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Title: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: agbyee on December 23, 2016, 11:48:06 PM
Hi guys,
Which one would you choose among the 2 mentioned above?i am asking as IF given the budget for an IWC of course thats an obvious choice. But being said so I understand both are using ETA movement hence IWC might be overpriced for this reason. Please share your thoughts on this.
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: hidden830726 on December 24, 2016, 06:42:43 AM
who said if given budget should go IWC? If you have budget, you should go Rolex. (that will be the popular answer)

Joking aside, if you like IWC, go for it. If you want value, just go Stowa.

For me, i dont like the Mark XVI lack of 12 and 6, and dont like the big IWC logo. Much Prefer a Stowa No Logo No date.

Edit: and why the hack the need to tell people its automatic on the dial.

The only watch company that stay true to their Flieger origin is Laco, but that is another Story.
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: Timeless on December 25, 2016, 07:22:53 AM
Stowa, dial is well balanced IMO.
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: meoramri on December 25, 2016, 09:37:42 AM
+1 for stowa


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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: Cocas on December 25, 2016, 01:00:52 PM
Hi guys,
Which one would you choose among the 2 mentioned above?i am asking as IF given the budget for an IWC of course thats an obvious choice. But being said so I understand both are using ETA movement hence IWC might be overpriced for this reason. Please share your thoughts on this.

If the choice must be made between IWC and Stowa. Then I only will choose IWC.
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: hidden830726 on December 25, 2016, 01:02:51 PM
Actually. Someone selling the xvi at Pre-owned section. Yup. IWC good. Ts should check it out.

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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: dualcarb on December 25, 2016, 09:38:30 PM
Since they are both using ETA movements, and assuming budget is a non issue here, I vote IWC. Nothing against Stowa, however for pure looks, IWC bags it. Stowa would be the more toolish of the two. But the mark series from IWC is something else altogether. Having previously owned two pilot chrono from IWC, 3706 and 3717, I finally ended up with the mark 18 Le petit prince. The mark goes with anything, from the original santoni strap it came with, a black alligator, canvas or even NATO. It really is a good buy. Good luck with your choice...

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z157/dualcarb/Watches/39CB1D49-5E54-4DD1-82B3-41B6A3EF31D3.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/dualcarb/media/Watches/39CB1D49-5E54-4DD1-82B3-41B6A3EF31D3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: hidden830726 on December 26, 2016, 01:13:41 AM
Since they are both using ETA movements, and assuming budget is a non issue here, I vote IWC. Nothing against Stowa, however for pure looks, IWC bags it. Stowa would be the more toolish of the two. But the mark series from IWC is something else altogether. Having previously owned two pilot chrono from IWC, 3706 and 3717, I finally ended up with the mark 18 Le petit prince. The mark goes with anything, from the original santoni strap it came with, a black alligator, canvas or even NATO. It really is a good buy. Good luck with your choice...
XVI looks win? Value is indeed an issue here.

But I have to admit. I have handled IWC before. Those watch gave a different aura. Maybe because I know their price, or maybe because of the environment, or maybe because of the strap. It's a good buy.

Personally i prefer the XVIII
 
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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: roystock on December 27, 2016, 11:54:04 AM
I prefer IWC. Top pick is mark XV, followed by mark XVI.
I think movement is just part of the package. I value the look, case design, finishing as much as, if not more than movement.
I once considered Laco and Stowa but ended with an IWC Mark XV, I just like its design better.
If budget permit, I will go for top dogs in their respective fields (Submariner for diver, calatrava for dress). In this regards, IWC pilot is, to me, the top dog in the pilot range.


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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: hidden830726 on December 27, 2016, 12:05:31 PM
I prefer IWC. Top pick is mark XV, followed by mark XVI.
I think movement is just part of the package. I value the look, case design, finishing as much as, if not more than movement.
I once considered Laco and Stowa but ended with an IWC Mark XV, I just like its design better.
If budget permit, I will go for top dogs in their respective fields (Submariner for diver, calatrava for dress). In this regards, IWC pilot is, to me, the top dog in the pilot range.


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+1 to calatrava

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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: Caseywai on December 27, 2016, 03:34:47 PM
+1 for stowa.

Cause I really can't stand IWC date placement on the new mark series. It's plain wrong for the price they are charging and shouldn't even be released with such an obvious 'flaw' in dial design IMHO


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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: asimo on December 27, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
There are many reasons people feel good wearing a certain watch (brand):-

(1) the design/type ( I think you have decided on flieger /pilot type)

(2) use (eg time /date, complications , etc) (basically you choose a basic function watch to tell time)

(3) branding/ image (some people may not care about the brand /image associated with the brand )

(4) value (this is quite subjective as those who can afford luxury watches, value probably is their last concern.. cost a few hundred Ringgit orient bambino or Seiko 5 can do the same thing )

Maybe you can look at point no 3...

Stowa is a good watch like a VW

IWC is also a good watch like a Merz..

Whether you want a VW or Merz .. up to you .. but generally most people would prefer a merz , me included ..

No right or wrong here ...


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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: agbyee on December 27, 2016, 10:30:56 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys. I agree Laco makes very good pilot watches especially the Type B ones. But owned a type A with miyota movement and it wasnt up to a German watch standard so my bet is still on those with an ETA movement.
Fully agree, Stowa is discreet and will only pull the eyes of someone who knows pilot watches to have a second glance.
IWC is more brand premium, most people would know an IWC nowadays. All 3 companies carry a strong reputation of original German pilot watches that dates back to the early 1900s.
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: hidden830726 on January 03, 2017, 09:37:53 AM
There are many reasons people feel good wearing a certain watch (brand):-

(1) the design/type ( I think you have decided on flieger /pilot type)

(2) use (eg time /date, complications , etc) (basically you choose a basic function watch to tell time)

(3) branding/ image (some people may not care about the brand /image associated with the brand )

(4) value (this is quite subjective as those who can afford luxury watches, value probably is their last concern.. cost a few hundred Ringgit orient bambino or Seiko 5 can do the same thing )

Maybe you can look at point no 3...

Stowa is a good watch like a VW

IWC is also a good watch like a Merz..

Whether you want a VW or Merz .. up to you .. but generally most people would prefer a merz , me included ..

No right or wrong here ...


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Quite true. To be fair. I started with Stowa because I can't afford a Zenith or IWC back then. Then when I have the ability, I fall back to the comfort zone and remain with Stowa.

Along the way, I learn about watches and continue to add on Stowa because that is my collection direction.

Non WIS laugh at my Stowa because they only know Rolex, Omega, IWC. Me, in the meanwhile laugh back at them because of their lack of knowledge.

Only then I realised, I have determination in me to spread the word about Stowa in Malaysia.

Its like a cult, a family thing. Apparently from my involment in Stowa forum, most of the Stowa customer act like a little brand ambassador.

To TS. have fun buying your watch. No right or wrong. I just choose to drive Honda.

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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: psychokandy on January 08, 2017, 02:44:52 PM
Personally I would prefer IWC, Laco & Stowa (in this order) for pilot watch.
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: asimo on January 09, 2017, 07:04:49 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170109/2f8ac25e924b38c37a09e1d4f75346f8.jpg)

Classic IWC pilot chrono


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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: DannyDar on January 11, 2017, 02:10:50 PM
For me I will choose iwc


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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: i1brich on February 13, 2017, 10:42:49 PM
iwc + 1 elegant


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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: Frogman on February 14, 2017, 09:25:04 AM
will go for IWC
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: Clicko on February 14, 2017, 04:32:32 PM
it has to be IWC
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: artyca on February 23, 2017, 08:18:11 PM
My Stowa Flieger 80th Jubilee LE says hello :-)
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: hidden830726 on February 24, 2017, 05:57:03 AM
My Stowa Flieger 80th Jubilee LE says hello :-)
Hello.

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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: hidden830726 on February 24, 2017, 05:59:11 AM
it has to be IWC
Off course it has to be IWC. Stowa is nothing but a low life brand.

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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: jmur3 on February 24, 2017, 06:16:28 AM
it has to be IWC
Off course it has to be IWC. Stowa is nothing but a low life brand.

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As a Stowa brand ambassador, i suppose you don't have to reply in such sarcasm ...  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: Olkuu0205 on February 24, 2017, 06:17:03 AM
Of course IWC .... I don't really mind about the movement of this two actually because nothing can't compare.. just talk brand IWC Dengar pun lain ald.. haha... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: hidden830726 on February 24, 2017, 06:23:46 AM


it has to be IWC
Off course it has to be IWC. Stowa is nothing but a low life brand.

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As a Stowa brand ambassador, i suppose you don't have to reply in such sarcasm ...  :Cheers:

Hahahhahaha. Off course everyone will go IWC if money is no consideration.

But if you only have 5k in hand.....

Wow. I'm a Stowa ambassador. Hahah

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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: jmur3 on February 24, 2017, 06:39:38 AM
There are many reasons people feel good wearing a certain watch (brand):-

(1) the design/type ( I think you have decided on flieger /pilot type)

(2) use (eg time /date, complications , etc) (basically you choose a basic function watch to tell time)

(3) branding/ image (some people may not care about the brand /image associated with the brand )

(4) value (this is quite subjective as those who can afford luxury watches, value probably is their last concern.. cost a few hundred Ringgit orient bambino or Seiko 5 can do the same thing )

Maybe you can look at point no 3...

Stowa is a good watch like a VW

IWC is also a good watch like a Merz..

Whether you want a VW or Merz .. up to you .. but generally most people would prefer a merz , me included ..

No right or wrong here ...


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Quite true. To be fair. I started with Stowa because I can't afford a Zenith or IWC back then. Then when I have the ability, I fall back to the comfort zone and remain with Stowa.

Along the way, I learn about watches and continue to add on Stowa because that is my collection direction.

Non WIS laugh at my Stowa because they only know Rolex, Omega, IWC. Me, in the meanwhile laugh back at them because of their lack of knowledge.

Only then I realised, I have determination in me to spread the word about Stowa in Malaysia.

Its like a cult, a family thing. Apparently from my involment in Stowa forum, most of the Stowa customer act like a little brand ambassador.

To TS. have fun buying your watch. No right or wrong. I just choose to drive Honda.

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don't quote me hor...  :P
Title: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: asimo on February 24, 2017, 10:58:23 AM
Time to venture out of comfort zone   embark on the journey


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Title: Re: Stowa Flieger or IWC MK XVI?
Post by: hidden830726 on February 24, 2017, 11:03:05 AM
Haha. It's just a simple rant from me back then. Will probably stop buying watches all together. Stowa also getting more and more expensive these days. Again back to the same problem. I couldn't afford.

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