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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: budakkacamata on September 14, 2016, 09:04:19 PM
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hi guys,
lately i noticed my watch somewhat running faster than before. although still within its specs ofc. no recent dinks or fall as far as i can remember. thus bring me to this theory: position of resting affects accuracy? can anyone justify this.
p/s: on side note, say i want it to regulate, where can i get it done for reasonable price? and if still under warranty, do i send back to AD?
thanks alot.
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Yes, watch accuracy is different when it resting at different position.
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If under warranty and timing is way off the specifications you should go back to the AD. If it is still within the specs, I suspect a fee would be required to do the regulation.
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Yes... that's y watch is adjusted for few positions... isn't those higher end movement engrave it how many position on it
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Cosc also tested on various position
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Yup, in different position, gravity affects the balance wheel in different ways. Hence causing the deviation in timing.
COSC standards, adjustment has to be carried out at 25'C in 6 positions: Dial Up, Dial Down, Crown Down, Crown Up, 6 o'clock side down and 12 o'clock side down. 24 hours in each position.
Furthermore, by placing your watch in the positions mentioned above can help regulate certain small changes in accuracy which occurs when wearing. AFAIK, the Rolex user manuals do mention the method.
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If under warranty and timing is way off the specifications you should go back to the AD. If it is still within the specs, I suspect a fee would be required to do the regulation.
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Anyone can verify this?
So far i have done face up and the watch is some what faster. Doing face down and will try to convey the outcome. Funny cuz it was running normally before. But i still do think its within specs but at end of spectrum.
lf i want to regulate it to local shop. How much does it cost to regulate an eta valjoux. Thanks you.
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Depending on the shop, some will insist on full overhaul + regulation, some can do regulation only.
From experience, sometimes timing accuracy can be affected by movement issues such as dried oils or dirt, only a diagnostic monitoring using timegrapher can reveal the possible causes for the accuracy problem.
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Probably just need to demagnatize your watch.
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Yes, watch accuracy is different when it resting at different position.
depend on watch
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Mind to share what is your watch brand n model?
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yes... watch brand and model varies.... i wonder which brand and model will affect time accuracy due to placement... LOL
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even if position of resting affect accuracy, I believe certain daily activity would affect lot more to our watch condition am i right?
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My watch is currently running fast during daily use. I tend to rest it crown down when not in use to balance up the rate. Usually it will be around - 3spd overnight to balance up the +6 spd during day use. Hence, my average rate is now +3 to +4 after 8 days of monitoring and still ongoing
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Is it true that position of watch affect the accuracy?
looking forward for the answer. Does it apply to all watches except those with tourbillion?
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Yes it does, when regulating a Watch they test in various positions i.e. face up, face down, crown up, crown down and face vertical. They need to get a balance that provides the most accurate setting as an average across the different positions.
This gives rise to a term called Self-Regulation. The best way to test your watch is at night, make sure the watch is fully wound, as testing with different tensions of the mainspring will affect accuracy. Sync with your iPhone (which syncs with the internet), then place the watch in the first position, for example crown up, leave all night and dont touch or move it. Check in the morning against your iPhone and note how many seconds the watch deviated, i.e. lost or gained. Do the same the next night changing the position, and so on. I normally only do 4 positions of face up, face down, crown up, crown down.
Now comes the fun part! Up until now it's purely research.
Once you are aware in which positions your timepiece gains or loses time and by what degree, you can simply check you Watch at night against your iPhone. If it's running 2 seconds fast and you know it will lose 2 seconds placing it crown down, you place it in that position and come the morning, voila, your watch is bang on time.
That, my friends, is self-regulation!
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Yes it does, when regulating a Watch they test in various positions i.e. face up, face down, crown up, crown down and face vertical. They need to get a balance that provides the most accurate setting as an average across the different positions.
This gives rise to a term called Self-Regulation. The best way to test your watch is at night, make sure the watch is fully wound, as testing with different tensions of the mainspring will affect accuracy. Sync with your iPhone (which syncs with the internet), then place the watch in the first position, for example crown up, leave all night and dont touch or move it. Check in the morning against your iPhone and note how many seconds the watch deviated, i.e. lost or gained. Do the same the next night changing the position, and so on. I normally only do 4 positions of face up, face down, crown up, crown down.
Now comes the fun part! Up until now it's purely research.
Once you are aware in which positions your timepiece gains or loses time and by what degree, you can simply check you Watch at night against your iPhone. If it's running 2 seconds fast and you know it will lose 2 seconds placing it crown down, you place it in that position and come the morning, voila, your watch is bang on time.
That, my friends, is self-regulation!
Great, I have been doing it for years. It does help in self-regulation. :thumbsup:
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You may try position it vertically towards three or nine o'clock, and crosscheck with a digital watch every morning. Thus you can tell which position is good for your watch.