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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: haaha on June 26, 2014, 05:41:31 PM
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Hi, I want to know how many types of watch movement are there actually? And what makes it different? I found that there is Quartz movement, Electronic Digital Movement, Japanese Miyota 2025, but I've no idea what's that mean.. if you remember any of other watch movement, please explain it to me too. I've no idea what's "watch movement" means.. ??? ??? sorry if you think this question is stupid. :-\
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Its not stupid, everyone started knowing nothing too!
Watch movement is basically the mechanic in the watch that works the watch. Every single watch will have a movement, including replicas, and movements are the main reason why watches are expensive.
There are a few type of movement, which is quartz, digital, automatic self winding, spring drive and automatic mechanical winding. Every single type of movement have different kind of accuracy, physical appearance, functions, and the most importantly lasting period. Automatic watches have swiping hands, quartz have jumping hands. And also automatic watch does not require any batteries!!
This is a simple video of how it works :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0SSxHMBPVc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0SSxHMBPVc)
Automatic movements will last longer than quartz and digital movement, and worth a lot because it is something very very difficult to make, a kind of art not most people know how to appreciate.
Either than that, where the movement is made. Believe it or not, even Malaysia makes movements for Seiko, calling it Malaysian Movement. The well known ones will be Swiss, made in Switzerland of course, German, Japan. China makes movements too!
However, there are also companies that makes movements and sell it to watch manufacturers, examples like ETA and Sellita from Swiss, Miyota from Japan and Seagull from China. Most of the watch manufacturers do not make their own movement (aka in house movement) because it requires a lot of work, time and money, so they just buy it from companies like ETA and insert it into their watches. Here's what it is that is shocking, even well known brands like Tag Heuer, Longines, Tudor, Ball, Panerai etc uses ETA movements!! (Panerai buys ETA movement to modify it). The most common movement used by most watch manufacturers will be ETA and Miyota. However, there are a lot of watches manufacturer that makes their own movement, and they will be the most luxury, prestige watches like Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet etc. These watches will cost you a bomb!!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/3gsAAOxy79VRcBJZ/$T2eC16NHJGIFFoTmFfWzBRcBJZEZNg~~60_35.JPG)
This is a Miyota 2025 quartz
(http://www.chronometrie.com/eta2824/images/eta2824c.jpg)
and this is a automatic movement by ETA.
(http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jackforster/files/2012/09/1135_CHR_29_535_PS_Q_img3_21.jpg)
and this is a complicated movement by Patek.
You can just see how much more complicated an automatic watch is compared to quartz.
Not to mention, the pink and purple stones on the movements are rubies...
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Some quartz movements also have sweeping rather than jumping hands. At least my wall clock does.
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Some quartz movements also have sweeping rather than jumping hands. At least my wall clock does.
Spring drive is also a "quartz"!!
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wow...the automatic watch looks so complicated.. :o Is automatic watch is the one that if you put it on your wrist, it will work but if you not wear it, it will stop? ??? it's so..wow!! I don't know it's ruby if you not mention it..wowww. :o
and what is it mean...jumping & sweeping hand? ???
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Some quartz movements also have sweeping rather than jumping hands. At least my wall clock does.
Spring drive is also a "quartz"!!
I will said spring drive is not a quartz , is a hybrid mechanical movement.
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wow...the automatic watch looks so complicated.. :o Is automatic watch is the one that if you put it on your wrist, it will work but if you not wear it, it will stop? ??? it's so..wow!! I don't know it's ruby if you not mention it..wowww. :o
and what is it mean...jumping & sweeping hand? ???
Yes, it is indeed for the self winding automatic watches, but you can also mechanical wind it. Every watch have a power reserve, meaning when it is winded to the maximum, it will work for a certain time.
Jumping hand means the second hand will go tak tak tak but sweep hand means the second hand will sweep through the dial.
Some quartz movements also have sweeping rather than jumping hands. At least my wall clock does.
Spring drive is also a "quartz"!!
I will said spring drive is not a quartz , is a hybrid mechanical movement.
That's why I added the "" !
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Interesting pics
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Some quartz movements also have sweeping rather than jumping hands. At least my wall clock does.
Spring drive is also a "quartz"!!
I will said spring drive is not a quartz , is a hybrid mechanical movement.
still controlled by a quartz no?
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thank you mikster. :D
I think there's more about watches that I did not know.. Anyway, if I've any other question, I'll post the questions in this thread later. :D Anyone can post question too in this thread, we can learn more about watches together~ :Cheers:
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One more, automatic watch are all hand made, hand assembled. Imagine putting together all the small pieces, imagine how professional and precise the horologist must be. But, if I'm not mistaken there is an automatic watch that is full factory made that has just been announced not long ago, the Swatch Sistem51.
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One more, automatic watch are all hand made, hand assembled. Imagine putting together all the small pieces, imagine how professional and precise the horologist must be. But, if I'm not mistaken there is an automatic watch that is full factory made that has just been announced not long ago, the Swatch Sistem51.
wow. I wonder how they can make thousands of watches.. :o
but I think, if you have real passion towards watches, it's not a big deal. ^^ Even though there's a lot of effort to finish one watch, once you've done, all the tiredness will disappear immediately. ^^ (just my opinion)
I watch this video for the first time. Inside the Patek Philippe factory.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ52jEMv9qw
Very very interesting..it makes me want to be a watch maker (a watch maker idcalled as horologist, right?). :)
The Swatch Sistem51 looks nice..ehehe~
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Take a look at this for some basic facts about watches:
http://www.timezone.com/2003/10/04/mechanical-watch-faq/ (http://www.timezone.com/2003/10/04/mechanical-watch-faq/)
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(Jz for sharing) In case anyone is still not familiar with the mechanics of how a mechanical watch works, this is a very excellent video by Hamilton Watch Company (1949). It's ancient but explains clearly the principles behind a mechanical watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWh3rksXJyQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWh3rksXJyQ)
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(Jz for sharing) In case anyone is still not familiar with the mechanics of how a mechanical watch works, this is a very excellent video by Hamilton Watch Company (1949). It's ancient but explains clearly the principles behind a mechanical watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWh3rksXJyQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWh3rksXJyQ)
I love the 50s style narration and sound-track and video quality.
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Some quartz movements also have sweeping rather than jumping hands. At least my wall clock does.
The Junghans 1972 collection with a Solar Quartz movement has a sweeping hand as well..
http://youtu.be/Vw00ndFdKNY
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Sorry have another question..
For automatic watch, what's the price range? I found many automatic watch below Rm200 online but don't know whether it's ori or not.
And what is the use of rotating bezel? ???
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Sorry have another question..
For automatic watch, what's the price range? I found many automatic watch below Rm200 online but don't know whether it's ori or not.
And what is the use of rotating bezel? ???
Automatic range price ranges from RM200 - RM10000000, no joke.
For a Seiko 5, it ranges from RM200 - RM1000.
For a entry swiss automatic like Tissot, price starts from RM1500.
If you see a prestige brand with a price tag of RM200, it is very suspicious.
A rotating bezel rotates to wind the watch! It's like a wind up toy, you have to wind it so the toy can move. And the rotating bezel acts as the winding mechanism
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Automatic range price ranges from RM200 - RM10000000, no joke.
For a Seiko 5, it ranges from RM200 - RM1000.
For a entry swiss automatic like Tissot, price starts from RM1500.
If you see a prestige brand with a price tag of RM200, it is very suspicious.
A rotating bezel rotates to wind the watch! It's like a wind up toy, you have to wind it so the toy can move. And the rotating bezel acts as the winding mechanism
wow... xD I just read some articles that there are watches sold for $1.2 - $2.9 million :HammerHead:
wind is for automatic watch right? for normal watch, the rotating bezel is use for wind also?
and do you know Winner brand? Is it a good quality automatic watch or just another 'tiruan' brand?
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Sorry have another question..
For automatic watch, what's the price range? I found many automatic watch below Rm200 online but don't know whether it's ori or not.
And what is the use of rotating bezel? ???
Automatic range price ranges from RM200 - RM10000000, no joke.
For a Seiko 5, it ranges from RM200 - RM1000.
For a entry swiss automatic like Tissot, price starts from RM1500.
If you see a prestige brand with a price tag of RM200, it is very suspicious.
A rotating bezel rotates to wind the watch! It's like a wind up toy, you have to wind it so the toy can move. And the rotating bezel acts as the winding mechanism
sorry, newb here... not very sure on the vocabs... ain't rotating bezels used for dive watches or as tacyhmeters? :Confused:
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Sorry have another question..
For automatic watch, what's the price range? I found many automatic watch below Rm200 online but don't know whether it's ori or not.
And what is the use of rotating bezel? ???
Automatic range price ranges from RM200 - RM10000000, no joke.
For a Seiko 5, it ranges from RM200 - RM1000.
For a entry swiss automatic like Tissot, price starts from RM1500.
If you see a prestige brand with a price tag of RM200, it is very suspicious.
A rotating bezel rotates to wind the watch! It's like a wind up toy, you have to wind it so the toy can move. And the rotating bezel acts as the winding mechanism
sorry, newb here... not very sure on the vocabs... ain't rotating bezels used for dive watches or as tacyhmeters? :Confused:
Oh my god I misread it. Yes I'm sorry. Rotating bezel is used for dive watches for timing.
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What actually is 'Tourbillion'? ??? Tourbillion watch looks cool~~ :D
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To make it short n simple ,when you put your mechanical watch in 5 different positions it performs differently. So the tourbillion is a gravity defying mechanism that make the watch work very accurately even in any positions. For more info pls google.
What actually is 'Tourbillion'? ??? Tourbillion watch looks cool~~ :D
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What actually is 'Tourbillion'? ??? Tourbillion watch looks cool~~ :D
It is device used to counter the effects of gravity on a timepiece when the time piece is stuck in a particular position for a long time. This is 'true' for pocket watches, but a novelty for modern wrist watches. Some people consider a tourbillon a complication, but it is a form of regulator at best.
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It is device used to counter the effects of gravity on a timepiece when the time piece is stuck in a particular position for a long time. This is 'true' for pocket watches, but a novelty for modern wrist watches. Some people consider a tourbillon a complication, but it is a form of regulator at best.
Effects of the gravity? What gravity will do to watches? :O
Anyway thanks for the explanation...
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Anyone know what university or course that teaches how to make watches?
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locally, Swatch group.
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WOSTEP - watchmakers of switzerland training and education program
teaching at bukit jalil
u may contact them for more info
http://www.wostep.ch/index.php (http://www.wostep.ch/index.php)
for self training, you may try timezone watch school
http://www.timezonewatchschool.com/WatchSchool/ (http://www.timezonewatchschool.com/WatchSchool/)
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Gravity usually affect the accuracy of a mechanical watch. Normally of the delicate parts of a timepiece. Often is on the hairspring. There are also many parameters that will affect watch accuracy namely shock, magnet etc. Each have its own method to solve. Sometimes u will see on a watch stated anti-magnetism, anti-shock (G-Shock is famous for that) and tourbillion is a mechanical method to ease gravitational affect to a timepiece ;D
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The Nicholas G Hayek School of Watchmaking at malaysia. They teach the WOSTEP syllabus. You have to send an application and they will veto it. If you pass the process, you will be called up for an interview. After that, if they think you meet their standards, then they will intake you. Its a fully sponsored programme by Swatch Malaysia. There will be a bond period after you graduate.
I applied once, and passed the interview, but in the end, parents intervention meant that i had to give up this chance and dream. :'(