Post by: hidden830726 on July 26, 2015, 07:11:13 PM
I browse facebook and saw an ad where six of my facebook friend like a replica watch ad.
The ad show an IWC watch with price RM600. Off course its a replica.
So I go into the fb page (26k likes) and it even said at its "about" in Bahasa that they supply branded and high quality replica watches.
I am a bit puzzle as to:
1) why these people (including my friends) openly support replica?
2) will your perception against these peoples (or friends) changed?
3) will you tell your friends off about its illegal to buy a replica?
*im not looking down on people who wear replica, its just there are always homage brand, so I seriously dont see any reason why one need replica, except the need to show. More so, why bother "like" or openly "support" such business.
Whata your view?
Post by: @tsw@ on July 26, 2015, 08:03:47 PM
Post by: jason_recliner on July 27, 2015, 04:48:59 AM
1. They want that look.
2. They don't want to pay the ludicrous luxury brand mark-ups.
3. They don't give care about wearing fakes.
I try to judge people on how they treat others and the environment, not what they wear. Some great people work their arses off every day but for charitable causes and can only afford a $20 Casio or replica and some people who collect Rolex are just trashy entitled spoiled arseholes who never did a full day of work their entire lives (Mummy and Daddy paid for their watches). I'd rather have a pint with the guy wearing the replica, personally.
Post by: CKL1213 on July 27, 2015, 07:29:38 AM
wearing replica = declaring it is genuine and try to fool other people = face palm
Post by: swleong on July 27, 2015, 07:39:13 AM
1st type: Want to show off, can't afford to pay that much.
2nd type: Want to show off, able to afford to pay that much (but too stingy to pay), and though nobody will notice they are wearing fake.
3rd type: Don't know what are they buying, as long as it looks OK and the price is cheap.
I once was a buyer of replica branded shirts and belt and belongs to 1st type, yes, i was a cheap @ssh*le. :mooning:
Post by: CKL1213 on July 27, 2015, 07:50:54 AM
Once I argued with them, because they are saying the replica G-shocks selling at those Kiosk is the same selling in the G-Factory.
Why pay so much for the same watch? face palm x 100
They are those who think Polo Haus = Ralp Lauren
Post by: meoramri on July 27, 2015, 08:28:51 AM
We shouldn't condone blatant IP theft. Manufacturers of replica watches are thieves. :Mad:
Post by: theseira on July 27, 2015, 09:21:37 AM
I don't own replica pieces because it has no value. I am a collector and I only collect pieces that have good value retention and demand. That is why I only bought in Rolex and Patek.
What about others wearing replica:
Well it does not bother me! If they want the look its all good, but for me I want the look and the value. No value not for me.
Would you like to collect stuff that has no value?
Post by: r3kahsttub on July 27, 2015, 09:58:57 AM
I think for most of us in this forum, and amongst our peers, almost everyone can afford a RM500 watch; if they're too thrifty to buy a G-Shock or Casio, then don't imagine that you will be able to change that mindset :-)
Post by: hanz079 on July 27, 2015, 11:00:25 AM
I mean how many time have we heard:-
"replicas are 1:1 like the original"
"even seasoned pros cannot tell the difference"
"some pawnshop in some country got scammed by a replica watch coz they can't tell the difference"
These stories seem to validate the quality of replicas.
We have to bear in mind some people do not dare to walk into high end AD to check out watches.
Again, with snobby AD stories posted around, can't entirely blame them.
So they end up in forums. Replica forums documenting how good the replica industry is.
They take comparison pics. And yeah... some look really convincing...
They they thought... why spend a huge amount of cash when I can get the exact same thing for less...
That's the mistake there.
If my friends were into replicas, I would try to share my knowledge with them.
Try to understand their intentions for choosing replicas.
And if possible, change their mindset towards replica watches.
Some of my friends are rich enough to buy the real deal and they have the real deal.
But everyday, they wear a replica just because of fear that they would damage the original...
I am speechless... hahaha
Post by: jason_recliner on July 27, 2015, 01:19:21 PM
As has been mentioned, I wouldn't expect a watch enthusiast to collect fakes, or even buy one fake. We like watches, so we want the real thing, regardless of cost. But for a member of the general public, I can totally understand why they might look at one watch for $5,000 and a similar one for $500, and take the $500 watch. Most people just don't care, and why should they care? I don't take orders from corporations an lawyers, I don't care if Richemont says Fakes are For Fake People or whatever, I buy the real thing purely because that's what I want, so why should anybody else what some corporation says they should do - nobody wants to be a corporate bitch! They probably think WE are nuts for spending 10x on ostensibly the same watch. Maybe THEY are right!
One more thing... while I couldn't care less if somebody wants to wear a fake watch, its a TOTALLY different thing trying to pas off a fake as the real thing. If you try and sell me a fake, you'd better hope that a) you do not live in Australia or b) if you live in Australia you'd better have protection.
:police:
Post by: Devilzzz44 on July 27, 2015, 02:42:07 PM
Post by: maxbill on July 27, 2015, 04:23:44 PM
Well, there will always be demand for replica or fake watches cause in general, the originals are just too expensive...
Post by: anson Duncan on July 27, 2015, 06:53:34 PM
Post by: Timeless on July 27, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
Post by: WHEELQ on July 27, 2015, 11:03:19 PM
Don't get me wrong here. I don't buy watches to keep them in safe. I used and rotates them extensively. Beaches, seawater, water themepark, diving. I used the watches for the reason they're made (3 Submariners, last count).
I don't worry of scratches on my watches, but i do worry of being robbed of one. We all have heard of such incidents happens to our own circle of friends, don't we? Scratches cost hundreds RM, an accident knock or fall cost thousands, but being robbed cost tens of thousands.
Anyw, the emergence of high quality replicas does concerns me. So my options are to collects non- popular models and limited editions. Kermit, Hulk, Blue TT, Gulf Monaco, Maurice Lacroix Squellete etc etc. Those can't be replicated well enuf so i guess I'm playing safe to avoid being called of wearing replica.
Post by: CKL1213 on July 28, 2015, 07:23:07 AM
Story 1:
A wealthy KL businessman (mid 40s) wearing a Rolex gold DD all the time while in KL.
One time he need to go Indonesia for business trip and afraid being robbed, he switched his Gold DD to a replica.
While in Indonesia, his wrist got chopped off because of the bling bling Gold DD.
Story 2:
A wealthy college boy in SS15, wearing some expensive watch, being robbed.
The next day, the robbers look for the college boy and beat the hell of him.
Because when the robbers go pawn the watch, it is a fake.
Post by: theseira on July 28, 2015, 09:05:55 AM
I once heard 2 stories and not sure whether is true or not.
Story 1:
A wealthy KL businessman (mid 40s) wearing a Rolex gold DD all the time while in KL.
One time he need to go Indonesia for business trip and afraid being robbed, he switched his Gold DD to a replica.
While in Indonesia, his wrist got chopped off because of the bling bling Gold DD.
Story 2:
A wealthy college boy in SS15, wearing some expensive watch, being robbed.
The next day, the robbers look for the college boy and beat the hell of him.
Because when the robbers go pawn the watch, it is a fake.
Yeah gold pieces are dangerous regardless whether fake or not.
Post by: hidden830726 on July 28, 2015, 09:14:07 AM
I once heard 2 stories and not sure whether is true or not.
Story 1:
A wealthy KL businessman (mid 40s) wearing a Rolex gold DD all the time while in KL.
One time he need to go Indonesia for business trip and afraid being robbed, he switched his Gold DD to a replica.
While in Indonesia, his wrist got chopped off because of the bling bling Gold DD.
Story 2:
A wealthy college boy in SS15, wearing some expensive watch, being robbed.
The next day, the robbers look for the college boy and beat the hell of him.
Because when the robbers go pawn the watch, it is a fake.
Nice share. Sorry for the lost of hand for Story 1 and laughing at Story 2.
Moral of the story? Wear fake will only avoid you losing your watch but it will not stop you from getting harm
Post by: eyez98 on July 29, 2015, 12:29:24 PM
Post by: hidden830726 on July 29, 2015, 04:41:50 PM
i sometimes click like on pages, ads without me even realizing it on facebook. So yea, that doesn't mean your friends who 'liked' the ad support replica watchesU mean mis-clicked the like button? Hmm. Mis click the page wont like the page tho.
Post by: CKL1213 on July 30, 2015, 07:17:36 AM
however personally I won't click it
Post by: dualcarb on July 30, 2015, 04:03:41 PM
Post by: JeepWH on July 30, 2015, 04:17:20 PM
Unless they approach me to ask whether the watch is genuine or not then I'll say something about it.
If not, u go your way, i go mine.
Post by: Everdying on July 30, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
eventually after lots of poisoning, he eventually bought an original which was a seiko.
soon the floodgates to bankruptcy will open :P
Post by: Swoosh64 on July 30, 2015, 09:34:01 PM
Post by: nikfs1881 on July 31, 2015, 01:34:03 AM
It is a criminal offense if one is caught with counterfeit products in france and several other EU countries.... Likewise, malaysian should not support this with 'tidak apa' attitude....
Whoever is supporting the replica (or piracy) industry is no different than those thieves that manufacture fake products.....
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Post by: hidden830726 on July 31, 2015, 05:59:57 AM
Post by: Everdying on July 31, 2015, 06:02:54 AM
Post by: theseira on July 31, 2015, 06:48:18 AM
While i respect individual's preferences and choices, we are talking about intellectual property here and it's no longer about individual's right.... It's illegal, unethical and should not be condoned....
It is a criminal offense if one is caught with counterfeit products in france and several other EU countries.... Likewise, malaysian should not support this with 'tidak apa' attitude....
Whoever is supporting the replica (or piracy) industry is no different than those thieves that manufacture fake products.....
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and just wondering, how many here buy / download illegally movies / mp3?
Guys MALAYSIA BOLEH!
Post by: kygan711 on July 31, 2015, 07:49:01 AM
He wears replica but who dares to question him given his stature unless you are a friend.
Post by: CKL1213 on July 31, 2015, 08:02:45 AM
I rather wear a G-shock than a fake Tag
Post by: Everdying on July 31, 2015, 08:18:39 AM
I got a client who has a driver, stays in a Semi D in a prestigious gated community with big cars and special number plates.
He wears replica but who dares to question him given his stature unless you are a friend.
well, if hes not ur friend, why would u want to question him?
everyone can live their lives with their 'holier than thou' approach, wearing fake adidas, wearing fake oakleys etc...who cares ;D
Post by: nikfs1881 on July 31, 2015, 01:15:23 PM
I got a client who has a driver, stays in a Semi D in a prestigious gated community with big cars and special number plates.
He wears replica but who dares to question him given his stature unless you are a friend.
Well, unfortunately Being rich and having good stature in community does not automatically makes him an ethical person....like other people who wear counterfeit products, he is still an unethical person who should be ashamed of himself irregardless of his rationale to wear such products.... But, hey, this is Malaysia, there's no legal provisions or enforcement that govern this, so, who cares, wear it in good health.....
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Post by: nikfs1881 on July 31, 2015, 01:16:47 PM
I am not rich, but if I can't afford, I won't fake it.
I rather wear a G-shock than a fake Tag
Exactly.... Good point!
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Post by: hidden830726 on July 31, 2015, 06:05:57 PM
and just wondering, how many here buy / download illegally movies / mp3?
This one is Malaysia culture. you cannot question. Its only for preview or pre-listen, people always will buy the original.
Post by: Everdying on July 31, 2015, 08:29:37 PM
and just wondering, how many here buy / download illegally movies / mp3?
This one is Malaysia culture. you cannot question. Its only for preview or pre-listen, people always will buy the original.
so the fake watches also for preview...see how it looks on the wrist first before buying original :thumbsup:
Post by: hidden830726 on July 31, 2015, 08:37:11 PM
Post by: jason_recliner on August 01, 2015, 08:14:11 AM
I am not rich, but if I can't afford, I won't fake it.
I rather wear a G-shock than a fake Tag
Exactly.... Good point!
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I'm sure that this would be true of every member here because we all love watches. Every single one of its today will be wearing a cool, genuine watch ????
But I think for a lot of people who aren't so passionate allot watches, they don't really care about fakes. And I can understand that. I have some fake polo shirts, fake DVDs and I've downloaded music before, so I'm not about to judge!
Post by: chiewata on August 01, 2015, 09:42:40 AM
Anyway its personal preference but beware if you travel to some country that take IP very seriously if you caught wearing a copyright infringing fakes u might be in trouble.
But anything u like or u do nevermind but pls dont use fake as gift to your girlfriend because the consequences is serious, in recent days a hot FB post in HK where one lady posted the picture of a newly launched Ice Blue Platinum Daytona given as preSent from her allegedly rich boy friend but some with sharp eyes immediately spotted it is a fake and the rest is history XDD.
those who understand chinese can check this out
https://www.facebook.com/hkgoldenpic/posts/1004527192925077 (https://www.facebook.com/hkgoldenpic/posts/1004527192925077)
Post by: ahmadabhamid on August 01, 2015, 12:34:32 PM
To me it is better to wear a RM 300 authentic Seiko than a RM 1500 replica Rolex. Faking is daylight robbery
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Post by: artyca on August 01, 2015, 01:21:18 PM
Buying fakes is not only a stupid waste of money, but you're indirectly contributing towards the billion-dollar counterfeit industry and you're making a disgrace of yourself by doing so.
Post by: chiewata on August 01, 2015, 02:10:54 PM
So my point is if u really loved watches and not jst wanna being "glamour" with ur branded watch it not necessary have to burn holes in your pocket.
But of course if u really wanna impress others by ur expensive taste then just go for the real one and never Need to worry someone might spot it is fake
Post by: Geneve on August 01, 2015, 03:45:46 PM
Post by: JeepWH on August 01, 2015, 06:25:30 PM
I admit that I had downloaded music too, as it was impossible to download it legally online (not available) and the CD i order couldnt get through our glorious Malaysian Customs due to ( in their words "containing offensive material" ) whatever they mean, and returned it to sender. :Mad:
So in the end, no choice la.....
Post by: cklim on August 02, 2015, 09:34:48 AM
Now he can wear his Steinhart and walk into AD w/o worrying sales personnel saying his watch is fake.
Post by: chiewata on August 02, 2015, 03:46:59 PM
Don't buy the RM500 bag and have nothing in it, buy a RM50 bag and have RM450 in it. Don't go broke trying to look rich.
~ Mahathir Mohamad
Post by: Calibr on August 02, 2015, 09:14:44 PM
Post by: hidden830726 on August 02, 2015, 11:09:42 PM
People who "liked" the FB page on Replicas do not necessarily buy those stuff. It's good to know what's going on in that market, to be informed and try not to be scammed by grey dealers or members selling their used items.. :Cheers:
ok, this is one possible valid reason to like those page.
Post by: sidestreaker on August 03, 2015, 10:14:31 AM
From experience , this save me a lot of explanation... and I don't really care what they think, honestly.
Also, I don't judge if I meet anyone with fake stuff. I'm sure they have their reasons.
I wear them watches for meself... ;D ;D
Post by: chrisyen on September 01, 2015, 09:52:54 AM
Some advice From Tun which is quite valid
Don't buy the RM500 bag and have nothing in it, buy a RM50 bag and have RM450 in it. Don't go broke trying to look rich.
~ Mahathir Mohamad
whether i like tun or not is second matter
i must agree with this
buy what you can afford... buy the brand you can afford ! instead of buying a fake product
Post by: Friedrice on September 01, 2015, 03:09:05 PM
With a 3k budget, they can get a decent genuine preowned watch. Granted that it may not be a marquee brand but at least it is the real deal.
Post by: chenht on September 01, 2015, 03:42:23 PM