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Title: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: echoesian on November 29, 2014, 12:56:57 PM
Anyone have the experience owning this watch? I kind of like this watch with its simplicity and elegant look. However I'm not using if the ETA 2892 movement is worth the price or not. Is this movement accurate enough? In this price range, would there be other better value watch instead of this?
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: squasub on November 29, 2014, 01:12:41 PM
if i am not mistaken, xvii is using top grade eta 2892 which is very good and reliable, even some watchmakers prefer more than rolex 3135 movement. you can read more here

http://www.chronometrie.com/rolex3135/rolex3135.html
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: echoesian on November 29, 2014, 01:20:38 PM
if i am not mistaken, xvii is using top grade eta 2892 which is very good and reliable, even some watchmakers prefer more than rolex 3135 movement. you can read more here

http://www.chronometrie.com/rolex3135/rolex3135.html

Wow... this sounds amazing... with half of that price...
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: echoesian on November 29, 2014, 02:18:36 PM
I heard people saying that his watch is using ETA 2892-A2 which many budget range watch manufacturer like Hamilton and Tissot also have its watch using this movement which selling for under RM2k. Is this true?
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: Timeless on November 30, 2014, 03:03:12 PM
price sounds tremendously low, I thought this movement of the price range is above 5k regardless what's the watch branch carrying this movement
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: echoesian on November 30, 2014, 05:23:22 PM
price sounds tremendously low, I thought this movement of the price range is above 5k regardless what's the watch branch carrying this movement

This means this watch is overpriced by 2x?
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: squasub on November 30, 2014, 05:57:06 PM
I heard people saying that his watch is using ETA 2892-A2 which many budget range watch manufacturer like Hamilton and Tissot also have its watch using this movement which selling for under RM2k. Is this true?

hamilton and tissot probably using elabore grade 2892(not top grade) and take note that iwc usually using higher quality of material and workmanship than other cheaper priced brands.
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: dualcarb on November 30, 2014, 06:55:51 PM
My cousin brother was seriously considering this watch, the IWC mark XVII. For this price range, I suggested that he consider the Rolex Explorer I 39mm instead. Eventually after a month of research he opted for the GMT IIC LN, which stretched his budget by a little. But he is so much happier with the watch. Don't get me wrong, I not an IWC hater as I used to have two in my stable before. Love it's history and elegant design. But with it's history and robustness, I'd opt for a Rolex hands down. So since you have the budget for the IWC, why not consider the explorer I? Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: echoesian on December 02, 2014, 12:09:33 PM
My cousin brother was seriously considering this watch, the IWC mark XVII. For this price range, I suggested that he consider the Rolex Explorer I 39mm instead. Eventually after a month of research he opted for the GMT IIC LN, which stretched his budget by a little. But he is so much happier with the watch. Don't get me wrong, I not an IWC hater as I used to have two in my stable before. Love it's history and elegant design. But with it's history and robustness, I'd opt for a Rolex hands down. So since you have the budget for the IWC, why not consider the explorer I? Just my thoughts.

The explorer is at 39mm, I prefer 40mm above. What is the price range for explorer I anyway? The new explorer II is 20k++

My wish is to own that GMT II as well, however due to budget constraint, the Mark XVII is within my budget range at this time. The price difference between the GMT II and Mark XVII is quite significant for me, the Rolex is actually more than RM10k more. The IWC after discount is [do not discuss on price] where as the Rolex list price is RM26k !
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: treason on December 02, 2014, 01:56:33 PM
I believe brand new EXP 1 39mm is around 17k+ range from grey importers. Must you buy new? If new the only other watch in that price range I can think of is a Tudor Blackbay..not too familiar with Omega prices but I think maybe the Aqua Terra would fit the bill too?

If you dont mind used and hunt hard enough you can get EXP 1, EXP 2, Sub no date, IWC 377701 etc for around the 12-13k ish range..will hold its value for sure so you wont lose much or any at all when u decide to trade up...

Just my 2 cents! Happy hunting!
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: TJWN on December 02, 2014, 02:28:17 PM
At
price sounds tremendously low, I thought this movement of the price range is above 5k regardless what's the watch branch carrying this movement


I thought so as well, until I saw the Hamilton Intramatic  ;)  with 10mm thickness...at offcial retail price of USD870
(http://professionalwatches.com/upload/2013/09/review_hamilton_intra-matic/Hamilton-Intra-Matic-Side-Shot_DxO-1-X3-thumb-660x440-19700.jpg)
(http://professionalwatches.com/upload/2013/09/review_hamilton_intra-matic/Hamilton-Intra-Matic-caseback_DxO-1-X3-thumb-660x440-19706.jpg)
(http://professionalwatches.com/upload/2013/09/review_hamilton_intra-matic/P1010070-X3-thumb-660x440-19708.jpg)

Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: squasub on December 02, 2014, 05:26:35 PM
eta 2892 is a thin movement..thinner than rolexs' and other etas
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: thewatcher on February 16, 2015, 10:36:24 AM
My cousin brother was seriously considering this watch, the IWC mark XVII. For this price range, I suggested that he consider the Rolex Explorer I 39mm instead. Eventually after a month of research he opted for the GMT IIC LN, which stretched his budget by a little. But he is so much happier with the watch. Don't get me wrong, I not an IWC hater as I used to have two in my stable before. Love it's history and elegant design. But with it's history and robustness, I'd opt for a Rolex hands down. So since you have the budget for the IWC, why not consider the explorer I? Just my thoughts.

The explorer is at 39mm, I prefer 40mm above. What is the price range for explorer I anyway? The new explorer II is 20k++

My wish is to own that GMT II as well, however due to budget constraint, the Mark XVII is within my budget range at this time. The price difference between the GMT II and Mark XVII is quite significant for me, the Rolex is actually more than RM10k more. The IWC after discount is RM11k++ where as the Rolex list price is RM26k !

Hi there, care to share where you found Mark XVII for [do not discuss on price]+? I went to the boutique and the price is nowhere near that. I am interested in buying this
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: chrisyen on March 02, 2015, 10:05:05 PM
I heard people saying that his watch is using ETA 2892-A2 which many budget range watch manufacturer like Hamilton and Tissot also have its watch using this movement which selling for under RM2k. Is this true?

hamilton and tissot probably using elabore grade 2892(not top grade) and take note that iwc usually using higher quality of material and workmanship than other cheaper priced brands.

not true. tissot and hamilton using eta-2824-2 or day date version Eta 2836

only higher end brands use Eta 2892-A2. its much more expensive than Eta 2824-2 top grade, you find this movement in
IWC, Cartier, Bell & Ross, Omega, etc
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: sidestreaker on March 02, 2015, 10:34:22 PM
It may be worth mentioning that IWC did their part in developing the ETA 2892-A2 variant by Richard Habring when he was working for IWC.

http://people.timezone.com/library/tzints/tzints631685739687608484
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: WestwoodTrading on March 03, 2015, 08:44:34 PM
Definitely IWC pilot mark XVII are worth to buy and collect.
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: miseralim on March 05, 2015, 02:41:14 PM
My cousin brother was seriously considering this watch, the IWC mark XVII. For this price range, I suggested that he consider the Rolex Explorer I 39mm instead. Eventually after a month of research he opted for the GMT IIC LN, which stretched his budget by a little. But he is so much happier with the watch. Don't get me wrong, I not an IWC hater as I used to have two in my stable before. Love it's history and elegant design. But with it's history and robustness, I'd opt for a Rolex hands down. So since you have the budget for the IWC, why not consider the explorer I? Just my thoughts.

The explorer is at 39mm, I prefer 40mm above. What is the price range for explorer I anyway? The new explorer II is 20k++

My wish is to own that GMT II as well, however due to budget constraint, the Mark XVII is within my budget range at this time. The price difference between the GMT II and Mark XVII is quite significant for me, the Rolex is actually more than [do not discuss on price] more. The IWC after discount is [do not discuss on price]where as the Rolex list price is RM26k !

Hi there, care to share where you found Mark XVII for [do not discuss on price]+? I went to the boutique and the price is nowhere near that. I am interested in buying this

I also wonder where someone can get it for [do not discuss on price], i just bought mine [do not discuss on price]
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: thewatcher on March 05, 2015, 09:39:13 PM

Hi there, care to share where you found Mark XVII for [do not discuss on price]+? I went to the boutique and the price is nowhere near that. I am interested in buying this

I also wonder where someone can get it for [do not discuss on price], i just bought mine @[do not discuss on price]

Can you share where you bought yours? i looked around and it sells for [do not discuss on price]
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: kingpin on March 05, 2015, 10:27:09 PM
I don't think you can get [do not discuss on price] ++, the max will be around [do not discuss on price]. Anyway I got a Chrono. Looks better.
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: thewatcher on March 06, 2015, 01:55:37 PM
I can't even find [do not discuss on price]any more. maybe for this year they have changed their pricing. Chrono is also out of stock.
Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: sidestreaker on March 06, 2015, 02:45:23 PM
The Chrono is always a popular one. After visiting a few AD and boutiques, I found out that it doesn't stay on the shelf for very long.

If the price can't go down any further, you may want consider getting the bracelet version to get more value out of it...

Title: Re: IWC Pilot Mark XVII
Post by: kingpin on March 07, 2015, 01:44:04 PM
I can't even find [do not discuss on price]any more. maybe for this year they have changed their pricing. Chrono is also out of stock.

I think it is still possible because I was hunting the "pilot" before CNY, but I heard that the price will go up after CNY. Anyway I got a chrono!!
Yeah, I was looking around in KL and PJ areas. Most of the ADs do not have the stock, but I was lucky that I found one and the watch was just arrived the day before. So yeah!! I got what I want and happy for it now.