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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: roystock on September 26, 2015, 10:23:51 PM
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I came across this discussion in Worn & Wound - what watch just doesn't do it for you and why.
I think it is a very entertaining topic. We often talk about what we like, but never (or hardly) talk about what we don't. I guess we are all polite bunch and giving negative comments is not part of our culture.
But this time, let's have some fun. No flaming or overly harsh comment though. =)
http://wornandwound.com/2015/09/08/ww-round-table-13-what-watch-just-doesnt-do-it-for-you-and-why/
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I wouldn't give new names but surprisingly, I agree with most of the editors' picks
- Tudor Black Bay - I don't like it. I don't like the faux patina, the thickness, the artificial looking strap and the burgundy bezel. I do, however, quite like the Midnight Blue version, which fixed most of these issues.
- IWC Mark XVII - I bought one before GST simply because I needed to buy something. I sold it after 2-3 hours of wrist time. Enough said.
- Grand Seiko - I always wanted a GS but felt lukewarm when I tried them on. And I wasn't ready to pay the market price for a new piece. That changed when I saw the SBGA 125. It was love at first sight and I committed to buy one within an hour. =)
- Hublot - This is an easy target, I shall skip it
- APRO - I have one, but I wouldn't say I LOVE it. I prefer Vacheron Constantin Overseas
- Nautilus - it is, to me, overrated. Yes, I can't afford it, but I am not sour grape. I tried it on, it just doesn't speak to me.
- Seiko Monster / Diver - no opinion
- Omega Seamaster 300 - I agree with the writer's view, hands down. I dislike almost everything about the skeleton hand, round marker version shown. I had a sword hand, rectangular dial markers version for a while. I quite like it, but I still sold it because I cant stand the "scalloped bezel".
Surprisingly, there were no mention of Rolex at all :)
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First thing come to my mind - Skeleton watch.... whether full skeleton or open heart, any brand, cant accept having it all shown like that...
Seiko Monster / Tuna / Marine prospex etc also dont do for me, cant really understand why its hot.
No Hublot and Invicta, Steinhart - perception problem
IWC, couldnt love it.
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Personally, I'm not particularly a fan of watches that are too flashy and loud. Like full yellow gold watches or watches with diamonds. And speaking of Rolex, not a fan of their Skydweller models.
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oh, another one come to my mind.
I wonder this quick a while, owner dont kill me.. personal preference
Tudor Fastrider Blackshield, especially the Black version, it looks cool with the Motor ad, but look so meh and toyish
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Designer brand watches like mont blanc, Hermes, LV etc
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Grand Seiko. Based on the models i have seen and handle at the dealers, there is an overall underwhelming sense and I really wanted to share in the enthusiasm of current owners as well. Most likely I was swept by the enthusiasm and reviews of owners on different watch fora. That said, I have not seen nor handled the Snowflake, the only Grand Seiko I really want to own, and my opinions may change then. But for now, this is a brand that really puzzles me.
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Grand Seiko. Based on the models i have seen and handle at the dealers, there is an overall underwhelming sense and I really wanted to share in the enthusiasm of current owners as well. Most likely I was swept by the enthusiasm and reviews of owners on different watch fora. That said, I have not seen nor handled the Snowflake, the only Grand Seiko I really want to own, and my opinions may change then. But for now, this is a brand that really puzzles me.
I was in a similar position. When I failed to get the "kick" from snowflake, I thought I am done with the brand.
Then fortunately, or unfortunately, I came across the Blizzard, a relative of snowflake
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Hi Roy thanx for sharing the review, it is fun and exciting to read.
I like Seiko watch but I am not into Grand Seiko, dont know why just doesnt do it for me. :Confused:
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Gold and skeleton designs are not in my league
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My barrel shaped Orient CEZAD005T Brown... ;p
I think Rolex watches do have better pleasant look and less hated, haha.
BTW, Tudor Black Bay is not for everyone.
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Was interesting, however when I had a look at the overall contents of the website, I concluded that I can't take this editors opinion seriously because the site is mainly tailored towards lower end of the watch market.
Having said that here are my opinions:
1) Tudor Black Bay - this is a respectable piece and way better than most if not all the watches contained in the worn&wound's brand section. If they released "only watch version" as standard in their collection it would be game over.
2) IWC MKXVII - not much experience on this model, for this brand I would go Big Pilot
3) Grand Seiko - some high quality pieces in their collection. I quote this from the editor of W&W:
"Look at it this way, if a rich uncle gave you 5K that “must be spent” on a watch, would you run out and buy a Five Grand Seiko? As for me, I’d buy two Sinns or maybe one Sinn and a Nomos"
All I can say here is I would rather buy the Grand Seiko if I am put in this situation.
4) Hublot - not much to say here, I'd stay away.
5) Royal Oak and Nautilus - The editor does not get it. I guess he love his Sinn and Nomos, I will stick to AP and PP. TYVM.
6) Seiko - no comment here
7) Omega 300 - might be good value, who knows. The only omega I would get is a SMP
And to conclude the watch that does not do it for me are mostly listed in worn and wound's brand page. here http://wornandwound.com/brands/
In my opinion most of these pieces have no value or collectability.
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Rolex GMT IIc - wanted it. Tried it on. Went for the Sub C instead. Dial and Bezel looks too busy. Lugs too small. And no glidelock.
Omega PO 8500 - was lusting for it. Tried it on at the boutique and the feelings were gone in an instant. Pull the trigger on an AT8500 instead. The PO looks like it will not age well. AT will keep its looks better in the long run. Teak dial looks better in person..
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1. Fashion brands timepieces - LV, Ralph Lauren, Hermes etc
2. Hublot
3. Skeleton
4. Timepieces with too much blings
5. Yellow gold timepieces
6. Anything larger than 45mm - some are getting to be just plain ridiculous don't you think?
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Noticed many say no to Hublot
I thought Hublots are kinda nice, no?
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For me, the Zenith el primero range was one that ticked all the boxes on paper, but in real life - just didn't do it for me. Probably due to the case design ... it just didn't look and feel good on my wrist. I really did try to love it ....
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The ones that I prefer to use as beaters are still (no surprises here) the Pelagos and Sub. I like the Pelagos as it's so modern, toolish and low-profile; and well, the Sub has an evergreen yet classic design and every other person in the hall has one, so it's also relatively common everywhere you go. Both are good watches for the everyday Joe. I had the Heritage Black Bay (burgundy red) and thought that it was a handsome watch and don't deserved the criticism in the article; but then again, one man's meat may be amateur man's poison. The one that I had and went out of interest relatively quickly was the SevenFriday P3.
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Noticed many say no to Hublot
I thought Hublots are kinda nice, no?
I think Hublot is a brand people cannot judge by a photograph, I hate it until I have seen twice in person.
But those basic Hublots are quite weird to me.
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Despite having collected other more prestigious brands. I never owned but always wanted an Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch. Took the plunge few months back. Was excited wearing it for the first few days but somehow the watch just doesnt speak to me after the novelty is gone.
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Despite having collected other more prestigious brands. I never owned but always wanted an Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch. Took the plunge few months back. Was excited wearing it for the first few days but somehow the watch just doesnt speak to me after the novelty is gone.
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For me, the Zenith el primero range was one that ticked all the boxes on paper, but in real life - just didn't do it for me. Probably due to the case design ... it just didn't look and feel good on my wrist. I really did try to love it ....
My first and third "real" watches are Zenith El Primero and Speedy Moonwatch, respectively. I have since sold both of them
#1. Zenith El Primero Striking 10th is a picture perfect watch, looks amazing under loupe and has a killer look under most angle. I like the movement, the finishing and the robustness of the movement. I am also OK with its 42mm diameter.
However, after a few months of ownership, I realised that I don't like "sunburst silver" dial. In fact, I dislike silver dial watches so much that I have since sold off all my sunburst silver dial watches and will not buy any in foreseeable future.
While I am fine with 42mm, I don't quite fancy the wide gaps between the subdials. I think the 38mm offering suites me better. So I sold it.
I am very pleased that I found a buyer who can appreciate it better than I do. Like the saying, one man's meat is another man's poison.
#2. Speedy moonwatch. I respect everything about the watch - enviable history, robust movement, price competitiveness. But the price competitiveness has eliminated that "luxury" feeling.
Call me shallow, but I prefer rarity / exclusive to tool / good value and hence, I sold it to raise cash to chase my luxury (less value for money) targets.
If they add a zero behind the Speedy price tag and cut the global supply by 95%, I will probably lust for one. Just like what Rolex is doing with its Daytona and early submariners :)
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Despite having collected other more prestigious brands. I never owned but always wanted an Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch. Took the plunge few months back. Was excited wearing it for the first few days but somehow the watch just doesnt speak to me after the novelty is gone.
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For me, the Zenith el primero range was one that ticked all the boxes on paper, but in real life - just didn't do it for me. Probably due to the case design ... it just didn't look and feel good on my wrist. I really did try to love it ....
My first and third "real" watches are Zenith El Primero and Speedy Moonwatch, respectively. I have since sold both of them
#1. Zenith El Primero Striking 10th is a picture perfect watch, looks amazing under loupe and has a killer look under most angle. I like the movement, the finishing and the robustness of the movement. I am also OK with its 42mm diameter.
However, after a few months of ownership, I realised that I don't like "sunburst silver" dial. In fact, I dislike silver dial watches so much that I have since sold off all my sunburst silver dial watches and will not buy any in foreseeable future.
While I am fine with 42mm, I don't quite fancy the wide gaps between the subdials. I think the 38mm offering suites me better. So I sold it.
I am very pleased that I found a buyer who can appreciate it better than I do. Like the saying, one man's meat is another man's poison.
#2. Speedy moonwatch. I respect everything about the watch - enviable history, robust movement, price competitiveness. But the price competitiveness has eliminated that "luxury" feeling.
Call me shallow, but I prefer rarity / exclusive to tool / good value and hence, I sold it to raise cash to chase my luxury (less value for money) targets.
If they add a zero behind the Speedy price tag and cut the global supply by 95%, I will probably lust for one. Just like what Rolex is doing with its Daytona and early submariners :)
Thanks.. these 2 are in my target list.. i've held both and did question the decision.. definitely a decision to be reviewed.. hmmm..
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