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Title: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: tztong on December 01, 2015, 09:44:09 PM
Im from malaysia planning to get my first rolex watch, i asked price in the hour glass the garden, there is a stock for Green submariner- the hulk. Selling at premium 35k

Any store which can have better price? Is it a good time to purchase the watch now as the depreciation of RM is too.......
is it worth to buy a rolex watch? the depreciation of rolex watch seems also quite serious.

Thank you for you precious opinions.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: mikeylacroix on December 02, 2015, 03:48:10 AM
buy what u like
like what u buy
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Narco on December 02, 2015, 05:19:26 AM
Mikey said it RIGHT.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: CKL1213 on December 02, 2015, 07:42:34 AM
"Rolex Sub price increase since 1953"

buy NOW
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: D'Andy on December 02, 2015, 11:31:57 AM
buy what u like
like what u buy

Mikey got that Right to the very Tee. In any case, Rolex is as good as cash in most countries, if you ever had an urgent need for cash (just saying). Can't say the same for other watches, although some could cost as high as or higher than Rolex, thanks to the latter's marketing, branding and history. So buying a Rolex makes good sense actually IMHO; plus the 116610LV is considered as a more premium SubD compared to the LN, so you can't stray too wrong with the choice.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Timeless on December 02, 2015, 12:44:00 PM
grab it while affordable
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Kesharoo on December 02, 2015, 02:02:29 PM
Hi,

I thot the hulk with premium comes to about 40k, at least that's what was quoted to me at 2 ADs. So 35k seems ok to me.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: nikfs1881 on December 02, 2015, 03:43:46 PM
My goodness, 40k?? 35k can already be considered as a bit steep for the Rolex Hulk but 40k??..... Prices for imported luxury items in Malaysia are really getting non-sensical! But, i agree with mikey, buy it for rm35k if you really like it....


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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: antoniosaprozeld on December 02, 2015, 04:30:36 PM
I'd say 35k is a good deal coming from AD at this particular moment

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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: asimo on December 02, 2015, 06:37:12 PM

 the price of rolex keep increasing every year, just buy at the time you think you are ready for it.. and never look back..

you are a lucky guy, to have budget of RM35K for 1st rolex  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: CKL1213 on December 03, 2015, 07:44:50 AM
if not mistaken LV RRP at RM 37,040

your AD give you RM 35,000 then buy it lor
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Conscript on December 03, 2015, 07:48:10 AM
Grab it before its gone  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Kent3888 on December 03, 2015, 08:07:17 AM
116610LV is a good choice IMO, it looks better on fairer skin person, I have dark skin n it doesnt look nice on me, or it's just me  :o
Wish I could get the hulk for my wife  :Praying:
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: keanewoon on December 03, 2015, 10:00:16 AM
35k more like the price before the price increased


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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Kent3888 on December 03, 2015, 11:19:08 AM
I also don't think current AD price is 35k.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: tztong on December 03, 2015, 10:21:36 PM
thanks for all the comment. seems like i should just go for it. Yes i get from my AD at 35k. was struggling before of this, but you seems like saying the price at 35k is too cheap.. LOL then i shall really go for it before it is too late.. ahaha
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Kent3888 on December 03, 2015, 10:32:27 PM
Mind to PM me which AD gave you this price?   :Praying:
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: CKL1213 on December 04, 2015, 06:06:16 AM
Yeah let us know which AD, sharing is caring, we might as well drop by the AD to make sure the LV is safe and not being bought by other people
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Frogman on December 04, 2015, 06:41:25 AM
Seems like is grey dealer price.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Kent3888 on December 04, 2015, 06:52:01 AM
Yeah let us know which AD, sharing is caring, we might as well drop by the AD to make sure the LV is safe and not being bought by other people

LOL..... we help to secure it first better than drop it other hands
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: blue605 on December 04, 2015, 10:32:15 AM
the price is still worth to get it
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Conscript on December 04, 2015, 12:25:39 PM
Sharing is caring  :police: , do share the pics here once u get it . :Cheers:
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: dennis.T on December 04, 2015, 04:26:28 PM
buy what u like
like what u buy
Cant agreed more... :thumbsup:
do not treat this as investment..you tend to lose easily 10%-20% once u step out the shop regardless whatever brands. just buy what sing to you. enjoy your journey..
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: ahmadabhamid on December 05, 2015, 04:40:56 AM
Think of it as an investment. Not other brands though. With Rolex you can be assured of a terrific resale value. I bought a 15 yr old Oyster Perpetual Date for RM 9k. That is 50% off brand new price after 15 years.

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Title: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: keanewoon on December 05, 2015, 10:19:06 AM
Dropped by at an ad in kl. blnr n lv sell at premium 37k+ each. Deepsea blue no stock.


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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: tztong on December 07, 2015, 08:42:34 PM
hehe no problem for sharing. Just placed the deposit when get the watch will share the photos and AD location together. Cheers! Thank for all the comment!
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Kent3888 on December 07, 2015, 09:06:59 PM
hehe no problem for sharing. Just placed the deposit when get the watch will share the photos and AD location together. Cheers! Thank for all the comment!

Yes, pls share  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: keanewoon on December 07, 2015, 09:57:53 PM

hehe no problem for sharing. Just placed the deposit when get the watch will share the photos and AD location together. Cheers! Thank for all the comment!

Why not buy straight? Need to wait for stock to arrive?

Any extra charge on payment by credit card?


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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: tztong on December 15, 2015, 06:35:25 AM
yes bought straight but need wait for stock to arrive.. pay by cash, but don't think have any charges on credit card.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: saafar on December 15, 2015, 05:22:23 PM
After forex, I think I can get it for RM33K in Saudi Arabia.... but green is not my cuppa tea  ;)
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: keanewoon on December 15, 2015, 08:06:24 PM

After forex, I think I can get it for RM33K in Saudi Arabia.... but green is not my cuppa tea  ;)

Good price but got stock? How about batman?


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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: saafar on December 15, 2015, 10:38:54 PM
Batman now about Rm36300... Got stock, plenty. Arabs like more bling2, they dont buy steel  :P
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Omnipotent on December 16, 2015, 05:51:45 AM
thanks for sharing! now we know where to hunt for SS Sports Rolex  :laugh:
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: keanewoon on December 16, 2015, 09:07:15 AM

Batman now about Rm36300... Got stock, plenty. Arabs like more bling2, they dont buy steel  :P

The price. Ouch!!!


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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: volks2 on December 16, 2015, 09:19:06 AM
I am also interested to buy the Batman, any AD in Msia can give good discount on Batman?
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Omnipotent on December 16, 2015, 12:04:33 PM
I am also interested to buy the Batman, any AD in Msia can give good discount on Batman?

consider yourself lucky if you find an AD that sells it at RRP, let alone with discount!
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: keanewoon on December 16, 2015, 02:25:40 PM

I am also interested to buy the Batman, any AD in Msia can give good discount on Batman?

consider yourself lucky if you find an AD that sells it at RRP, let alone with discount!

Do you know the rrp? Went to one AD but they reluctant to tell me the rrp thus i dont ask further. They have a goreng stock at 37.5k


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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: reventon on December 21, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
Just now went to times square and saw few batman on shelves 6th floor. Forgot the shop name but priced at 36500.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: keanewoon on December 21, 2015, 09:42:45 PM

Just now went to times square and saw few batman on shelves 6th floor. Forgot the shop name but priced at 36500.

Brand new?


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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: reventon on December 22, 2015, 12:06:11 AM
Should be brand new
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: tztong on December 22, 2015, 06:21:54 AM
got my hulk yesterday :D but don't know how to share the photo here =__=
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: ck77 on December 22, 2015, 12:03:55 PM
got my hulk yesterday :D but don't know how to share the photo here =__=
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php?topic=1228.0
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: tztong on January 03, 2016, 11:03:08 PM
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff25/tztong/12391397_10153771249724598_1023519439384174622_n.jpg)
here it go!
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Shiang on January 04, 2016, 06:22:13 AM
Congrats  ;)
A solid piece.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Omnipotent on January 04, 2016, 08:49:22 AM
congrats! the Hulk was my first rolex too and still gives me goosebumps whenever i take it out from my safe  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: jf98 on January 05, 2016, 10:22:50 AM
Congrats. Grabbed it at a good price..Rolex boutique here has one left too, RM37,500.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: theseira on January 05, 2016, 06:57:44 PM
 :thumbsup:

Congrats!
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: yusszzxx on January 07, 2016, 11:44:07 AM
Which AD can offer the best price?
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: rimahsum on March 08, 2016, 09:15:18 PM
Don't buy watches for investment. If you buy a Rolex because you want to sell it, that means you hate the watch. When I buy a watch, I'm keeping it till the day I die. If I decide to sell it, its because I find it as a piece of crap watch. Why would you want to buy a watch, Rolex or anything else, to just sell it? Would you do the same with your wife?

Anyways good choice on the Green Hulk.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Harry33 on March 08, 2016, 10:00:12 PM
I won't go to the extent to say I'll keep every watch till I expire. I'd equate it to buying cars. U either upgrade to a higher model or u at least keep up to the latest generation of the same model.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: kygan711 on March 09, 2016, 03:41:32 AM
On my own experience, when I purchase my watch I bought the model which i like and not what is popular.

I taught I am gonna keep this with me for long time.

After joining this forum and learning more each day, somehow it changed my view and appreciation of the watch I bought. So I have joined the bandwagon to upgrade my watch or if you have more funds start a collection.

So can't say I can wear a watch for life now as I learn to appreciate the aesthetics and functional features of the watches which could be past models and not necessarily new ones.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: AbbasHabshee on March 09, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
Congrats! Playing around with the sunburst dial under the sun light is quite interesting ;)
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: kopykopy on March 09, 2016, 09:18:09 AM
Wow, judging from this thread as well as thread on other watch forums, the rolexes which gets the most mentions are BLNR, Hulk, Sea Dweller, Deepsea Blue.  Have those watches overtaken the Submariner as the most sought after Rolex? 
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Jedirat on March 09, 2016, 11:11:25 AM
Rolex Hulk is a good and trendy watch, IMHO, suitable for both sport and dressy purpose. It was my first Rolex as well. Since then, I have collected another 2 Rolex and made my collection to 3. They are Batman, Pepsi and Hulk. I don't think I am going to sell them but most probably will keep them and pass on to my son.. :Cheers:

Please continue to share your story if you have add new watches to your collection.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Mikey C. on March 09, 2016, 01:48:30 PM
Buy it now! Rolex price increase every year
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Jedirat on March 09, 2016, 02:01:06 PM
Buy it now! Rolex price increase every year

They have increased the price last year due to weakening RM. Don't think this year will increase again since RM is more stable now compared to 2015.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: kopykopy on March 09, 2016, 02:09:54 PM
Now is always the best time to buy a rolex. I don't think the price of a rolex has ever gone down whether good or bad economy. Whether strong or weak ringgit. And by the way I don't think I have seen an AD sell the hulk for less then rm35k

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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Jedirat on March 09, 2016, 02:31:04 PM
Buy when you are ready to buy and there is a purpose to buy. Importantly you must have the necessary fund to buy the watch you like. We don't have a crystal ball to predict the price movement, whether it will be up or down in the near future.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: WatchW on March 10, 2016, 08:42:39 AM
Hulk and Batman goes for a premium in most part of Asia. We are easily paying 10-15% higher than the listed price - regardless if we go to AD or Grey Dealers.

Rolex doesn't stop AD from charging a premium and Rolex "under-stock" the ADs. So, the ADs happily charge premium on the hot models. This is very smart on Rolex part. It's brilliant brand marketing and this is just one of the reason why Rolex remains the most collectible luxury timepiece in the world.

When you buy a Rolex, you don't buy just a watch. You enter into another currency. It's somewhat like "buying gold". You convert your money into the "Rolex currency". And this currency appreciates over time!
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: chiewata on March 11, 2016, 09:01:07 PM
Just to share my experience,  when I bought DSSD when its first available from parallel importer I pay super premium at 27k,  now DSSD is almost 40k

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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: chiewata on March 11, 2016, 09:03:03 PM
Anyway congratz on ur purchase and enjoy it

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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Harry33 on March 12, 2016, 01:35:47 AM
Each year and or with each new model, the price increases but doesn't help much in terms of increasing or retaining the value of the old ones.
Title: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: WatchW on March 12, 2016, 05:26:58 AM
Each year and or with each new model, the price increases but doesn't help much in terms of increasing or retaining the value of the old ones.

Not all models/references will appreciate in the same proportion of value.

For some references, however, the appreciation is pretty amazing.

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Take for example, Rolex ref 16710 GMT Master II in year 2000 priced at MYR 14,000/-.

Mint condition today (16 years later) could go as high as MYR 26,000/-.

This works out to be a compounded growth of about 4% per annum for last 16 years.

That's like putting your money away in FD, but you get to enjoy a beautiful iconic watch.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: kygan711 on March 12, 2016, 06:57:17 AM
In absolute amount it looks and feels great. Only 4% compounded annually, looks not too great already. Many find many other easier options to replace unless you enjoy the watch and not focus more on investment.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: kopykopy on March 12, 2016, 10:14:19 AM
Each year and or with each new model, the price increases but doesn't help much in terms of increasing or retaining the value of the old ones.

Not all models/references will appreciate in the same proportion of value.

For some references, however, the appreciation is pretty amazing.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160312/f8eff790a839ab46f239daac24656a20.jpg)

Take for example, Rolex ref 16710 GMT Master II in year 2000 priced at MYR 14,000/-.

Mint condition today (16 years later) could go as high as MYR 26,000/-.

This works out to be a compounded growth of about 4% per annum for last 16 years.

That's like putting your money away in FD, but you get to enjoy a beautiful iconic watch.
I am no expert in rolex used prices but what you described sounds good to be true (to me at least). I have no intention of doubting you but what you described, I don't think even a submariner can get that.

Can a 16 year old Pepsi/Coke sell for rm26k now? Is it because it has been discontinued

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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: deriku on March 12, 2016, 11:49:34 AM
I doubt used GMT2 can fetch such a high price >20k. Unless it's a full package NOS.


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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: ck77 on March 12, 2016, 12:03:39 PM
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Title: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: WatchW on March 12, 2016, 12:06:40 PM
It starts at 22-24k now. And some even without paper.

25-26k is a premium price if watch condition is pristine and comes in full set.

Watch is discontinued and hard to find in pre-owned market. So when a good piece comes along, it's "willing buyer, willing seller" price.

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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Harry33 on March 12, 2016, 02:14:12 PM
Certain models of 86, Type R, Birkins and even Lego fetch premium prices in the resale market due to exclusivity & rarity but that doesn't mean all runs from the same mill will command the same high value.  ::)
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: deriku on March 12, 2016, 02:54:27 PM
Wow that's something new to me. Approaching and even exceeding used 116710 prices.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: kopykopy on March 12, 2016, 03:14:43 PM
Well.... That's what the Seller is asking for. Any takers or not?

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Title: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: WatchW on March 12, 2016, 04:55:10 PM
Another case study would be the Rolex 1675 GMT Master.

In 1986, the Rolex 1675 GMT Master retailed at around MYR 4,100/-.

30 years later, the price for 1675 in mint condition with box and papers can go up to MYR 40,000.

This works out to be about 7.9% compounded growth rate per annum.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160312/e6f0d9652ce0a38163660fff52f21b30.jpg)

Brothers, I am not trying to imply that buying Rolex is a financial wealth planning vehicle.

It's still a watch that we are buying at the end of the day. We shouldn't expect to "make money" buying watches.

I am merely pointing out a fact that, indeed, for certain models, Rolex does appreciate quite decently in value over time.

There are many more case study. If you guys like, I can start a new thread to showcase more examples.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: kopykopy on March 12, 2016, 07:54:23 PM
I guess it's just down to luck that a particular model you bought 20 years ago now fetches a high price. You wouldn't have known at that time you bought it.  It doesn't happen for every 20 year old model. 

However, buyers of current models will not be so lucky cause I doubt any current models of rolex now will escalate tremendously in price in 20 years (except due to normal inflation) because any rolex models now are produced a dime a dozen.  Even for the short run (and hence limited numbers in the wild) Day Date 2 (41mm), would you dare say it's surely a high priced item in 20 years?

A Year 1980 Rolex in Year 2010 (30 years old) is different from a Year 2010 Rolex in Year 2040 (also 30 years old).  Unless WW3 happens and a majority of Rolexes get wiped off the face of the earth, then it will be different  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: niteowl on March 13, 2016, 07:09:09 PM
On Rolex prices, my take is it is so high now because of our very weak currency. I have been following and for  16710, in general it hovers around the USD 5K-6K mark, depending on condition and completeness.

And for new models or pre owned models sold through ADs or Gray Dealers, GST also drives the price up.

What is more interesting is if the currency drops, will the ADs or local gray market do the same?


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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Jedirat on March 14, 2016, 08:07:50 AM
On Rolex prices, my take is it is so high now because of our very weak currency. I have been following and for  16710, in general it hovers around the USD 5K-6K mark, depending on condition and completeness.

And for new models or pre owned models sold through ADs or Gray Dealers, GST also drives the price up.

What is more interesting is if the currency drops, will the ADs or local gray market do the same?


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Don't think the AD/local gray market will reduce the price even our currency is stronger. A premium will still be asked for hot/popular Rolex model, IMHO.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: nikfs1881 on March 15, 2016, 05:29:27 AM

I guess it's just down to luck that a particular model you bought 20 years ago now fetches a high price. You wouldn't have known at that time you bought it.  It doesn't happen for every 20 year old model. 

However, buyers of current models will not be so lucky cause I doubt any current models of rolex now will escalate tremendously in price in 20 years (except due to normal inflation) because any rolex models now are produced a dime a dozen.  Even for the short run (and hence limited numbers in the wild) Day Date 2 (41mm), would you dare say it's surely a high priced item in 20 years?

A Year 1980 Rolex in Year 2010 (30 years old) is different from a Year 2010 Rolex in Year 2040 (also 30 years old).  Unless WW3 happens and a majority of Rolexes get wiped off the face of the earth, then it will be different  :Laughing_on_floor:

In the word of the Great Joker: Why so serious?

True WIS don't view watches as hedging/investment instruments anyway...if it does appreciate in value, then great! If not, who cares - just staring at the collection gives the WIS an orgasm already!



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Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Jedirat on March 15, 2016, 08:19:36 AM

I guess it's just down to luck that a particular model you bought 20 years ago now fetches a high price. You wouldn't have known at that time you bought it.  It doesn't happen for every 20 year old model. 

However, buyers of current models will not be so lucky cause I doubt any current models of rolex now will escalate tremendously in price in 20 years (except due to normal inflation) because any rolex models now are produced a dime a dozen.  Even for the short run (and hence limited numbers in the wild) Day Date 2 (41mm), would you dare say it's surely a high priced item in 20 years?

A Year 1980 Rolex in Year 2010 (30 years old) is different from a Year 2010 Rolex in Year 2040 (also 30 years old).  Unless WW3 happens and a majority of Rolexes get wiped off the face of the earth, then it will be different  :Laughing_on_floor:

In the word of the Great Joker: Why so serious?

True WIS don't view watches as hedging/investment instruments anyway...if it does appreciate in value, then great! If not, who cares - just staring at the collection gives the WIS an orgasm already!



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Well said, bro. I have more than 10 pieces but I viewed them as my collection and so far no intention to sell them. I wear all of them on rotation basis and investment instrument never appear in my mind ever. Dare not to say I am a die hard WIS but appreciate each piece of watches that I have.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: hotshothunk on March 15, 2016, 03:19:22 PM
The hulk is pretty amasing. try getting a used watch in good condition
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: Jedirat on March 15, 2016, 03:58:25 PM
The hulk is pretty amasing. try getting a used watch in good condition

I have one. Change the original steel strap to a Rubber B strap. Love it.
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: akykmy on March 25, 2016, 11:34:12 AM
i had a former colleague who had a hulk and at that time is was a bit "meh" for me in terms of colour... but it has grown on me and i must say that it is now imo on of the nicest sub models
Title: Re: Planning to get my first rolex
Post by: herng0326 on March 27, 2016, 10:40:49 AM
RM35k is a good deal. They quoted me RM35.5k