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Title: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: jameswong6590 on August 29, 2016, 10:04:12 AM
Dear all,  I am debating between these two watches to purchase. Zenith El Primero is an iconic watch with lots of history. But the Zenith Pilot comes with annual calendar complication which I would like to have very much. Eventhough the Zenith Pilot watch costs more,  I don't mind the higher price. Please give me your opinion on which one to go for and why.  Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: myric on August 29, 2016, 10:47:05 AM
Zenith El Primero
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: D'Andy on August 29, 2016, 10:53:23 AM
El Primero for its iconic design and historical pedigree.
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: ck77 on August 29, 2016, 11:06:20 AM
EP but dislike the overlapping subdials


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Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: roystock on August 29, 2016, 01:21:53 PM
EP, a clear winner among these two.
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: Jedirat on August 29, 2016, 01:23:57 PM
El Primero gets my vote. For Pilot, I prefer IWC/Zenith Bronze.
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: meoramri on August 29, 2016, 01:33:45 PM
If this is your first Zenith, get the EP first
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: meoramri on August 29, 2016, 02:03:46 PM
@jameswong6590 are you the same @JW True North in watchprosite.com?

http://www.watchprosite.com/page-wf.forumpost/fi-1123/pi-7908863/ti-1078343/s-0/pzt-/ (http://www.watchprosite.com/page-wf.forumpost/fi-1123/pi-7908863/ti-1078343/s-0/pzt-/)
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: jameswong6590 on August 29, 2016, 02:06:46 PM
Yes Sir
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: phat7 on August 29, 2016, 02:17:35 PM
Agreed, if it's your first Zenith then the EP should be your first.
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: Nickmax on August 29, 2016, 03:24:37 PM
If one of the main reason you want the Pilot is because of the annual calendar complication, you may want to look for El Primero 410.
So, with that watch, you can have 2 features that you want into 1.
In fact, that is the watch I am targeting!
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: jameswong6590 on August 29, 2016, 06:59:21 PM
Which size should I go for? 42mm or 45mm El Primero?
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: meoramri on August 29, 2016, 07:44:55 PM
The 45. Due to the amount of stuff on the dial, a bigger frame is better for ease of viewing (especially if one's eyes starts to fail due to age)


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Post by: Enkidu on August 29, 2016, 08:45:23 PM
The EP 1969 38mm ("Original")

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/5bae1132-5b17-489f-88ca-b7994f5df7c3_zpsypmvqgvy.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/5bae1132-5b17-489f-88ca-b7994f5df7c3_zpsypmvqgvy.jpg.html)

The 45mm 2016 Ton-Up / Cafe Racer...

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/e6a37eaa-4283-4d26-ac2e-5dd371f8aed2_zpsiwchhm83.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/e6a37eaa-4283-4d26-ac2e-5dd371f8aed2_zpsiwchhm83.jpg.html)

The Zenith EP is still relatively affordable compared to many other brands with in-house chronograph movement..
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: adamjohari on August 30, 2016, 06:34:12 AM
The legend. The first auto Chronograph. El Primero!!!!!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: jameswong6590 on August 30, 2016, 09:57:05 AM
Thank you all so much. Is there any reason I should not buy the 42mm El Primero? Any other watches out there I should consider?
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: jameswong6590 on August 30, 2016, 10:07:14 AM
Is there a reason that I should not buy the 42mm El Primero? Any other watches out there I should also consider?  I have Submariner, Navitimer, Reverso,  Seamaster, Speedmaster,  MeisterSinger, Combat Sub,  PAM111 and Seiko Orange Monster in my collection already.
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: adamjohari on August 30, 2016, 10:07:41 AM
You know why you shouldn't buy the pilot? Cause it's an imitation of the IWC Pilot.
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: jameswong6590 on August 30, 2016, 10:08:27 AM
You know why you shouldn't buy the pilot? Cause it's an imitation of the IWC Pilot.

OK thanks
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: asimo on August 30, 2016, 03:42:11 PM
Is there a reason that I should not buy the 42mm El Primero? Any other watches out there I should also consider?  I have Submariner, Navitimer, Reverso,  Seamaster, Speedmaster,  MeisterSinger, Combat Sub,  PAM111 and Seiko Orange Monster in my collection already.

Wah, bro u have all the iconic watch in your collections...

Maybe you can add a GS, el primero, tag Monaco or Cartier Santos


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Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: adamjohari on August 30, 2016, 03:51:30 PM
Having all of the iconic watches is a good thing. But could also make your collection 'predictable'.

Switch it up a bit and have something that you like just because you like it. Not because of reviews or what people think or resale value etc. Have fun :)
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: Cocas on August 30, 2016, 04:26:10 PM
Having all of the iconic watches is a good thing. But could also make your collection 'predictable'.

Switch it up a bit and have something that you like just because you like it. Not because of reviews or what people think or resale value etc. Have fun :)

Ya right. We need some " umph " unique watch sometimes to spice up our life. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: jameswong6590 on August 30, 2016, 06:16:02 PM
You know why you shouldn't buy the pilot? Cause it's an imitation of the IWC Pilot.

OK thanks

Thank you for your suggestions.
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: roystock on August 30, 2016, 08:59:21 PM
Perhaps it is time to try up the trinity or Lange?
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: roystock on August 30, 2016, 09:08:17 PM
You know why you shouldn't buy the pilot? Cause it's an imitation of the IWC Pilot.

OK thanks

I respectively disagree with the notion that zenith Pilot is an imitation of IWC.
The history of Zenith pilot, according to these authors anyway, dated back to early 1900. Solid history.

http://watchesbysjx.com/2015/04/zeniths-history-in-pilots-watches-explained-in-five-timepieces.html
https://monochrome-watches.com/history-of-the-pilot-watch-part-ii-zenith-montre-daeronef-type-20/

That said, my choice (already voted), is EP
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: adamjohari on August 30, 2016, 09:11:49 PM
You know why you shouldn't buy the pilot? Cause it's an imitation of the IWC Pilot.

OK thanks

I respectively disagree with the notion that zenith Pilot is an imitation of IWC.
The history of Zenith pilot, according to these authors anyway, dated back to early 1900. Solid history.

http://watchesbysjx.com/2015/04/zeniths-history-in-pilots-watches-explained-in-five-timepieces.html
https://monochrome-watches.com/history-of-the-pilot-watch-part-ii-zenith-montre-daeronef-type-20/

That said, my choice (already voted), is EP

Hrmm. I stand corrected. This is what happens when you listen to your local AD. hahaha.
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: roystock on August 31, 2016, 08:33:08 PM
You know why you shouldn't buy the pilot? Cause it's an imitation of the IWC Pilot.

OK thanks

I respectively disagree with the notion that zenith Pilot is an imitation of IWC.
The history of Zenith pilot, according to these authors anyway, dated back to early 1900. Solid history.

http://watchesbysjx.com/2015/04/zeniths-history-in-pilots-watches-explained-in-five-timepieces.html
https://monochrome-watches.com/history-of-the-pilot-watch-part-ii-zenith-montre-daeronef-type-20/

That said, my choice (already voted), is EP

Hrmm. I stand corrected. This is what happens when you listen to your local AD. hahaha.

Cheers mate. Learning and sharing is the spirit here, isn't? Best.
Title: Re: Which one would you pick? Zenith El Primero vs Zenith Pilot Annual Calendar
Post by: hanz079 on September 05, 2016, 08:52:39 AM
You know why you shouldn't buy the pilot? Cause it's an imitation of the IWC Pilot.

Really? Wow... which IWC Pilot?