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Title: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: spacewalker on June 16, 2015, 01:03:09 PM
Hi guys. I know this topic a bit 'cliche'  , had already talk on this forum again and again,  and the answer for this topic is also might be subjective, but I need a help, a suggestion for my next watches purchase :) from MWF members.

My budget is around 10K.Targeting the middle range brand ,  being browsing the several website recently make me either to choose the brand new or opt to the pre-owned one. Got my eyes on brand new Breitling Superocean II 44mm or preowned Tag Heuer Carrera Chronograph 44mm. Those is quite nice watch but I'm sure there is a plenty better choice out there that I haven't discover. I'm looking for:-     1. sporty watches

 2. Not a chronograph 3. Diameter at least 43 - 44 mm 4. Automatic
 
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: ck77 on June 16, 2015, 01:13:46 PM
Quick suggestion, pre-owned Omega PO or IWC Mark 17.
Title: suggestion for watches around 10K
Post by: spacewalker on June 16, 2015, 01:27:07 PM
Hi guys. I know this topic a bit 'cliche'  , had already talk on this forum again and again,  and the answer for this topic is also might be subjective, but I need a help, an opinion or a suggestion for my next watches purchase :) from MWF members.

My budget is around 10K. Targeting the middle range brand ,  being browsing the several website recently make me either to choose the brand new or opt to the pre-owned one. Got my eyes on brand new Breitling Superocean II 44mm or preowned Tag Heuer Carrera Chronograph 44mm. Those are quite nice watch but I'm sure there is a plenty better choice out there that I haven't discover. I'm eyeing on Omega PO, Chopard Millie Miglia GTS Automatic or IWC Ingenieur  but those are way out of my budget  :)

I'm looking for-  1. sporty watches / pilot 
                          2. Date /day & date
                          3. Diameter at least 43 - 44 mm
                          4. Automatic
                          5. prefer rubber strap or SS bracelet 

I will also consider chronograph . Hope you guys could help me :) 
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: TJWN on June 16, 2015, 06:37:41 PM
a niche brand for you to consider Armand Nicolet S05 Date 44mm
(http://armandnicolet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/A710AGU-AK-GG4710U_large.png)

B&R BR03 which 1mm smaller than what you wanted...
(http://195.154.205.140/IMG_neuf/imgStd/Bell-Ross-BR-03-92-Carbon-42MM.jpg)

U-Boat Classico which is 1mm bigger than what you wanted...
(http://www.thewatchhut.co.uk/assets/products/lg-5569-325916.jpg)

Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: hidden830726 on June 16, 2015, 07:10:27 PM
hmm, not as high end as what you aiming, but do consider:

Stowa TO1 Testaf with 2824-2 or Flieger GMT with ETA A07.171

1. sporty watches - Checked
2. Not a chronograph - Checked
3. Diameter at least 43 - 44 mm - Checked
4. Automatic - Checked
5. day / date - GMT model with date - Checked
6. prefer rubber strap - Checked

Half or slightly half of your budget

http://www.stowa.de/lshop,showrub,143445419216478,en,1434459898-16301,sportuhren,,,,.htm (http://www.stowa.de/lshop,showrub,143445419216478,en,1434459898-16301,sportuhren,,,,.htm)
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: kingpin on June 16, 2015, 08:14:21 PM
My suggestion = Baume et Mercier Capeland

 1. sporty watches / pilot  - Checked, with Chrono
 2. Date /day & date - Checked - with Date
 3. Diameter at least 43 - 44 mm - Checked, 44mm
 4. Automatic - Checked
 5. prefer rubber strap or SS bracelet - Checked, SS bracelet or Leather

Last Budget - Checked........ around 10k after discount.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: nikfs1881 on June 17, 2015, 01:42:33 AM
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Title: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: nikfs1881 on June 17, 2015, 01:51:04 AM
Hi guys. I know this topic a bit 'cliche'  , had already talk on this forum again and again,  and the answer for this topic is also might be subjective, but I need a help, a suggestion for my next watches purchase :) from MWF members.

My budget is around 10K.Targeting the middle range brand ,  being browsing the several website recently make me either to choose the brand new or opt to the pre-owned one. Got my eyes on brand new Breitling Superocean II 44mm or preowned Tag Heuer Carrera Chronograph 44mm. Those is quite nice watch but I'm sure there is a plenty better choice out there that I haven't discover. I'm looking for:-     1. sporty watches

 2. Not a chronograph 3. Diameter at least 43 - 44 mm 4. Automatic
 

If you are into breitling's design, just go for it! I have one avenger seawolf blacksteel and i love the breit! Extremely well built and sporty.....That's my favorite weekend watch.....
Coincidentally, i have one grand carrera gmt too.... Which i like as well.... But if i havent bought the grand carrera yet and i have to make a choice between the GC and the iwc pilot, i would have gone for iwc  pilot instead.... Tag is nice and good quality too but value retention is not one of its forte!


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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: spacewalker on June 17, 2015, 10:05:24 AM
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Hi nikfs1881
That Baume et Mercier in my list before. Lost interest because of very snobby salesperson. Not so many watch shop have that brand.  May you pm me the budget for that capeland. I like the one with blue dial :)

I like the new Superocean II. The thinner bezel but the dial a bit busy. Typical Breitling trademark I think. The automatic Colt is nice but not really like the bezel design.

a niche brand for you to consider Armand Nicolet S05 Date 44mm
(http://armandnicolet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/A710AGU-AK-GG4710U_large.png)

B&R BR03 which 1mm smaller than what you wanted...
(http://195.154.205.140/IMG_neuf/imgStd/Bell-Ross-BR-03-92-Carbon-42MM.jpg)

U-Boat Classico which is 1mm bigger than what you wanted...
(http://www.thewatchhut.co.uk/assets/products/lg-5569-325916.jpg)



hi TJWN
Nice armandnicolet, heard that brand before but never had a chance to view it in person. That really suit my budget? :)

Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: shwn31 on June 17, 2015, 12:44:53 PM
Have you consider tudor brand? They got quite a few nice looking watch. Try have a look for heritage chrono, fastrider or pelagos for diver.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: D'Andy on June 17, 2015, 01:14:23 PM
Have you consider tudor brand? They got quite a few nice looking watch. Try have a look for heritage chrono, fastrider or pelagos for diver.

I owned the Black Bay and Pelagos, and I would give a +1 to the Pelagos.

1. sporty watches - Checked
2. Not a chronograph - Checked
3. Diameter at least 43 - 44 mm - Checked (42mm without crown)
4. Automatic - Checked
5. Date - Checked
6. Prefer rubber strap - Checked (includes both bracelet and rubber strap)
7. Crazy bright lasting lume - Checked

And you could get a pre-owned at your budget too. Good luck with your shopping!
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: nikfs1881 on June 17, 2015, 02:09:57 PM

Have you consider tudor brand? They got quite a few nice looking watch. Try have a look for heritage chrono, fastrider or pelagos for diver.

I owned the Black Bay and Pelagos, and I would give a +1 to the Pelagos.

1. sporty watches - Checked
2. Not a chronograph - Checked
3. Diameter at least 43 - 44 mm - Checked (42mm without crown)
4. Automatic - Checked
5. Date - Checked
6. Prefer rubber strap - Checked (includes both bracelet and rubber strap)
7. Crazy bright lasting lume - Checked

And you could get a pre-owned at your budget too. Good luck with your shopping!

Yes! Agree black bay or pelagos is within your budget! Good recommendation!


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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: notmanic on June 17, 2015, 07:45:40 PM
damasko? hardy watches... you may opt for DA range which is well within your budget or the DK range if you can add on... fits most of your criteria...
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: cklim on June 18, 2015, 10:43:13 AM
Got my eyes on brand new Breitling Superocean II 44mm or preowned Tag Heuer Carrera Chronograph 44mm.

What about Avenger II Seawolf? Very solid and well built, and dial not too busy, with military font style arabic numerals, some more comes with certified chronometer compared to Carrera. I nearly pull trigger on this after trying it on my wrist during watch shopping before GST, at the end "tak jadi" coz price is way above my budget  :'(

Carrera Chronograph is also good but I feel that it's a bit "sien" already, may be it has been around for quite some times (no offense to Tag lovers).

Image courtesy from Breitling
(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah113/cklim_1971/breitling_zpsvirgsqdr.png)
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: spacewalker on June 18, 2015, 10:58:40 AM
Avenger II Seawolf are also in my list , the price also a couple hundred more than the Superocean but the case is very thick 18.4 mm. Maybe to withstand the water resistant is 3000 m :). I have to try all those model in person before decide which one should I choose.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: theseira on June 19, 2015, 12:04:04 PM
I'd go with Tudor as well.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: hilfi.b on June 19, 2015, 02:38:45 PM
Azimuth?

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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: Timeless on June 22, 2015, 09:20:46 PM
Perhaps Seven Friday or Ball?
Title: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: nikfs1881 on June 23, 2015, 02:40:07 AM
Perhaps Seven Friday or Ball?

Ball is okay but personally i wouldnt recommend SEvenFriday for the OP......sevenfriday is below rm5k instead of rm10k and not meeting the price point provided by OP. But again, personal taste differs across individuals, that's just my 2 cents


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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: kingpin on June 23, 2015, 02:26:23 PM
My suggestion = Baume et Mercier Capeland

 1. sporty watches / pilot  - Checked, with Chrono
 2. Date /day & date - Checked - with Date
 3. Diameter at least 43 - 44 mm - Checked, 44mm
 4. Automatic - Checked
 5. prefer rubber strap or SS bracelet - Checked, SS bracelet or Leather

Last Budget - Checked........ around 10k after discount.

ADD ON - Ball Fireman (Storm Chaser) - Checked for everything, comes with rubber strap
              - Tudor Black bay - Checked for everything.
              - Tag Hueur Calibre 5 - Checked for everything, comes with leather strap
              - Chopard Mille Miglia GTS - Checked for everything - Price higher
              - Mont Blanc Timewalker Voyageur UTC - Checked for everything - kind of leather strap

 
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: spacewalker on June 24, 2015, 01:11:23 AM
IMO Ball Fireman (storm chaser) will fit most the character that I'm looking for but it is hard to find those Storm Chaser. Most shop have a Storm Chaser Pro which is 42 mm. Seven friday and azimuth is extremely unique in form of shape and movement. Make me think twice to choose those brand.  I think I'll play safe this time. Chopard Mille Miglia GTS is very nice. From the info I read, it use in-house Chopard movement. I'm not sure the MSRP for that model for sure it is higher than my budget. Thanks for those comment, and sorry cause I'm quite picky when choosing watches :)
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: nikfs1881 on June 24, 2015, 08:12:05 AM
Sevenfriday's miyota movement unique?


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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: ranj85 on June 24, 2015, 02:57:09 PM
Sporty watch,  tag will be just fine...  But consider tudor as well, great designs.... Keep hunting till you find the right one. 
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: spacewalker on June 24, 2015, 04:35:42 PM
Sevenfriday case shape is unique, not the miyota movement  ;D, I'm also try to avoid even a swiss movement if ibeats lower than 28,800 vph. Azimuth with movement with one hand, anti-clockwise is quite uniqe and new to me.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: mtto2 on June 30, 2015, 11:34:37 PM
hi there

i think for 10k u can consider looking into bell&ross or a tag.

both good value for money
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: Everdying on July 01, 2015, 06:52:23 AM
Sevenfriday case shape is unique, not the miyota movement  ;D, I'm also try to avoid even a swiss movement if ibeats lower than 28,800 vph. Azimuth with movement with one hand, anti-clockwise is quite uniqe and new to me.

u do know the omga PO u are eyeing also beats lower than 28,800?  ;D
Title: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: chrisyen on July 01, 2015, 09:10:26 AM
Sevenfriday case shape is unique, not the miyota movement  ;D, I'm also try to avoid even a swiss movement if ibeats lower than 28,800 vph. Azimuth with movement with one hand, anti-clockwise is quite uniqe and new to me.

u do know the omga PO u are eyeing also beats lower than 28,800?  ;D

Higher Bph doesn't guarantee accuracy.

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Dietrich is cool
As compare to 7friday,

The case is more solid,  the visual more impactful with its 3d multi level construction


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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: spacewalker on July 01, 2015, 03:55:16 PM
Sevenfriday case shape is unique, not the miyota movement  ;D, I'm also try to avoid even a swiss movement if ibeats lower than 28,800 vph. Azimuth with movement with one hand, anti-clockwise is quite uniqe and new to me.

u do know the omga PO u are eyeing also beats lower than 28,800?  ;D

the Omega PO beats under 28,800? I didn't know that.  I'm not really into accuracy. I have own Tissot with basic ETA of course the accuracy not reach to the chronometer level. Plus there is lot of factor determined the accuracy of mechanical watch. I love the way 28,800 vph watch second hand beats at 8 times to complete the one seconds. It looks smoother move than 21,600 vph movement.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: Everdying on July 01, 2015, 05:04:40 PM

the Omega PO beats under 28,800? I didn't know that.  I'm not really into accuracy. I have own Tissot with basic ETA of course the accuracy not reach to the chronometer level. Plus there is lot of factor determined the accuracy of mechanical watch. I love the way 28,800 vph watch second hand beats at 8 times to complete the one seconds. It looks smoother move than 21,600 vph movement.

the omega PO actually beats at 25200.
i think currently the only omegas that beats at 28800 are the chronos, while the last 3-hander ones were about 10yrs ago in the 2500B movement found in the aqua terras / constellations.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: EvolutionZ on July 12, 2015, 09:08:19 PM
as mentioned by some brothers here, Bell & Ross, price around 10k and it is a good piece, you have plenty of strap to change for different look and feel. Also there is plenty of pre-owned pieces going for less than 10k.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: Narco on July 20, 2015, 07:16:34 PM
Top up a little bit and go Tudor Pelagos.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: cyclonez14 on July 20, 2015, 09:56:58 PM
Top up a little bit and go Tudor Pelagos.
agreed..i would do d same

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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: dualcarb on July 21, 2015, 07:49:20 AM
or top up by just a little little biit and go for a Tudor Ranger.


Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: bwg353 on August 06, 2015, 10:43:21 PM
I would look into used tudor black bay, omega seamaster professional...or even a new longines legend diver. Not a big fan of brietling or bell n ross. No offence.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: hidden830726 on August 07, 2015, 05:17:12 AM
Tudur North Flag is my new favourite
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: Kesharoo on August 07, 2015, 08:56:55 AM
My choice would be a Breitling or a JDM seiko like MM300. Good luck on your hunt.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: nikfs1881 on August 07, 2015, 02:20:45 PM

My choice would be a Breitling or a JDM seiko like MM300. Good luck on your hunt.

I doubt you could get a decent Breitling for less than rm10k....unless if it's used or the quartz model which is not that appealing compared to other choices like the black bay.....


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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: clj on August 07, 2015, 03:32:43 PM
Top up a little bit and go Tudor Pelagos.

may i know how much is the new Pelagos?
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: gunsnroses on August 07, 2015, 03:46:37 PM
Top up a little bit and go Tudor Pelagos.

may i know how much is the new Pelagos?

Why don't you go AD and find out?
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: nikfs1881 on August 07, 2015, 04:07:23 PM

Top up a little bit and go Tudor Pelagos.

may i know how much is the new Pelagos?

One of the fellow forum member told me, the new pelagos is a few hundreds more expensive than the previous one... Around rm15k++ RsP


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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: arcsaber7 on August 07, 2015, 04:58:20 PM
I would suggest check it out on TUDOR. Gaining popularity and back up by Rolex know how.


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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: antoniosaprozeld on August 07, 2015, 07:16:18 PM
I'd add a couple k & go for preowned omega speedmaster or tudor blackshield or cartier santos XL..

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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: kypaulng on August 16, 2015, 07:24:41 PM
P :thumbsup:reowned Tag Heuer Carrera
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: alphaz on August 18, 2015, 09:21:16 AM
You can get a good condition preowned Omega Speedmaster Professional for less than 10k. But because our currency is weakening, plus GST and insured shipping might increase the net price significantly if buying from overseas.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: EvolutionZ on September 16, 2015, 09:04:19 PM
Pelagos at AD open price around 15k and they are still carrying the old model. not sure now they have new stock....that was last month.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: spacewalker on September 16, 2015, 11:57:17 PM
My hunt is over but with a dissapointed ending. The lesson that I learnt , buy the watch from a company that everyday they put an effort continuously improving their watch QUALITY, especially with a functionally design and of course a well tuned reliable movement. Do not influenced by their multi billion advertising campaign only.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: nikfs1881 on September 17, 2015, 01:14:04 AM

My hunt is over but with a dissapointed ending. The lesson that I learnt , buy the watch from a company that everyday they put an effort continuously improving their watch QUALITY, especially with a functionally design and of course a well tuned reliable movement. Do not influenced by their multi billion advertising campaign only.

What exactly do you mean by disappointing ending? Which watch brought you sorrow instead of sheer pleasure?


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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: D'Andy on September 17, 2015, 03:33:37 PM
Interesting conclusion although still grey. Am interested too on which watch did you ultimately went for and why the sorrow?
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: Cocas on June 08, 2016, 04:40:32 AM
Can try Bremont, Ball Hydrocarbon series, seiko marine master 300m.
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: adamjohari on June 08, 2016, 07:34:19 AM
I think a Tudor or Pre owned Omega would be the way to go. If you're more dressy, Nomos is around that range.
All the best
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: elado249 on June 08, 2016, 11:15:43 AM
Around 10k, for tudor u can get new black bay from AD, but u have to nego hard coz most AD does not give any discount on tudor now, if got only 5% (coz rolex sister's company, they trying to use same approach as rolex). Try tag, they recently released aquaracer with ceramic bezel, quite a beu..or oris (u can get good quality with good bargain). Ball also has a few good choices

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Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: asimo on June 08, 2016, 03:10:38 PM
saw many good pre-owned watches at MWF recently...  :Dancing_banana:


for RM10K there are plenty of choices...eg. Maurice Lacroix, Oris, Tissot skeleton, EPOS, B&R, Tudor, Omega Quartz,
Tag, Fortis, etc
Title: Re: Suggesstion for watch around 10K
Post by: dannyojw on June 13, 2016, 01:41:29 PM
hmmm....i think can get a entry level maurice laquiox