Post by: Sky 007 on January 15, 2016, 05:17:03 PM
Post by: kopykopy on January 15, 2016, 05:24:30 PM
1. modern interpretation of a classic and very iconic watch. some prefer this modern look and some don't
2. Iconic because James Bond wore it in some movies
3. bracelets and clasp are good compared to older submariners
3. cost almost twice as much as the moonwatch
4. will hold its value over time
Omega Speedmaster moonwatch -
1. Iconic because astronauts wore this watch to the moon.
2. Still able to buy it with a heselite glass. I think it's domed
3. more affordable than a rolex
4. it is a chronograph
5. 42 mm may be a bit big for some
6. Manual winding
Post by: Sky 007 on January 15, 2016, 05:38:27 PM
Post by: arcsaber7 on January 15, 2016, 07:38:12 PM
Rolex Submariner Ceramic -Sorry miss out the message. Really good comparisons and good info from kopykopy. It really helps you in your decision making process.
1. modern interpretation of a classic and very iconic watch. some prefer this modern look and some don't
2. Iconic because James Bond wore it in some movies
3. bracelets and clasp are good compared to older submariners
3. cost almost twice as much as the moonwatch
4. will hold its value over time
Omega Speedmaster moonwatch -
1. Iconic because astronauts wore this watch to the moon.
2. Still able to buy it will a heselite glass.
3. more affordable than a rolex
4. it is a chronograph
5. 42 mm may be a bit big for some
Post by: Gilthoniel on January 16, 2016, 06:45:54 AM
Post by: nikfs1881 on January 16, 2016, 07:04:08 AM
How about comparing it with an Omega Seamaster 300 master Co axial?
Yes moonwatch and subc are indeed very different. Subc is more comparable with the seamaster 300 coaxial. Personally, i would start with Subc and add the moonwatch later....
Post by: antoniosaprozeld on January 16, 2016, 08:04:21 AM
Agree.. thats the route i followed.. cant compare subC w any of the omega mentioned.. but once u have d subC, u must have d moonwatch next..How about comparing it with an Omega Seamaster 300 master Co axial?
Yes moonwatch and subc are indeed very different. Subc is more comparable with the seamaster 300 coaxial. Personally, i would start with Subc and add the moonwatch later....
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Post by: Shiang on January 16, 2016, 10:00:34 AM
Rolex Submariner Ceramic -
1. modern interpretation of a classic and very iconic watch. some prefer this modern look and some don't
2. Iconic because James Bond wore it in some movies
3. bracelets and clasp are good compared to older submariners
3. cost almost twice as much as the moonwatch
4. will hold its value over time
Omega Speedmaster moonwatch -
1. Iconic because astronauts wore this watch to the moon.
2. Still able to buy it with a heselite glass. I think it's domed
3. more affordable than a rolex
4. it is a chronograph
5. 42 mm may be a bit big for some
6. Manual winding
Spot on comparison. Both are great but its always great to start with a Rolex.
Post by: sshark on January 16, 2016, 06:43:20 PM
Rolex Submariner Ceramic -
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5. More precise bracelet adjustment with Rolex's Glidelock instead of half and full links options for most bracelets.
6. Ceramic bezel compare to moonwatch's aluminum bezel.
Omega Speedmaster moonwatch -
1. Iconic because astronauts wore this watch to the moon.
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That's the selected truth used in Omega marketing material. The Watch the astronauts wore to the moon was 321 not the current 1861. In fact, there was a 861 calibre in the transition from 321 to 1861 used today. IIRC, 861 was not used in moon missions but was used in spacewalk / orbit missions or probably none at all. Lemania 5100 was used in space missions by other countries.
Post by: kukujiao on January 16, 2016, 07:05:02 PM
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Post by: Timeless on January 16, 2016, 08:50:10 PM
Post by: mikelcch on January 16, 2016, 10:18:44 PM
I agree that perhaps you should get the SubC first then the Moonwatch later. There's always room for these two together.
Post by: antoniosaprozeld on January 17, 2016, 10:11:22 AM
I have both and I think I like the Omega more (but need daily winding).I'm generally lazy so definitely would turn to my hulk more..
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the moonwatch's when am feeling more energetic & sporty to wind that tiineetinyyy crown.. at the end of 50th turn, normally my fat thumb would sakit one..
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Post by: kopykopy on January 17, 2016, 12:03:22 PM
Does anyone know whether they made the Moonwatch 40mm or below? if Yes, then I will have to search for a Pre-Owned 40mm or below Moonwatch.
Post by: Sky 007 on January 17, 2016, 03:34:05 PM
Post by: adamjohari on January 17, 2016, 04:20:45 PM
Rolex sub is iconic as well. Not my cup of tea though. Unless it's a vintage one.
Should be a reason why NASA chose the speedy over Rolex :)
Post by: ck77 on January 17, 2016, 05:17:41 PM
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Post by: Narco on January 18, 2016, 09:03:42 AM
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Post by: dualcarb on January 18, 2016, 03:36:02 PM
My thoughts are these...The speedy is a classic, a true classic. Any WIS would want to have these three watches, a GS, a Speedy pro and a Rolex Sub.
I baby my GS too much when I wear it. So I tend to be extra careful and very sensitive how I swing my left arm. Bracelet is comfortable and legible dial. Zaratsu polishing makes this a work of art more than a timepiece.
My Speedy...it's nice, it's light, it's timeless and it is so legible. Comfortable bracelet. However at 42mm, a little too big for my 6 1/2 inch wrist.
Rolex SubC ND. It is just solid. just the right weight, slips under the sleeve easily. Very legible, and with the glidelock bracelet, a winner in overall comfort.
So my vote goes to the Rolex hands down. If you drove a car during my teenage years(1990's), you would compare the Rolex to a Volvo. Tough, safe, solid and you will not baby it.
Hope this helps and good luck watch hunting. My advice, try them on first and see how they feel. I know that watch shops will not size the bracelets if you don't buy their watches...look around for friends who has the watches and see if they would allow you to try them...
Patrick
Post by: alexkemaris on January 28, 2016, 04:17:54 AM
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Post by: hotshothunk on March 15, 2016, 03:24:49 PM
Post by: Ek lex on March 15, 2016, 07:29:25 PM
the moonwatch's when am feeling more energetic & sporty to wind that tiineetinyyy crown.. at the end of 50th turn, normally my fat thumb would sakit one..
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Other than the 42mm larger case, fully agree on the manual winding part, I have not owned one but tried it in the boutique, definitely not for me, ended up with a Speedy Racing at 40mm, Auto with high PR, Chronometer certified, sapphire crystal, with Date, more practical for everyday use.
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So, my vote go to the Rollie... again, I'm a practical guy, so my 2 cents worth of extra advice is to get SubC Date.
Post by: kopykopy on March 15, 2016, 08:57:07 PM
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Post by: Hope on March 15, 2016, 09:32:30 PM
Post by: ck77 on March 15, 2016, 09:43:40 PM
Can anyone weigh in on the moonwatch vs the first omega in space? My problem with moonwalk is 42mm is kinda big for my wrist. The FOIS is 39mm just right. Any comments on the FOIS? How much Mrsp is the FOIS with the leather strap? If change to steel bracelet pay how much?FOIS only comes with leather strap.
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Post by: davidtth on March 16, 2016, 07:19:40 AM
both are quite different watch i would say, the feeling are different too, and both are iconic design from its own brand
i would say go for Rolex first, and get the omega in future. reason is Rolex price will keep on increase year by year, speedy can be found pre-own easily in market
which is my pick? i love both of them equally :)
Post by: Sky 007 on March 24, 2016, 06:34:12 PM
Post by: saprozeldo on April 17, 2016, 10:56:57 AM
Off late i've been pairing my moonwatch with cheap natos.. rm40/pc.. find it fits better that the black one that came with the moonwatch.. so i bought a lot of colors.. & now i reach out for my moonwatch more than the rolex.. i think coz of the colour variety.. didnt wanna open the rolex bracelet.. so may not be an apple to aple comparison..
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Post by: Wee on April 17, 2016, 07:35:28 PM
Good luck!!!!
Post by: ericys on April 18, 2016, 11:23:12 AM
Post by: saprozeldo on April 18, 2016, 08:06:01 PM
Sorry guys a bit off topic. @saprozeldo, can you PM me the contact for cheap natos :Cheers:just went to amcorp mall bro.. a few shops has it.. i got mine @ tax seng..
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Post by: kopykopy on April 18, 2016, 08:24:55 PM
The hearts wants what the heart wants... Go to a shop with both watches available and u can tell which one u favor more. My vote goes to the Sub first, and yea i agree that u should get the sub with date... I have the poor man's moonwatch; speedy reduced Instead of the moonwatch... It does brings out a lot of character... Once again it depends on what your heart wants...IMHO, the speedy reduced and first omega in space looks nicer than the moonwatch. Moonwatch only beats the others in its history and thus is iconic.
Good luck!!!!
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Post by: Wee on April 18, 2016, 08:32:36 PM
The hearts wants what the heart wants... Go to a shop with both watches available and u can tell which one u favor more. My vote goes to the Sub first, and yea i agree that u should get the sub with date... I have the poor man's moonwatch; speedy reduced Instead of the moonwatch... It does brings out a lot of character... Once again it depends on what your heart wants...IMHO, the speedy reduced and first omega in space looks nicer than the moonwatch. Moonwatch only beats the others in its history and thus is iconic.
Good luck!!!!
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Ohh thanks, finally someone to appreciate the speedy reduced..... TS could get the sub first.. Then get the speedy reduced to see how it looks on your wrist.. Since the speedy reduced is priced relatively cheaper than the moonwatch.. The moonwatch is 44mm and it might be too big for some.. But again it's my own opinion, to each of it's own..
Post by: prime318 on April 18, 2016, 10:27:08 PM
Quality and build, the sub is just more robust and better made. Heritage and history, it's hard to beat the speedy. On the wrist aesthetics, the sub is the sportier, bolder, louder and more modern piece whilst the speedy is rather vintage and subdued. One's made for space travel and timing spaceship trajectory while the other is for illuminating the 300m abyss of the seas.
Fit and comfort, can't beat the sub. Packaging is cooler for the speedy with a nice big box and extras, unless you like green.
Sub wears larger and the moon wears smaller.
Extra notes on the speedy:
The case of the moon watch is asymmetrical from lug to lug due to the crown guard design. This bugs me a little.
Oh and you don't worry about over winding it as it stops itself when fully wound. Just don't use brute force I guess.
Both are amazing watches that i admire tonnes but I neither have them nor plan to buy them as I think there are others that skips me a heartbeat.
Post by: alexkemaris on April 19, 2016, 09:07:29 AM
Personally I think the only similarity between the sub-c and speedy moon is that they are both quintessential pieces. Other than that they are worlds apart.
Quality and build, the sub is just more robust and better made. Heritage and history, it's hard to beat the speedy. On the wrist aesthetics, the sub is the sportier, bolder, louder and more modern piece whilst the speedy is rather vintage and subdued. One's made for space travel and timing spaceship trajectory while the other is for illuminating the 300m abyss of the seas.
Fit and comfort, can't beat the sub. Packaging is cooler for the speedy with a nice big box and extras, unless you like green.
Sub wears larger and the moon wears smaller.
Extra notes on the speedy:
The case of the moon watch is asymmetrical from lug to lug due to the crown guard design. This bugs me a little.
Oh and you don't worry about over winding it as it stops itself when fully wound. Just don't use brute force I guess.
Both are amazing watches that i admire tonnes but I neither have them nor plan to buy them as I think there are others that skips me a heartbeat.
Don't be so modest my friend.
Prime318 here has a Speedy Snoopy! Amazing piece with superb heritage.
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His Snoopy on the left.
Post by: saprozeldo on April 19, 2016, 01:08:30 PM
btw, moonwatch is 44mm?? thot its either 41 or 42mm?
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Post by: lancet on April 19, 2016, 04:32:24 PM
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Post by: Wee on April 19, 2016, 08:05:57 PM