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Title: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: mikeylacroix on January 28, 2015, 09:42:12 PM

Both in house. Both 300m divers. Both awesome.
1 jap 1 swiss. 1 cosc 1 unregulated GS movement.
Some say the mm300 is superior by the $, some say its just plain better.
Some think the SubC is living on the Rolex mystique, some say it set the bar for all that followed.

The face:
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184216_resize_zpsckrikpti.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184206_resize_zpsm8lmjftj.jpg)
u can see the uneven lume application on the mm300
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/20141029_225307_resize_zps6c82c7e8.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184024_resize_zpsnkvk392q.jpg)

SubC has the piano black dial. MM300 more matte with some brown in it.
The white gold indices are a nice little touch, while the gilt gold has me swooning.
Both are 4 liners.

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_183850_resize_zpskx3vurk2.jpg)
the rehaut and raised chapter ring plus the domed crystal makes it a deep dial.
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/114060Submarine223_resize_zps11abe4a0.jpg)
some find the rolex engraved rehaut an overkill, I don't mind it.

I like the mercedes hands.
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184331_resize_zps5f6yylfn.jpg)
the fat hands of the mm300 are pretty kick ass though.
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184010_resize_zpsj5isynxp.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/20141029_225028_resize_zpse397605c.jpg)
lollypop vs traffic lights seconds hand
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Seiko%20SBDX012/20150127_224159_resize_zpscfzeq1ht.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184018_resize_zpsv0d7ahtw.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/114060Submarine226_resize_zps981f4eb7.jpg)

The case:
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184246_resize_zpsevmp0hlq.jpg)
1 monocoque, 1 with the tightest caseback ever.
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/20141029_225205_resize_zps65f62996.jpg)
1's all angles and sharp machined edges, 1 is all curvy and flowy.
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Seiko%20SBDX012/20150127_205045_resize_zpsx5b1axfe.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/20141029_225213_resize_zpsbdd29378.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Seiko%20SBDX012/20150127_205033_resize_zpsf7ukhtag.jpg)

Both 40mm. 1 super top heavy, 1 fits like a glove.
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184148_resize_zpspqg4frez.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184354_resize_zpsvwwnxvkm.jpg)
1 with some manly lugs, 1 with the 4 o'clock crown. I am glad there's no HEV.

The misc:
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184257_resize_zpsgkiz4yzp.jpg)
ceramic bezel is a winner.
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/114060Submarine218_resize_zps7ad00445.jpg)
recessed lume pip is kinda cool though
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Seiko%20SBDX012/20150127_224221_resize_zpsk6iqabdu.jpg)
the rolex bracelet is 2nd to none...i haven't even sized the seiko bracelet yet
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/20141029_225123_resize_zpscd7924f0.jpg)
unsigned crown is a bit sad
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Seiko%20SBDX012/20150127_204628_resize_zpsw1zhomci.jpg)

good thing the caseback is kinda fun
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Seiko%20SBDX012/20150127_204419_resize_zpsj6gkvsqj.jpg)

still very good lookin
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_183850_resize_zpskx3vurk2.jpg)
no slouch either
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/114060Submarine213_resize_zpse6cfcae9.jpg)

The conclusion:
The mm300 is superb FOR the $, but the SubC is still miles ahead as far as fit finish prestige etc etc.
The argument tends to be that its not 6k better...I would say so what..better is better. There is a place for both in a collection.

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184230_resize_zps2pi5iuqx.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184128_resize_zpstccuvzkd.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/SBDX012%20vs%20114060/20150128_184035_resize_zpsvffifaod.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/114060Submarine211_resize_zpsb3c68993.jpg)

Lume shots of course:
cool blue
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/114060%20Submarine%20083_resize_zpszisqcxbr.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Rolex%20Submariner%20114060/114060%20Submarine%20148_resize_zpsz5nbihkq.jpg)

nuclear
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Seiko%20SBDX012/20150127_204742_resize_zpsx1pnqmah.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/qrchandc26/Seiko%20SBDX012/2015-01-28%2023.28.53_resize_zpsrkwxwse9.jpg)

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: Narco on January 28, 2015, 09:53:46 PM

Darn good comparison u got there.. sub in my wish list. Hope it will soon become a reality.

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: Timeless on January 29, 2015, 05:44:57 AM

perfect match.. duo sub's are stunning

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: Zen8 on January 29, 2015, 06:04:38 AM

Thank you Mikey for the detailed comparison :thumbsup:!!

Look wise, SubC is definitley more pleasing to me. ;D

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: meoramri on January 29, 2015, 06:34:25 AM

Excellent piece! well done.

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: Omnipotent on January 29, 2015, 07:18:56 AM

kudos to the fine pics and one-liners...makes me appreciate my subc even more

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: Yoda on January 29, 2015, 08:32:23 AM

......and MM LE is a limited 1,000 pieces.

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: sshark on January 29, 2015, 08:38:13 AM

I love deep glossy black dial offered by piano black dial and the golden hands against a black dial. I love both and yeah, both has their places in any collectors' collection.

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: Yoda on January 29, 2015, 07:48:51 PM

Quote from: sshark on January 29, 2015, 08:38:13 AM

I love deep glossy black dial offered by piano black dial and the golden hands against a black dial. I love both and yeah, both has their places in any collectors' collection.

I strongly agreed with you both have their places in any collectors' diver watch collection. My collections pictures from my hand phone.

(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/leong33/Collectors_zps9d49d65d.jpg)

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: harkensng on January 29, 2015, 08:43:06 PM

Beautiful group shot master yoda  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: Nobby on January 30, 2015, 07:11:57 AM

The Seiko's proportions are all wrong...A real fat watch  :P

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: swleong on January 30, 2015, 07:45:24 AM

Lovely lovely photos as usual and nice topic as well.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: sshark on January 30, 2015, 08:53:19 AM

fat watches for fat divers... just kidding ;)

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: dualcarb on January 30, 2015, 09:41:25 AM

Great review. Thank you for sharing and comparing. And for the great photos as well...


Patrick

Title: Re: Seiko SBDX012 vs Rolex 114060: someone's gotta do it.
Post by: hidden830726 on February 02, 2015, 08:36:59 AM

Thanks for pictures