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Title: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: stevenfish89 on January 01, 2015, 05:06:15 PM
Hi all watch lovers  :),

First of all, happy new year 2015 and best wishes everyone :Cheers:! I joined this forum almost fell months and it's really interesting (especially the "what is on your wrist today? (Part 2)") which everyone is sharing the pictures of their "baby" or you can call it "wife" and definitely learn a lot from wrist knowledge from all the discussion.

Since the poison in me is quite bad right now, and i would like to get my 1st Swiss made automatic watch by my own 2014 hard work (bonus) with budget constraint (got some commitment currently). Due to i'm still newbie in this and require some sifus here can recommend me few brand with pictures base on your preferences according to the criteria as below:-

Size : prefer 40mm above
Movement : Swiss made
Watch type : 3 hand and not prefer chronograph at this moment
Usage : Office wear (therefore is simple and nice)
Budget : RM3000 or .....
Others : Prefer black leather strap with Folding Clasp Buckle (this is not so important  ;D)

Feel free to comments and hopefully i able to purchase it before CNY this year.

Thank you  :thumbsup: !
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: CKL1213 on January 01, 2015, 05:15:00 PM
I'm sure you will get a lot "why don't you save up some for ..."
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: mike on January 01, 2015, 06:01:40 PM
Get a pre owned watch. Many pre owned market now. Can go and have a look which watch is in ur budget.
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: Nutralife on January 01, 2015, 06:15:51 PM
If you prefer a new one for half the budget, You may want to consider Steinhart Ocean 1. Good looking and value for the money.

(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m631/nutralife/BF1352B5-AE4A-4E6B-8EF0-5611AEC8EB1B.jpg) (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/nutralife/media/BF1352B5-AE4A-4E6B-8EF0-5611AEC8EB1B.jpg.html)

Or look around for a 2nd hand piece within your budget range.
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: TJWN on January 01, 2015, 06:22:20 PM
3000 or lower/higher?

Lower: tissot visodate, Hamilton intramatic, glycine combat, junghans max bill handwind.

Personally recommend Hamilton intramatic (if you don't mind its a two hand watch) or max bill (if you don't mind handwind)/the automatic one is price higher than 3k
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: hidden830726 on January 01, 2015, 06:39:22 PM
Take a look at Stowa Flieger too. Off course their Marine / Antea range might interest you too.

Slightly lower than your budget, ETA movement, date or no date up to you, black dial, black leather strap. Suitable for office wear.

The company with good reputation / service too.

EUR 705 + Fedex Delivery will be around = RM3180.03

Delivery Time: End of January 2015

(http://www.stowa.de/cosmoshop/pix/a/z/fliegerohnelogo/g/Flieger_o_logo_o_datum_bl_Zeiger_5.jpg)
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: cklim on January 01, 2015, 08:10:45 PM
What about Luminox Field 1801 with ETA movement? Big in size at 43mm, solid yet nice looking, price nearly rm3k after discount.
(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah113/cklim_1971/Mobile%20Uploads/mt-1807_1-1_zps0b06d477.jpg)
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: Timeless on January 01, 2015, 08:55:53 PM
SevenFriday or Ball
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: hidden830726 on January 01, 2015, 10:16:58 PM
TS want for office wear i think
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: james on January 02, 2015, 05:29:10 AM
go for seven friday m-series  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: Everdying on January 02, 2015, 07:05:57 AM
i will echo what TJWN said.
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: JeepWH on January 02, 2015, 07:30:03 AM
The Tissot Visodate mentioned by TJWN is nice
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: mike on January 02, 2015, 03:48:02 PM
go for seven friday m-series  :thumbsup:
Tell me something good about SevenFriday, design otherwise ;D
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: echoesian on January 02, 2015, 09:38:30 PM
Take a look at Stowa Flieger too. Off course their Marine / Antea range might interest you too.

Slightly lower than your budget, ETA movement, date or no date up to you, black dial, black leather strap. Suitable for office wear.

The company with good reputation / service too.

EUR 705 + Fedex Delivery will be around = RM3180.03

Delivery Time: End of January 2015

(http://www.stowa.de/cosmoshop/pix/a/z/fliegerohnelogo/g/Flieger_o_logo_o_datum_bl_Zeiger_5.jpg)

Interested in this watch too but I have two clarifications:

1) Are we paying the price with VAT or without VAT?
2) Is it cheaper to buy locally here? If yes, where can I find it in the Klang Valley?
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: stevenfish89 on January 03, 2015, 06:11:42 AM
Hi all,

Omgosh  :o, can't believe i can get a lot of comments and suggestion within 1 day maybe. (Sorry, recently busy working till late night and have to time to log in to forum.)

Hi CKL1213,
thanks for your comment ya, haha.. u mean save up some for..? Rolex? ermmm.. good suggestion, but i think will be quite sometime haha.. thinking to get a newbie or you can say virgin swiss watch.. TQ

Hi mikster,
thanks for your comment ya, ermm.. good suggestion, but due to i'm looking for a low budget watch so i think prefer new at this moment. Perhaps, can you suggest some reliable pre owned market which i can go and visit? TQVM

Hi Nutralife,
thanks for your comment ya, i heard about this brand and do reviewed some of the members in this forum regarding this model. Nice and is looks like rolex tho, haha. At this moment i looking for leather strap instead of bracelet type of watch. TQ

Hi TJWN,
thanks for your comment ya, what i can say is PERFECT ! that's i'm talking about.. really nice suggestion which i personally do some research for Junghans Max Bill and Tissot Visodate as well. Meanwhile, last weekends which i pass by 1 of the Oris AD and saw 1 model is quite nice which around my budget (Don't know the exactly which model). Still considering among all the brand. Need your help ya, if for Oris brand will you still stick to Hamilton intramatic for your 1st choice among the all that you suggested? TQ

Hi hidden830726,
thanks for your comment ya, same question from echoesia that do they have any AD in Malaysia or maybe Klang Valley so that i can pay a visit? TQ

Hi cklim,
thanks for your comment ya, very nice timepiece which i nearly forget about this famous brand Luminox. But, i went to some of the shop which carry this brand but i hardly see this model. Normally will be the Navy SEAL model. Do you have any idea which i can pay a visit and physically hands on of this beautiful watch? TQ

Hi femann,
thanks for your comment ya, I love Ball watches which i personally owned 1 (which is from my dad almost 10 years ago and i recently went for polish with service). At this moment, i trying to look for out of this brand and i know Ball is out of my budget brand for sure. Meanwhile, ya SevenFriday very unique watch but the size is quite Big thoo and i read some review that this watch is not using Swiss Movement with something Miyota Movement (pls correct if i'm wrong). anyway, TQ  ;D

Hi james,
thanks for your comment ya, ermmm.. i think is still too big for my long sleeve shirt (office wear) even though the design of this watch is totally unique. anyway, TQ ya

Hi Everdying,
thanks for your comment ya, YES ! totally agree !

Hi JeepWH,
thanks for your comment ya, yes bro. really nice timepiece which i personally went to 1 of the Tissot AD and have a look for this. Is looks vintage with the "tissot" words there. Meanwhile, i'm still doing a little bit of research and comments from all watch lovers here before i make a decision. TQ

Thank you guys and you guys are ROCK  :Dancing_banana:!

Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: cklim on January 03, 2015, 09:59:25 AM
Hi stevenfish89,

I saw many Luminox models (including Field 1801) in Wxxx at Tropicana City Mall.
You may also consider Mido and Certina as these brands hardly advertise, thus their watches are not over-price (we don't have to pay for advertisement fee) or over-expose (too common)  ;D
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: mikeylacroix on January 04, 2015, 06:09:44 AM
SevenFriday uses a miyota8s27 movement..it is NOT swiss lol.
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: TJWN on January 04, 2015, 03:14:06 PM
Hi all,

Hi TJWN,
thanks for your comment ya, what i can say is PERFECT ! that's i'm talking about.. really nice suggestion which i personally do some research for Junghans Max Bill and Tissot Visodate as well. Meanwhile, last weekends which i pass by 1 of the Oris AD and saw 1 model is quite nice which around my budget (Don't know the exactly which model). Still considering among all the brand. Need your help ya, if for Oris brand will you still stick to Hamilton intramatic for your 1st choice among the all that you suggested? TQ

Thank you guys and you guys are ROCK  :Dancing_banana:!

When your question is structured in a way that is specific, it is easier for us to help  :thumbsup:

reason for me recommend the intramatic is because of the 2892 movement ticking inside, you rarely see another brand that put a 2892 into the watch at this price range...

(the 2892 movement is thinner and much smooth to wind compare to the 2824 movement [the 2824 is widely used by automatic watch with "swiss made" movement among this price point, the 2892 (or the modified 2892) is equipped by watches that is priced at a higher price point for example: B&R, IWC, Omega, Perrelet, etc)

For Tissot visodate: the price is much cheaper
For Max Bill: the story and heritage behind it is priceless

Not sure which Oris you saw...perhaps a picture could help  :)
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: hidden830726 on January 05, 2015, 10:52:05 AM
Take a look at Stowa Flieger too. Off course their Marine / Antea range might interest you too.

Slightly lower than your budget, ETA movement, date or no date up to you, black dial, black leather strap. Suitable for office wear.

The company with good reputation / service too.

EUR 705 + Fedex Delivery will be around = RM3180.03

Delivery Time: End of January 2015


Interested in this watch too but I have two clarifications:

1) Are we paying the price with VAT or without VAT? Malaysia is without VAT. As long as outside Europe
2) Is it cheaper to buy locally here? If yes, where can I find it in the Klang Valley? Stowa is not a boutique watch, it is often made to order, and only available through their online store. Basically, you place an order, wait for your turn, pay before they made your watch, and they post to you. The only way you can try one is through any owner. But there are tons of reviews available in the net and official forum at watchuseek for your reference and query. Hope it helps.
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: hidden830726 on January 05, 2015, 10:57:43 AM
 :thumbsup: Agreed on the 2892 in the intramatic, but just slightly small for my preference.

 :thumbsup: also for Max Bill

Take a look at Nomos too, but above your budget
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: Omnipotent on January 05, 2015, 12:41:01 PM
you can get Ball Fireman series around your budget... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: stevenfish89 on January 07, 2015, 07:15:43 PM
Hi cklim,
Thank you, i will drop by Tropicana City Mall once i free to have a look on Luminox timepiece. Mido i do have 1 which is last year present from my dad (Mido Commander ii Chronograph 2013). Still love it so much.. Certina i heard about this brand too but is there any model that fit in my requirements? TQ :thumbsup:

Hi TJWN,
Thanks for your advise, if i want to specific ermm.. something like Junghans Max Bill or Nomos type of watch.. Simple and nice with 3 hand only. I will consider as well the Hamilton Intramatic which i read through alot of watch review regarding the movement. Thanks again for your suggestion. Btw, is there any watch outlet or AD who carry this brand. The only AD i know is Watatime at Sunway which currently renovation. TQ  :thumbsup:

Hi hidden830726,
Agreed ! The Intramatic is nice when i watch review from youtube and i prefer 42mm model instead of 38mm model. Ermm.. regarding Nomos i do notice that is made in germany rite? but i love the simple and unique design. Is there any AD in Malaysia carry this brand? TQ  :thumbsup:

Hi Omnipotent,
Noted, will take a second consider for Ball model if i really can't find a watch that love in the first sight. btw, do u know roughly how much will be Ball Firemen Racer Classic cost? TQ  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: cklim on January 15, 2015, 06:12:28 PM
Personally i like Certina square design which stand out from others.
Although its size does not meet your requirement (only 38mm), at least it comes with black leather strap and folding clasp. Just my suggestion.
(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah113/cklim_1971/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150115_205414_zps6e6e5e01.jpg)
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: ericys on January 15, 2015, 07:58:10 PM
Take a look at Longines Hydroconquest model. Movement based on ETA 2824. A company full of history since 19th Century. May burst your budget slightly though. You can easily find some good condition used timepieces on Ebay.

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah236/ericys/L36424566_zpsac8c3e63.jpg) (http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/ericys/media/L36424566_zpsac8c3e63.jpg.html)

Case diameter is 41mm with 300m water resistance

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah236/ericys/L36964536_zps83dbc0b8.jpg) (http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/ericys/media/L36964536_zps83dbc0b8.jpg.html)

Here is the chrono timepiece also at 41mm and 300m water resistance

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah236/ericys/IMG_20141217_092238_zpsae3a5803.jpg) (http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/ericys/media/IMG_20141217_092238_zpsae3a5803.jpg.html)

I'm wearing a smaller hydroconquest at 39mm.
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: stevenfish89 on January 28, 2015, 07:20:37 PM
Hi cklim,
haha, thanks for your comment. I tried some square design watches earlier but my wrist still look nice on normal shape (circle).  ;)

Hi ericys,
thanks for your comment. The non-chrono Longines Hydroconquest very nice but.. still prefer leather strap at the moment. Haha, i will suggest to my friend who current looking for bracelet watch. ;D
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: stevenfish89 on January 28, 2015, 07:39:36 PM
First of all, thanks again all watch fans here comments and i really appreciate it a lot ! ! You guys are awesome  :Dancing_banana:

But.. again, need you all help.. again !  :P

I just back shopping earlier which i walked in an AD just now and the salesgirl very friendly and very good service. Of course quite best price with good discount that she offered.
*I slightly increase my budget due to GST coming and Swiss watch brand price gonna adjust soon (not sure this which the salesgirl told me and please correct me if i',m wrong).

Now, my eyes on this model by MontBlanc Star Date Automatic with Ident Number 107114.
(http://photowatches.eu/albums/kibi/montblanc/star_steel/thumb_DSC_0034.jpg)
Really need your comment on this model or any advise..
1) Is it good and worth to own this or any other brand/model with this price range that recommended?
2) How about the movement which i notice that it using sellita movement and according to the salesgirl?

Really appreciate your comment on this ! TQVM :Praying:
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: mike on January 28, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
Not a bad watch. Classy design, good everyday watch. In terms of value wouldn't be so great. Great watch to keep, not to resell. Mont Blanc tho has been catching up with higher end swiss watchmakers and really making some serious watches with their most recent releases from SIHH 2015 as well as Baselworld 2014.
Movement wise not a problem to me. Sellita or ETA are all very good movements with accuracy even better than most high end movements, providing that it can be regulated to cosc standard. People think it as a problem as it is more to mass production movements and not worth high values thus they rather pay for a better movement than "just" an ETA or sellita.
Go ahead and pull the trigger before the price increase, if you really really like the watch. And yes, the price will be increasing soon as affected by currency.
For otherwise choices, maybe have a look at the pre owned markets. You might find something good at your budget.

Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: hidden830726 on January 28, 2015, 08:19:07 PM
haha, after i read your post,

I cant help but ask, is the sales girl pretty  :Laughing_on_floor:

Love at first sight with the watch? If yes, go ahead

mikster pretty much sums up my thought as well.

But i do suggest you do more window shopping before buying.... maybe you will have other love  :Dancing_banana:
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: Narco on January 28, 2015, 09:06:40 PM
Can't help asking the same question as hidden830726.  ;D
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: Clicko on January 28, 2015, 09:20:10 PM
Do check out Certina DS Powermatic 80 (80 is 80hrs power reserve). This is value for money Swiss watch and much cheaper than your target price and meets all your criteria.
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: hidden830726 on January 28, 2015, 09:44:26 PM
First of all, thanks again all watch fans here comments and i really appreciate it a lot ! ! You guys are awesome  :Dancing_banana:

But.. again, need you all help.. again !  :P

I just back shopping earlier which i walked in an AD just now and the salesgirl very friendly and very good service. Of course quite best price with good discount that she offered.
*I slightly increase my budget due to GST coming and Swiss watch brand price gonna adjust soon (not sure this which the salesgirl told me and please correct me if i',m wrong).

Now, my eyes on this model by MontBlanc Star Date Automatic with Ident Number 107114.
(http://photowatches.eu/albums/kibi/montblanc/star_steel/thumb_DSC_0034.jpg)
Really need your comment on this model or any advise..
1) Is it good and worth to own this or any other brand/model with this price range that recommended?
2) How about the movement which i notice that it using sellita movement and according to the salesgirl?

Really appreciate your comment on this ! TQVM :Praying:

Off course im curious, TS mentioned the salesgirl 4 times in his post.
Title: Re: My First Swiss Automatic Watch, need your advise !
Post by: Narco on January 28, 2015, 09:49:11 PM
Must visit this shop  ;D