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Title: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: shwn31 on June 13, 2014, 03:05:40 PM
I am still new in the swiss made watches. This will be at my first swiss made. I still cant decide which one to choose. I have three option the Tag Heuer monaco chrono (CW2111), carrera calibre 16 (CV2A10), oris aquis date or the omega speedy pro. I also have interest with few Ball watches. Pheww, hard to make the decision. I want a stylish watch but not to forget the quality, background history of the watch, durable so that i can use with outdoors activities and most important is i can show off to friends in college. Haha
 
Most of my friends suggest me to go for oris because of the reasonable price. Not like the overpriced tag. I still don't know wether i really need the chrono function or not bcus i used to have a chrono watch before this and i never use it even once. I just bought because of the look. If you guy have any suggestion on other watch so that i can have a look? New or pre-owned is okay as long as it it below 10k. Cheaper is better as long as it is my first swiss made watch, no need to be more expensive . Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: ck77 on June 13, 2014, 03:09:42 PM
I am still new in the swiss made watches. This will be at my first swiss made. I still cant decide which one to choose. I have three option the Tag Heuer monaco chrono (CW2111), carrera calibre 16 (CV2A10), oris aquis date or the omega speedy pro. I also have interest with few Ball watches. Pheww, hard to make the decision. I want a stylish watch but not to forget the quality, background history of the watch, durable so that i can use with outdoors activities and most important is i can show off to friends in college. Haha
 
Most of my friends suggest me to go for oris because of the reasonable price. Not like the overpriced tag. I still don't know wether i really need the chrono function or not bcus i used to have a chrono watch before this and i never use it even once. I just bought because of the look. If you guy have any suggestion on other watch so that i can have a look? New or pre-owned is okay as long as it it below 10k. Cheaper is better as long as it is my first swiss made watch, no need to be more expensive . Thanks in advance
Your only contenders are:-
Monaco - sapphire, automatic, movement is not as per the vintage one (if you care)
Speedy Pro - Hesalite (plexi), manual, no date, basically unchanged (or minimal) since 1957
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: Calibre1887 on June 13, 2014, 03:35:46 PM
How about a Tudor Black Bay? Or maybe something from the IWC Pilot collection?
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: shwn31 on June 13, 2014, 04:04:29 PM
I dont think i can get iwc with that price range
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: Calibre1887 on June 13, 2014, 04:30:42 PM
You'll be surprised. A non chrono pilot pre owned is well within that price range.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: swleong on June 13, 2014, 04:49:05 PM
You'll be surprised. A non chrono pilot pre owned is well within that price range.

Agreed, a pre-owned IWC Pilot is the way to go.

It fulfilled all of your requirements, except maybe outdoor activities.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: rainbowfix on June 13, 2014, 05:03:32 PM
I will not buy that if I were you. that's a old pocket watch movement in new case... pre owned IWC is more like this : http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,13067.0.html (http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,13067.0.html) Good luck.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: shwn31 on June 13, 2014, 05:49:02 PM
how about tag carrera calibre 16? i heard lots of negative comments bout the movement
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: mike on June 13, 2014, 06:59:56 PM
how about tag carrera calibre 16? i heard lots of negative comments bout the movement
calibre 16 is an eta. one of the most reliable mechanism, very close to cosc standard. no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: ViiiLaix on June 13, 2014, 10:08:56 PM
If i were you, i'll consider :

1. Preowned Omega Speedmaster 35th Anniversary ( white dial )
it's hard to find one in the market, consider as collector item, and should not be more than 10k

2. Preowned Rolex Submariner 14060 no date
It's just so simply and stylish, with the clean and masculine black dial, around 12K ( over budget for 2K )

3. New Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Last time when i ask in KLCC it's RM9500

it really depends on you, but for me i definetely won't go for tag  ;D
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: sinbad2k on June 13, 2014, 10:57:56 PM
is it just me or that the suggestions given so far doesn't seemed so entry level to me  :-\
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: shwn31 on June 14, 2014, 12:55:14 PM
Thanks for your suggestion but for me rolex and omega only for old people. Haha. I'm just 20yo. With steel bracelet i dont think it will suits me. I want more stylish and suitable for young people. Thanks for your suggestion anyway.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: Timeless on June 14, 2014, 01:26:10 PM
How about Zenith Pilot or IWC Aquatimer? Preowned prices are pretty affordable.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: budakkacamata on June 14, 2014, 01:54:51 PM
i would think a rolex explorer II 40mm is a nice thing to have at about 10k price. Or else if u wanna go all pilot action, pre owned IWC is my pick.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: shwn31 on June 14, 2014, 02:30:16 PM
You guys have experience buying a pre-owned watch before? I'm afraid that there's a problem with the watch especially the movement.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: shwn31 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:53 PM
Longines master collection looks good too. Got moon phase.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: shwn31 on June 15, 2014, 01:50:40 PM
Between tag monaco and longines master collection moon phase, i think i should go for longines
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: hidden830726 on June 15, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
But buying a first Swiss watch as pre-own is mehhhhhh... :Blue: Buy NEw!
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: G.MAC on June 15, 2014, 03:47:32 PM
Rolex and omega for old people? Bro, you can't be more wrong. In my honest and brutal opinion, we will all grow old one day. Won't it be great if you already own a rolex then as opposed to buying one when you are at that age? Factor in the annual price increase and it won't seem like a really bad idea to own one now. Don't forget you are owning one of the most recognizable watches at a young age too. Buying pre-owned just means someone took the hit when they sold their watch off. It is the savviest way to own an expensive watch early as opposed to paying full retail new.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: mike on June 15, 2014, 04:54:58 PM
But buying a first Swiss watch as pre-own is mehhhhhh... :Blue: Buy NEw!
Why do you say so?
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: ssss on June 15, 2014, 05:39:20 PM
If you prefer strap, perhaps you could consider Oris Chronoris or Longines Legend Diver. Both are simple and well built watch with touch of historical background.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: D'Andy on June 15, 2014, 10:52:28 PM
From your listed timepieces, I have the Calibre 16 Chrono and Aquis Date. I can safely vouch that both are good choices, although the value for money piece is the Aquis Date. Built like a tank, heavy on the wrist and goes for tuppence compared to more luxurious divers. However, the Calibre 16 Chrono looks better as a dress watch and has better wrist presence.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: Ian Fleming on June 16, 2014, 11:30:05 AM

I'm with you.
My wife's 24 this year. She got her 1st Rolex last year. It's a pre-owned as well.
Because of her professional work field line, instead of making her old, the watch puts her to the next level of professionalism status.


Rolex and omega for old people? Bro, you can't be more wrong. In my honest and brutal opinion, we will all grow old one day. Won't it be great if you already own a rolex then as opposed to buying one when you are at that age? Factor in the annual price increase and it won't seem like a really bad idea to own one now. Don't forget you are owning one of the most recognizable watches at a young age too. Buying pre-owned just means someone took the hit when they sold their watch off. It is the savviest way to own an expensive watch early as opposed to paying full retail new.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: contender on June 16, 2014, 03:06:28 PM
But buying a first Swiss watch as pre-own is mehhhhhh... :Blue: Buy NEw!

Agreed to a certain extent, buying first Rolex must be brand new ..... after that if you want more pieces that you want to trade up buy your 2nd or 3rd maybe you could look at pre-owned  :Cheers:

Nothing beats new .... more so for a Rolex :Dancing_banana:
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: hidden830726 on June 16, 2014, 07:52:44 PM
But buying a first Swiss watch as pre-own is mehhhhhh... :Blue: Buy NEw!
Why do you say so?

Buy watch is to self shock, so for 1st watch, better buy new, 1) to ensure shock and 2) newbie (like me) dont know how to differentiate the fake, hence buying new eliminate all risk. (Off course buying from reputable shop may help)
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: dpkong on June 16, 2014, 09:47:15 PM
Nothing wrong with buying new. If no one does it, where do we get the pre-owned??

 :Laughing_on_floor:


And nothing wrong with buying pre-owned if you've done your homework or have good friends to give advice.

Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: el118 on June 17, 2014, 09:24:19 AM
For me entry level swiss watch would be Tissot!
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: hidden830726 on June 17, 2014, 07:38:32 PM
Not against Tissot in particular,

But Tissot imo is too "generic", brand wise
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: tagger on June 17, 2014, 08:27:33 PM
owned a tag carrera calibre 16..so far no problem
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: ivanpei on June 18, 2014, 11:46:43 AM
Thanks for your suggestion but for me rolex and omega only for old people. Haha. I'm just 20yo. With steel bracelet i dont think it will suits me. I want more stylish and suitable for young people. Thanks for your suggestion anyway.

Omega and Rolex are the safest bets for resale and brand prestige. For a 10k budget it's hard to find a good rolex, even preowned. The most you can get is probably an Explorer One or a really old Datejust. I wouldn't recommend it lar, not syiok.

For 10k, preowned Omegas are a steal. You can get a preowned Bond Seamaster for 7-8k and a Planet Ocean for about 9-12k (Depending 2500 or 8500, bracelet or rubber).

Why would you say Rolex/Omega is uncle? It's more like for people who understand the history of watches and appreciates in-house movement/COSC watches. Compared to paying alot of $$$ for an ETA Tag, it's a total shame IMO.
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: Enkidu on June 20, 2014, 07:41:02 AM
If you guy have any suggestion on other watch so that i can have a look? New or pre-owned is okay as long as it it below 10k. Cheaper is better as long as it is my first swiss made watch, no need to be more expensive . Thanks in advance

You may wish to consider the Terrascope. I heard there was a price increase since I bought mine but it should still be well within your (not small) budget..... :thumbsup:

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/terrascope2_zpsd2854d32.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/terrascope2_zpsd2854d32.jpg.html)

Please post some pics after your purchase.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

HAGWE!!!!!

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/terrascope1_zpsc6893de3.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/terrascope1_zpsc6893de3.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: TJWN on June 22, 2014, 10:59:48 AM
Why limited to "swiss made" watches? :Startled:

Please look at German, Japanese as well...
For  your information, what does a "Swiss Made" means....
   
A watch is considered to be Swiss if:

its movement is Swiss;
its movement is cased up in Switzerland;
and the manufacturer carries out the final inspection in Switzerland.

A movement is considered to be Swiss if

it has been assembled in Switzerland;
it has been inspected by the manufacturer in Switzerland; and
the components of Swiss manufacture account for at least 60 percent of the total value, without taking into account the cost of assembly. (previously was 51%)

(source of the above info is from The Federation of the Swiss Watch Industry FH)

Read more from Ariel Adams...a long article not for those TLDR
http://www.ablogtowatch.com/swiss-made-2/
Title: Re: Best watch to choose for entry-level swiss made watch.
Post by: sinbad2k on June 22, 2014, 09:22:24 PM
Thanks for your suggestion but for me rolex and omega only for old people. Haha. I'm just 20yo. With steel bracelet i dont think it will suits me. I want more stylish and suitable for young people. Thanks for your suggestion anyway.

ok...if you think that way then Swatch is the one for you and you get to save a lot $$ and could buy dozen different more if you're tired of ur current one.