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Title: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: TheWatchMan on July 09, 2014, 10:44:06 PM
With the impending GST coming in Apr 2015, how will it affect your spending on watches? Will you quickly buy some from your wishlist before GST? What is your view and your plan? I am thinking to get 1 or 2 before GST.
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: dpkong on July 09, 2014, 11:15:37 PM
Buy from grey dealer. No GST.
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: Yoda on July 10, 2014, 04:36:47 AM
Was told all watches came in from overseas will be subjected to GST e.g if purchase through online and even bring in pass the custom at the arrival hall.

Like what dpkong said he is right

 :-X

 
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: kenji1903 on July 10, 2014, 05:55:56 AM
Was told all watches came in from overseas will be subjected to GST e.g if purchase through online and even bring in pass the custom at the arrival hall.

Like what dpkong said he is right

 :-X

 
love the malaysian customs, anyone can go thru without being checked :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: D'Andy on July 10, 2014, 08:01:54 AM
I'm quite a fan of buying online as I've seen savings during previous purchases from Singapore, UK, Germany and Switzerland. With the upcoming GST, I guess it's time to pay our dues in due course then.
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: ck77 on July 10, 2014, 08:17:08 AM
As far as I know, all businesses are subject to GST.
Only exception of few, sadly watches are subject to GST, including ADs or grey dealers.
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: contender on July 10, 2014, 08:55:25 AM
BUY NOW before GST kicks in ..... BUY BUY BUY or else BYE BYE BYE  :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: Yoda on July 10, 2014, 09:37:40 AM
Yeah there's another good excuse to load stocks  ;D
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: swleong on July 10, 2014, 09:40:32 AM
Buy from grey dealer. No GST.

+1

And also service watches at non-authorised service centre, also no GST, hopefully  :Praying:
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: panlex on July 10, 2014, 01:57:19 PM
I am afraid GST will affect all businesses including grey dealers… unless they opt-out of GST which doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: Calibr on July 10, 2014, 08:58:09 PM
Prices will go up, but discounts will be there to encourage business, as the market softens. Post GST, the buyers will generally wait and see, before business gets better.  :Startled:
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: ExplorerII on July 14, 2014, 06:05:26 PM
Was told all watches came in from overseas will be subjected to GST e.g if purchase through online and even bring in pass the custom at the arrival hall.

Like what dpkong said he is right

 :-X

 Just wear it on your wrist when you pass through customs and I think you should be fine.  Although they might decide to check your bag for the box and receipt !
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: hidden830726 on July 14, 2014, 10:34:08 PM
Well, im no expert, but from my limited knowledge so far, i thought only businesses in Malaysia with revenue >500K will subject to GST? So if buy from oversea should not cost any GST?
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: chrisyen on July 14, 2014, 11:19:12 PM
there is GST import, which is 6%

applicable to all oversea product into malaysia...

so buying watches online will sure trigger this when it reach custom msia
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: kygan711 on July 15, 2014, 05:56:26 PM
This is what I learned from the gst seminar recently. If you :
-are conducting a business for profit
-located in Malaysia
- above or forecasted to hit 500k per annum

You need to register for gst account. So means they have to charge up the 6 percent on their selling price unless they don't give breakdown and absorb or just simply tell u a lame excuse that price of watch went up globally.

Do double check
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: kenji1903 on July 17, 2014, 08:16:51 AM
Was told all watches came in from overseas will be subjected to GST e.g if purchase through online and even bring in pass the custom at the arrival hall.

Like what dpkong said he is right

 :-X

 Just wear it on your wrist when you pass through customs and I think you should be fine.  Although they might decide to check your bag for the box and receipt !
keep the receipt somewhere safe... i don't think they can tax you if its a gift ;D
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: hidden830726 on July 17, 2014, 11:15:19 AM
Then BBB mode loh.
Title: Do you think GST will make the price up.
Post by: uncleben3232 on August 19, 2014, 02:05:44 PM
Do you think GST coming next year, will the price will go up for all watches .
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: hidden830726 on August 19, 2014, 06:47:01 PM
Planing to get one more stowa from Germany... Now.. Sigh...
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: Gigi on August 20, 2014, 08:38:26 PM
Well watch retailler going to get bad business cos they have gst onto their goods. For tourist still not a prob as they can reclaim the gst at airport.

Well if we bought watch in overseas and carry by hand back to malaysia should not have any problem cos they don really check. Hell i even bought 2 liters of whisky back and pass tru kastom like boss  :police:
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: ckoh on August 20, 2014, 09:10:28 PM
the price of the watch will be reduced, like in japan, after implementing gst for few months, the price of luxury items start to drop, because consumers slow down buying luxury items, but only benefit to tourist , they can get the gst refund when leaving the country.     
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: JeepWH on August 21, 2014, 07:18:04 AM
Definitely the prices will increase.  :Mad:
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: Timeless on August 21, 2014, 07:24:35 AM
Grey dealer shouldn't have get, but AD will impact for sure
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: JPSP on August 21, 2014, 07:30:46 AM
the price of the watch will be reduced, like in japan, after implementing gst for few months, the price of luxury items start to drop, because consumers slow down buying luxury items, but only benefit to tourist , they can get the gst refund when leaving the country.   

I doubt so.

Brands are controlling discounts and increasing their prices every year to beat previous year's revenue. ADs stuck in the middle of this. Tax will only benefit the government because tourists will not be able to claim the full tax amount when they leave Malaysia.
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: TJWN on August 23, 2014, 07:55:34 AM
Grey dealer shouldn't have get, but AD will impact for sure

IF only the grey dealer SALES volume for period of 12 month is less than 500k then he no need to register.
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: CKL1213 on August 23, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
less than 500k or more than 500k, you still need to register, because...

your supplier will charge you 6% GST even though your annual turnover less than 500k, and you can't claim the input GST if you are not registered and are you kind enough not to charge your customer without the 6% ?



Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: kygan711 on August 23, 2014, 08:17:54 PM
I think there may be 2 perspective.

1) If you are a service provider then you wont need to claim back any GST since you are the producer your self such as advertising creative agency, cleaning agency for eg.

2) if you are a trader/ distributor/ selling stuff which are produced by someone, then you need a GST account to claim back the GST which your product supplier sell to you with the GST included unless they are below 500K which I think it a very low chance and you maybe dealing with many suppliers then it will even be slimmer chance unless all also newly setup manufacturers.

Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: roystock on August 23, 2014, 09:56:36 PM
I believe buying from AD, grey dealer and oversea will cost more after the GST implementation.
To tackle this, BUY NOW, or buy pre-owned from our fellow private collector here, sure no GST   :D
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: STeeLPrOpheT on August 29, 2014, 08:44:28 PM
With the impending GST coming in Apr 2015, how will it affect your spending on watches? Will you quickly buy some from your wishlist before GST? What is your view and your plan? I am thinking to get 1 or 2 before GST.

For authorized dealer with ready stocks, there is the sense of urgency, but, grey / pre-owned not so much.
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: Lazarus7247 on August 30, 2014, 03:02:36 PM
Most probably buy from other country and claim back VAT or GST. Hahaha
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: chengho99 on September 16, 2014, 06:14:11 PM
We can ask foreigner to buy for us and claim back GST
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: nasa on September 16, 2014, 08:50:11 PM
My grey dealer friends said that buy whatever watches that u want latest by dec 2014..Coz they'll start to raise it gradually to factoring the GST even b4 April 2015 since they are expecting the demand will increase as the GST date of implementation goes nearer..I don't really understand the logic as I just saw it like another chance of "milking" the situation..Whatever it is I have a few "targets" of my own that I intend to complete it by the end of 2014..GST or not!!
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: Conscript on September 17, 2014, 11:17:00 AM
Well this will be a good excuse for us to add some new piece to the collection  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: CKL1213 on September 17, 2014, 12:01:10 PM
Well this will be a good excuse for us to add some new piece to the collection  :Laughing_on_floor:

however the wife won't agree  :HammerHead:
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: Clicko on September 18, 2014, 01:24:35 PM
GST is not friendly to watch collectors. Hope to get 1 or 2 before year end.
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: JeepWH on September 18, 2014, 05:53:11 PM
As long as before April 2014 can already la
Title: Re: Your view of watch prices post-GST
Post by: Dav6534 on September 23, 2014, 01:14:55 AM
Bought a watch before the GST take place! hahaha