Post by: keithk on July 28, 2015, 01:58:55 PM
I am new to the watch world, but would like to start on my first piece and would like some advice.
Am looking for a automatic watch, one which can retain it's value and suitable for everyday use. Am currently looking at getting a Tag, but am open to suggestions! Budget around 7k-ish.
Looking at getting these few 2nd hand/brand-new re-sell, what do you guys think?
1. TAG HEUER Carrera Calibre 5 Automatic ~ RM5k
2. TAG Heuer CARRERA Calibre 6 Heritage Automatic ~ RM7k
3. Maurice Lacroix - Pontos Day/Date ~ RM4k
Hope to hear your feedbacks!! :D
Post by: Devilzzz44 on July 28, 2015, 02:33:29 PM
But if your seriously looking at watches that retain better value then you probably have to top up another 5-7k or so for a pre owned Sub. :thumbsup:
Hi all, gents, ladies, senior watch collector/enthusiast,
I am new to the watch world, but would like to start on my first piece and would like some advice.
Am looking for a automatic watch, one which can retain it's value and suitable for everyday use. Am currently looking at getting a Tag, but am open to suggestions! Budget around 7k-ish.
Looking at getting these few 2nd hand/brand-new re-sell, what do you guys think?
1. TAG HEUER Carrera Calibre 5 Automatic ~ RM5k
2. TAG Heuer CARRERA Calibre 6 Heritage Automatic ~ RM7k
3. Maurice Lacroix - Pontos Day/Date ~ RM4k
Hope to hear your feedbacks!! :D
Post by: hidden830726 on July 28, 2015, 04:03:16 PM
As mentioned, you should buy what you like having on your wrist. If its for everyday use, your choice seems good enough, and with your budget, that's a lot that you can consider. Tag, ML, Ball, Longines, Hamilton, Laco, Archimede, Stowa all have potential to be a good watch.
So the first advise is to: "take your time to consider"
One of the advice you will hear the most is "add a bit more and buy a pre owned sub", its your choice, but for a first watch, i would say, but something new you like within your budget. The best start is to have something decent on your wrist but aiming for grail in your mind and working towards it.
PS: Tag Calibre 5 seems to be good for a first watch
Post by: roystock on July 28, 2015, 05:42:18 PM
Preowned sub is good, preowned explorer ii is equally good.
You wouldn't know what you really like until you wear the watch for a few months.
After which, you may start to look for next one and may regret your choice. In which case, the preowned Rolex will retain most value and are more sellable.
1 more thing, if you really want to enjoy and live with 1 watch, stop browsing watch forums :)
Post by: Spider boy on July 28, 2015, 05:46:19 PM
Happy hunting !
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Post by: hidden830726 on July 28, 2015, 06:50:41 PM
Post by: roystock on July 28, 2015, 07:09:00 PM
Classic, versatile and just slightly above your budget
Post by: Spider boy on July 28, 2015, 07:37:21 PM
Or an used omega Speedmaster professional..
Classic, versatile and just slightly above your budget
+1 , forgotten about this , indeed a very good choice also
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Post by: antoniosaprozeld on July 28, 2015, 09:17:37 PM
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Post by: nikfs1881 on July 28, 2015, 10:22:56 PM
And, agree with others on preowned omega if you could find a good condition within your price range
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Post by: jason_recliner on July 29, 2015, 04:10:30 AM
Post by: CKL1213 on July 29, 2015, 06:53:29 AM
Go up to get some pre owned Omega or Rolex
Go low to get some JDM Seiko
If I were you, I will go low for JDM Seiko, save some money and next target only go for those Omega / Rolex.
Or you may practice delayed gratification
Post by: keithk on July 29, 2015, 06:58:59 AM
Don't really want to up the budget for a rollie at the moment. Will get that for my second watch.
Will try to look around and see if there's any good 2nd hand Omega that tickles my fancy.
Thanks for all your feedback!
Seems like there's not many Tag fans here :-X
Post by: G.MAC on July 29, 2015, 07:21:07 AM
Post by: Devilzzz44 on July 29, 2015, 07:22:36 AM
I prefer something more simple and minimal, thus having picked those 3. I did come across Omega Seamaster Professional, but didn't really have the oomph for it. Maybe it's time to pay the store a visit and try them on!I used to be a big fan of Tag Heuer watches..
Don't really want to up the budget for a rollie at the moment. Will get that for my second watch.
Will try to look around and see if there's any good 2nd hand Omega that tickles my fancy.
Thanks for all your feedback!
Seems like there's not many Tag fans here :-X
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Post by: keithk on July 29, 2015, 07:29:07 AM
Post by: keithk on July 29, 2015, 07:30:50 AM
Since you really like Tag, i recommend you up your budget a bit and go for the pre-owned Tag Heuer Carrera Calibre 1887 (the only Tag I love)
Will keep this model in mind when I go for watch shopping this weekend!
Post by: CKL1213 on July 29, 2015, 07:37:54 AM
Post by: swleong on July 29, 2015, 07:42:23 AM
And save you almost RM2k from your budget. :thumbsup:
Post by: keithk on July 29, 2015, 07:47:24 AM
Get Longines Legend Diver as a start....Classic-look diver, date function, black dial, 42mm case, plenty of strap options......
And save you almost RM2k from your budget. :thumbsup:
Alright thanks thanks! Will try it on as well ;)
Post by: CKL1213 on July 29, 2015, 07:52:28 AM
Post by: jason_recliner on July 29, 2015, 08:06:46 AM
Get Longines Legend Diver as a start....Classic-look diver, date function, black dial, 42mm case, plenty of strap options......
And save you almost RM2k from your budget. :thumbsup:
Great suggestion. It's a lovely watch. But the Tag Carrera series are no slouches either.
Post by: theseira on July 29, 2015, 08:38:59 AM
Secondly I would stay away from Tag.
I would consider topping up and get Omega Speedmaster Professional. Reason:
1) One of the classic most iconic pieces out there, has cult following and lots of interesting stuff about it
2) Manual wind
3) Chronograph!
4) easy to shift
5) Close to your budget
Compare with the tag, In my opinion regarding Tag:
1) hard to shift - you need to buy at huge discount otherwise u may lose a lot of funds
2) nothing about it is better than the SMP in my view
Post by: Omnipotent on July 29, 2015, 08:50:29 AM
personally, the Ball Fireman Classic 42mm is the most reliable and accurate watch in my collection as it is accurate to the minute even after 6 months of daily wear (the longest i have worn before rotating to other watches).
Post by: r3kahsttub on July 29, 2015, 09:11:44 AM
Tudor Style: http://www.tudorwatch.com/en/tudor-style/#/style-specs/
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Post by: theseira on July 29, 2015, 09:26:24 AM
Someone just mentioned this a little while back. I'ver personally never seen it in the flesh, but I plan to check it out.
Tudor Style: http://www.tudorwatch.com/en/tudor-style/#/style-specs/
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These two looks awesome! I'd check them out too.
Post by: r3kahsttub on July 29, 2015, 09:41:23 AM
Post by: hidden830726 on July 29, 2015, 10:06:44 AM
Agreed with the Tudor Style, very handsome
Post by: nikfs1881 on July 29, 2015, 03:57:29 PM
I prefer something more simple and minimal, thus having picked those 3. I did come across Omega Seamaster Professional, but didn't really have the oomph for it. Maybe it's time to pay the store a visit and try them on!
Don't really want to up the budget for a rollie at the moment. Will get that for my second watch.
Will try to look around and see if there's any good 2nd hand Omega that tickles my fancy.
Thanks for all your feedback!
Seems like there's not many Tag fans here :-X
Nothing wrong with owning a tag....most of the ppl here started their watch collecting journey with tag anyway.... Tag does offer a lot of appealing nice collection.... In fact, i still have a few of tag and coincidentally wearing one today.... But i'd agree with others on tag's resale value....
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Post by: hidden830726 on July 29, 2015, 04:44:54 PM
Post by: nikfs1881 on July 29, 2015, 05:14:31 PM
Actually Tag is not amateur watch brand at all, look at the calibre 18, its hardly cheap but I think it worth the money. I actually love it alot..
Indeed but most WIS always has the stigma of "shy away from tag please".....
Calibre 18 is based from sellita 300 i think.... Calibre 36 based from zenith el primero and of course tag has a few of its own movement but the price bracket is pretty steep!
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Post by: Everdying on July 29, 2015, 06:20:15 PM
Indeed but most WIS always has the stigma of "shy away from tag please".....
most WIS also has the stigma of 'having a rolex' ;D
Post by: nikfs1881 on July 29, 2015, 06:38:19 PM
Indeed but most WIS always has the stigma of "shy away from tag please".....
most WIS also has the stigma of 'having a rolex' ;D
WIS could argue owning a rolex is part of the journey before they decided to disband the rolex and move to patek or AP.... Lol....
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Post by: roystock on July 29, 2015, 06:49:41 PM
Indeed but most WIS always has the stigma of "shy away from tag please".....
most WIS also has the stigma of 'having a rolex' ;D
I am one of the "most WIS"
For me, I always Rolex (though I was actively trying to avoid it when I first started, but Rolex is that good)
and for me, no Tag (I started with Ball, Steinhart, almost got a ML and I like Hamilton and Oris)
:)
Post by: Everdying on July 29, 2015, 07:00:47 PM
those that want it just cos "its a rolex", well they're probably in the same category as those who want a tag just cos "its a tag".
of cos there are some who are in it due to some emotional attachment, but then again not many of us have grand-dads or great grand-dads who have rolexes etc...
in the end, just buy what u like.
and as jeremy clarkson once said 'the only thing in the world worse than a fake rolex is a real one" ;D
Post by: nikfs1881 on July 29, 2015, 07:15:51 PM
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Post by: keithk on July 30, 2015, 06:12:32 AM
Firstly I don't think OP can get a Rolex within his budget.
Secondly I would stay away from Tag.
I would consider topping up and get Omega Speedmaster Professional. Reason:
1) One of the classic most iconic pieces out there, has cult following and lots of interesting stuff about it
2) Manual wind
3) Chronograph!
4) easy to shift
5) Close to your budget
Compare with the tag, In my opinion regarding Tag:
1) hard to shift - you need to buy at huge discount otherwise u may lose a lot of funds
2) nothing about it is better than the SMP in my view
Yep am planning to get a 2nd hand one in the case of the Tag.
Have many recommendation for the SMP. Looks like it's a serious contender ;D Will start the hunt and see if it appeals to me. Thanks!
Post by: keithk on July 30, 2015, 06:14:34 AM
for simple looking watches you can get the Ball Fireman Racer series or the new for 2014 "Marvelight" which is really a DJ2 homage if you ask me ;D
personally, the Ball Fireman Classic 42mm is the most reliable and accurate watch in my collection as it is accurate to the minute even after 6 months of daily wear (the longest i have worn before rotating to other watches).
The Marvelight does look good!
Post by: keithk on July 30, 2015, 06:17:46 AM
Btw, when purchasing a 2nd hand watch (with or without cert), where should I go to make sure it is authentic before buying it?
Post by: Devilzzz44 on July 30, 2015, 06:54:02 AM
I do agree with most where "I want to get a Tag for my first watch just because it is a Tag" (or Omega, just that it is slightly more pricey). Am thinking maybe I should go for a Hamilton / cheaper range and save up for the 2nd watch.
Btw, when purchasing a 2nd hand watch (with or without cert), where should I go to make sure it is authentic before buying it?
Post by: keithk on July 31, 2015, 05:47:30 AM
send the watch to local AD or even some of the reputable watch shop u know for an authenticity check before the deal, for me pre owned watch with or without cert is just a personal preference some ppl may be very particular on that but not for me though..like wise most of the sifus here say...buy the seller not the watch. :thumbsup:I do agree with most where "I want to get a Tag for my first watch just because it is a Tag" (or Omega, just that it is slightly more pricey). Am thinking maybe I should go for a Hamilton / cheaper range and save up for the 2nd watch.
Btw, when purchasing a 2nd hand watch (with or without cert), where should I go to make sure it is authentic before buying it?
Got it, thanks!
Post by: arcsaber7 on July 31, 2015, 09:21:55 AM
Check it out in Pavillion for watch exhibition from today till 9th August. Participating brands as per attached including Tag, Maurice Lacroix, Tudor and etc. Good to pay a visit and get more info before you commit
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Post by: dualcarb on July 31, 2015, 10:29:12 AM
Good luck and have fun chasing that watch of yours. This is the best part of the journey. Please do share with us what you procure eventually and of course also share with us the thrill of the chase...
Patrick
Post by: r3kahsttub on July 31, 2015, 12:48:11 PM
In person and on bracelet, the watch is a little underwhelming. Does not look anywhere near as nice as in pics. Believe it will be much, much better on leather.
Post by: theseira on July 31, 2015, 02:45:54 PM
Just checked out the Tudor Style at an AD over lunch. At first, he didn't recognize them name; only when I showed him a picture did it click. Anyway, they don't have it in leather, and I was told most only will carry the steel ones. It was only a short while ago, but I can't recall the exact price -- believe it is about RM7k.
In person and on bracelet, the watch is a little underwhelming. Does not look anywhere near as nice as in pics. Believe it will be much, much better on leather.
That's a shame I thought it would look better than pics.
Speaking of tudor have you guys seen tudor heritage black bay for only watch auction. Man its the ultimate modern tudor!
Post by: ck77 on July 31, 2015, 04:07:43 PM
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Yes indeed!
If only its regular production.
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Post by: nikfs1881 on July 31, 2015, 04:15:42 PM
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Yes indeed!
If only its regular production.
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A true beauty!
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Post by: artyca on August 01, 2015, 01:28:10 PM
Post by: arsene on August 01, 2015, 11:20:00 PM
Post by: keithk on August 04, 2015, 09:25:45 AM
I got a preowned omega SMP ceramic.. No regret!
Hey Arsene,
Where did you get it from? How much did you pay for it, mind me asking? ;D
Post by: ikttan on August 04, 2015, 11:31:10 AM
Post by: antoniosaprozeld on August 07, 2015, 05:35:32 AM
I got a preowned omega SMP ceramic.. No regret!Pics pls
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