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Title: GST on imported watch
Post by: Lurch on December 08, 2015, 08:16:18 PM
need advice. i recently sent my watch to Switzerland for a warranty claim and the watch will be sent back to me sometime soon.
question, will there be GST upon collection of the watch in Malaysia?
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: sshark on December 08, 2015, 08:38:26 PM
Should not be if you prove you purchased the watch here and paid GST prior or before GST implemented.
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Lurch on December 08, 2015, 08:44:32 PM
i sent the watch via DHL who gave me a receipt showing that watch was sent for warranty claim purpose.
the watch company however will not be using DHL to send back to me.
i heard there may be GST imposed on the courier fee... but im not sure how true is that
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: sshark on December 08, 2015, 08:52:09 PM
GST is already included in your postal fees, no?
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Umeshmalani on December 08, 2015, 10:24:19 PM
You will need to pay GST on the courier fee n not the watch as its warranty claim and doesn't involve money for repairs


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Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: zjchen on December 09, 2015, 08:07:57 AM
Any goods sent out overseas for repair should qualify for gst relief when it comes back in.


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Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Timeless on December 09, 2015, 12:23:38 PM
Usually the consignment note should stated return and repair in order avoid the gst
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Lurch on December 09, 2015, 06:28:12 PM
sshark/umesh : apparently not so simple. courier fee is arranged and paid by the watch company and we might still get GST-ed on the courier fee (yes it doesnt make any sense but Malaysia really boleh)

zj/femann : by right so. but a friend recently received a parcel sample (printing ink) from his counterpart office and was GST-ed both the courier fee + cargo value eventhough he did not pay for the courier fee

shake head....

Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: sshark on December 09, 2015, 08:29:48 PM
really unhappy to hear that. that freaking shit... left right center all sapu ....
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: mikeylacroix on December 10, 2015, 12:42:06 PM
Received a used black bay yesterday via usps...n a brand new pelagos today via fedex. No fees no gst ::win::
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Lurch on December 10, 2015, 01:40:51 PM
Good to hear that mikey.
I hope I won't Kena gst as well.
Will update u guys when the time comes
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: D'Andy on December 11, 2015, 08:47:25 AM
Received a used black bay yesterday via usps...n a brand new pelagos today via fedex. No fees no gst ::win::

Hi Mikey, what did the sellers declare on the description of the packages? I had been lucky with 2 Tuna gifts from an overseas friend (declared as presents) and a couple of straps (declared as watch straps with the actual value, but no GST imposed); but had been thinking twice about getting another Tuna from an overseas shop. Would like to sample your case. Cheers.
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: mikeylacroix on December 11, 2015, 01:23:43 PM
Received a used black bay yesterday via usps...n a brand new pelagos today via fedex. No fees no gst ::win::

Hi Mikey, what did the sellers declare on the description of the packages? I had been lucky with 2 Tuna gifts from an overseas friend (declared as presents) and a couple of straps (declared as watch straps with the actual value, but no GST imposed); but had been thinking twice about getting another Tuna from an overseas shop. Would like to sample your case. Cheers.
Precision instrument is the default.
(Can asked to write used if via private sale)

They will call to confirm what it is..thats when u confirm its a used item. Can provide a link or something then via email if possible.

A lowered declared value + above description will get u out of strife most of the time
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: D'Andy on December 11, 2015, 02:02:18 PM
Received a used black bay yesterday via usps...n a brand new pelagos today via fedex. No fees no gst ::win::

Hi Mikey, what did the sellers declare on the description of the packages? I had been lucky with 2 Tuna gifts from an overseas friend (declared as presents) and a couple of straps (declared as watch straps with the actual value, but no GST imposed); but had been thinking twice about getting another Tuna from an overseas shop. Would like to sample your case. Cheers.
Precision instrument is the default.
(Can asked to write used if via private sale)

They will call to confirm what it is..thats when u confirm its a used item. Can provide a link or something then via email if possible.

A lowered declared value + above description will get u out of strife most of the time

Gotcha. Thanks, mate  :Cheers:
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: chrisyen on December 11, 2015, 02:40:48 PM
Watches back from repair
All u need is to submit your sending out record

FedEx asked for that

And it's clear after they shown custom

Or your repair invoice
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: D'Andy on December 13, 2015, 06:06:44 AM
Just ordered a Swiss piece and the moment I chose the country under MY, the 6% tax appeared under the invoice. Tried another country to deliver to and the tax got taken off, but then I need to trouble a friend to send over to me so it would be more work. Ended up paying another few hundred for the GST.
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: mikeylacroix on December 13, 2015, 07:33:49 AM
Just ordered a Swiss piece and the moment I chose the country under MY, the 6% tax appeared under the invoice. Tried another country to deliver to and the tax got taken off, but then I need to trouble a friend to send over to me so it would be more work. Ended up paying another few hundred for the GST.
Which website was this dude?
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: D'Andy on December 15, 2015, 07:35:08 PM
It's from Ball.
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: mikeylacroix on December 16, 2015, 04:32:45 AM
It's from Ball.
Official ball?or AD?
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: nikfs1881 on December 16, 2015, 04:54:36 AM

It's from Ball.
Official ball?or AD?

I believe andy is referring to the official ball,

See this thread:

http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php?topic=15894


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Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: DDDW on December 22, 2015, 07:51:31 PM
Yes we have to pay 6% GST. Would it still worth to purchase oversea?
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Cubex01 on December 26, 2015, 01:40:06 PM
Do we still charged with GST even if we bought it with personal like from E-bay?
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Dexter Morgan on December 27, 2015, 07:34:33 PM
Hi,

i also "kena" a notice by Jabatan Kastam. Not sure how much i need to pay as i recall watch is exempted from import duty. Hopefully just the stinking 6% gst. I was using EMS and the shipment is from Japan.  :Blue: :mooning:
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Cubex01 on December 27, 2015, 08:34:11 PM
I just dont understand why they even charged for oversea online sale. This is so stupid. I dont think other European country did this too. But as me living in Moscow, their gst 16% but none charged to online shopping (non-russian state)


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Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: chrisyen on December 28, 2015, 02:02:57 PM
Anything above rm500 will trigger gst import

6%

Unless u let runner to handle for u
Msia ada jln !!!

Last mth I paid near rm6k for a watch ordered by customer

Full declare
Full gst
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: nikfs1881 on December 28, 2015, 03:52:05 PM

I just dont understand why they even charged for oversea online sale. This is so stupid. I dont think other European country did this too. But as me living in Moscow, their gst 16% but none charged to online shopping (non-russian state)


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AFAIK, all EU countries, UK and switzerland imposed VAT for online purchases, except for a few exempted items like books.... So, no surprises.


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Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: mikeylacroix on December 28, 2015, 08:24:25 PM
^^VAT only for purchases to within the EU. None outside of EU. Including online purchases.
Title: GST on imported watch
Post by: nikfs1881 on December 29, 2015, 03:21:37 AM
^^VAT only for purchases to within the EU. None outside of EU. Including online purchases.

Yes i was talking in the context of the european resident buying stuffs online abroad even from Malaysia, we (the european countries resident) will be imposed with VAT too, ie. Responding to cubex01 post saying it's unreasonable for Malaysian custom to impose GST for online purchase for importation to Malaysia...

Of course, i agree ....as you rightly pointed out, if the EU resident bought items online for consumption within EU they will be levied with 19-22pct VAT. On the other hand, if Malaysian purchased an item from EU countries online for consumption outside EU, the 19-22 pct VAT will be exempted but the MAlaysian buyer SHOULD be charged with Malaysian GST (by law) if those online purchases are imported to Malaysia......for consumption in Malaysia.....




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Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: keanewoon on December 29, 2015, 12:44:17 PM

^^VAT only for purchases to within the EU. None outside of EU. Including online purchases.

Yes i was talking in the context of the european resident buying stuffs online abroad even from Malaysia, we (the european countries resident) will be imposed with VAT too, ie. Responding to cubex01 post saying it's unreasonable for Malaysian custom to impose GST for online purchase for importation to Malaysia...

Of course, i agree ....as you rightly pointed out, if the EU resident bought items online for consumption within EU they will be levied with 19-22pct VAT. On the other hand, if Malaysian purchased an item from EU countries online for consumption outside EU, the 19-22 pct VAT will be exempted but the MAlaysian buyer SHOULD be charged with Malaysian GST (by law) if those online purchases are imported to Malaysia......for consumption in Malaysia.....




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True that. Vat/gst basically is consumption tax. The tax is levied at where you consume the product.


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Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Boeing on December 29, 2015, 03:40:21 PM
So I purchase locally and consume oversea eliglble to waive gst? Seem doesn't work that way either  :Confused:
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: keanewoon on December 29, 2015, 05:05:28 PM

So I purchase locally and consume oversea eliglble to waive gst? Seem doesn't work that way either  :Confused:

You are right too. But detax is not applicable to local residents. That is one of the rule. Every vat country practice that.


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Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Dexter Morgan on December 30, 2015, 07:23:29 AM
so i manage to retrieve my watch from the Unit Tahanan Kastam yesterday but the experience was a funny one.
As usual my ebay guy declared the value of the item to be lower than the amount paid via Paypal but still > RM500 and hence my item kena tahan. Upon collection, the officer there asked for invoice or proof of amount paid and i didn't bring any. To my surprise the office asked me to log on to my Paypal acc using the PC in the office to show him proof of the amount paid. BUSTED !!!

Next the officer started calculating the ACTUAL amount of tax based on my paypal statement and also started asking me to unbox the item to show him the item. The minute he saw the watch, he turned very friendly and he told me that he is also an avid fan of japanese watches and started helping me out in reducing the amount of gst. He immediately thought of using the postage stated amount as the actual value i got a huge discount. I walked out the office with my new watch smiling. Must be my lucky day.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Nutralife on December 30, 2015, 08:22:37 AM
Ooh. Lucky you. Did he ask for anything extra?
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: sshark on December 30, 2015, 08:06:50 PM
They should not use the value stated in the postage if they found higher and more trustworthy  transaction amount. must be your damn lucky day  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: chrisyen on January 08, 2016, 06:31:43 AM
so i manage to retrieve my watch from the Unit Tahanan Kastam yesterday but the experience was a funny one.
As usual my ebay guy declared the value of the item to be lower than the amount paid via Paypal but still > RM500 and hence my item kena tahan. Upon collection, the officer there asked for invoice or proof of amount paid and i didn't bring any. To my surprise the office asked me to log on to my Paypal acc using the PC in the office to show him proof of the amount paid. BUSTED !!!

Next the officer started calculating the ACTUAL amount of tax based on my paypal statement and also started asking me to unbox the item to show him the item. The minute he saw the watch, he turned very friendly and he told me that he is also an avid fan of japanese watches and started helping me out in reducing the amount of gst. He immediately thought of using the postage stated amount as the actual value i got a huge discount. I walked out the office with my new watch smiling. Must be my lucky day.  :Cheers:

thats tax money belongs to every msian, damn! give me back my money!  :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Dexter Morgan on January 12, 2016, 09:14:17 AM
 :Cheers:
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Lurch on January 23, 2016, 11:46:05 AM
Just to update, my watch is arriving Malaysia and probably due for collection this Wednesday
Will keep u guys posted on the outcome
Title: Re: GST on imported watch
Post by: Lurch on January 29, 2016, 09:52:46 AM
I collected my watch from Fedex today after it was held by customs for 4 days
They attempted to charge gst for it (both value and freight) but after numerous calls and
presentation of documents they agreed to release it without any charges.

What u need in case this happens to u

1/ keep the original airway bill stating u sent the watch overseas for claims/repair
2/ ensure watch's serial number is indicated in the awb
3/ ask for a document acknowledgement by customs that watch is sent for repair and will be returned back (courier co will provide)
4/ once watch is repaired and on its way back, present these documents to the appointed courier co

I'm just glad pink lips didn't get my gst this round...  :Cheers: