from the same model) will have a different colour depending on usage?
May not be a direct relation but it  I believe so. Like every Bronze watch can be different from other depending on usage.


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Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: Cocas on August 25, 2017, 03:14:17 PM
Oxidized  18k yellow gold might look darker n differ from unoxidized  gold which will look a little pale.
FYI  the mixture of gold watches are 75 percent  gold to 25 percent  steel  .
Regards

I see, so does it mean every watch (even from the same model) will have a different colour depending on usage?

Rolex will be the exception because it has its own gold furnace and production department. Its gold color will not change like other watch brands. My tissot carson gold watch even get reddish stain just like my 999 bullion gold coin when it ages. :P
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: tonykpk on August 26, 2017, 08:28:14 AM
So does my rolex president  18238  and Daytona 2 tone 16523.
Who says rolex gold doesn't  oxidized..?
Oxidized  18k yellow gold might look darker n differ from unoxidized  gold which will look a little pale.
FYI  the mixture of gold watches are 75 percent  gold to 25 percent  steel  .
Regards

I see, so does it mean every watch (even from the same model) will have a different colour depending on usage?

Rolex will be the exception because it has its own gold furnace and production department. Its gold color will not change like other watch brands. My tissot carson gold watch even get reddish stain just like my 999 bullion gold coin when it ages. :P
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: chenht on August 26, 2017, 09:31:39 AM
My 2 tone GMT oxidised too.



So does my rolex president  18238  and Daytona 2 tone 16523.
Who says rolex gold doesn't  oxidized..?
Oxidized  18k yellow gold might look darker n differ from unoxidized  gold which will look a little pale.
FYI  the mixture of gold watches are 75 percent  gold to 25 percent  steel  .
Regards

I see, so does it mean every watch (even from the same model) will have a different colour depending on usage?

Rolex will be the exception because it has its own gold furnace and production department. Its gold color will not change like other watch brands. My tissot carson gold watch even get reddish stain just like my 999 bullion gold coin when it ages. :P
Title: Re: Gold Faded? Cartier Santos 18k
Post by: tonykpk on August 26, 2017, 11:29:29 AM
The one u saw at the AD might be rose gold .
Regards

This version got rose gold meh? I think don't have leh..   ???
The rose gold bezel  model no: W20107X7.