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Title: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: contender on May 16, 2014, 10:58:20 PM
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Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: Calibr on May 16, 2014, 11:32:51 PM
Cartier. Your better half won't understand why you paid so much for a Seiko.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: Yikkie on May 17, 2014, 12:02:41 AM
Definitely the Gand Seiko. It is not even a contest.  ;D
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: chenht on May 17, 2014, 05:15:14 AM
Movement wise Seiko could be a better watch but appearance wise it is a very ugly watch IMHO.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: TJWN on May 17, 2014, 07:17:44 AM
a very rare case that the buyer is undecided between cartier and gs. normally a collector who like gs wont have a love for a santos....
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: watzisname on May 17, 2014, 07:20:32 AM
a very rare case that the buyer is undecided between cartier and gs. normally a collector who like gs wont have a love for a santos....

I agree
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: mike on May 17, 2014, 11:03:30 AM
Cartier. Your better half won't understand why you paid so much for a Seiko.
I totally disagree with your comment. GS is a watch with understated status but it is something premium, most people would think that it is just a normal RM500 Seiko, but the real connoisseurs and horological enthusiasts would admire to your exquisite taste. Needless to say, the spring drive mechanism fitted in the GS is definitely a beater. There are hundreds of GS owners in this forum, I believe most of them are big horological enthusiasts, and they never doubt every penny they paid for the GS.

GS and the Santos, I'd go for the GS anytime.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: Calibr on May 17, 2014, 11:22:04 AM
Cartier. Your better half won't understand why you paid so much for a Seiko.
I totally disagree with your comment. GS is a watch with understated status but it is something premium, most people would think that it is just a normal RM500 Seiko, but the real connoisseurs and horological enthusiasts would admire to your exquisite taste.
GS and the Santos, I'd go for the GS anytime.

Is the OP buying the watch to impress the REAL connoisseurs? Or buying to wear a premium watch for his own satisfaction, and to impress those around him, who are not REAL connoisseurs? Different watches for different market segments.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: mike on May 17, 2014, 01:02:50 PM
Cartier. Your better half won't understand why you paid so much for a Seiko.
I totally disagree with your comment. GS is a watch with understated status but it is something premium, most people would think that it is just a normal RM500 Seiko, but the real connoisseurs and horological enthusiasts would admire to your exquisite taste.
GS and the Santos, I'd go for the GS anytime.

Is the OP buying the watch to impress the REAL connoisseurs? Or buying to wear a premium watch for his own satisfaction, and to impress those around him, who are not REAL connoisseurs? Different watches for different market segments.
Don't get me wrong, I did not mention anything about whom he is impressing, but was to explain the worth of a Grand Seiko. No offence intended.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: Xianjeff on May 17, 2014, 01:12:03 PM
both are beautiful watches with both brands that go way back in the watch making history. rule of thumb is choose the one u like. the plastic wrapped gs or cartier santos...
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: sidestreaker on May 17, 2014, 01:24:49 PM
Though I enjoy the technical aspect of a watch, and Seiko has my vote as the more competent and reliable watch maker, the Santos gets my vote as the better looking one. Like or or not, there's a part in all of us who wants to show off our watches at some point, and the Santos carries a more recognizable fashion statement, both casual and formal.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: CKL1213 on May 17, 2014, 05:10:57 PM
Neither Seiko nor Cartier

Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: jacky8888 on May 17, 2014, 06:33:49 PM
Cartier Santos
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: skccks on May 17, 2014, 06:51:24 PM
i choose cartier..
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: jason_recliner on May 18, 2014, 08:31:37 AM
Grand Seiko, but auto instead of Spring Drive.  Get the Santos next time.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: sshark on May 18, 2014, 07:59:31 PM
Buy the watch you like to put on ur wrist. GS SD represents an advancement in horology in the calibre section while Cartier Santos has the aesthetics. I am not saying GS looks ugly, just Cartier looked better in this round.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: meoramri on May 19, 2014, 10:16:52 AM
Santos. Because design is different :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: Spider boy on May 19, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
Cartier for now and Seiko for later. However , in my experience the cartier will not wear as comfortable and as feasible as the Seiko. Therefore you might want to consider that if you want to have an everyday watch, then again cartier design is pretty slick and sui la aesthetically
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: swleong on May 19, 2014, 04:14:05 PM
The GS is more advanced and refine in technical and finishing.

On the other hand, the Cartier is iconic and rich in history.

Not apple to apple comparison, bit like comparing Lexus with Maserati......

And my personal pick is Cartier.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: Enkidu on May 19, 2014, 04:40:34 PM
Not apple to apple comparison, bit like comparing Lexus with Maserati......

And my personal pick is Cartier.

Yes, I think swleong is right. It's not really an apple-to-apple comparison because the GS Spring Drive is after all "electronically / quartz regulated". I know a few people who will strongly disagree with me on this point. My personal pick is also the Cartier even assuming I do not already have the GS SD.   
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: euclidorus on May 19, 2014, 09:11:31 PM
Both examples cannot me more different. Round or square. Baton or roman.  Bracelet or leather.  Brown or white dial. Date or no date. Spring drive or eta. Conservative or fashion. Japanese or French. Plastic wrapped or unwrapped.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: contender on May 19, 2014, 09:55:35 PM
Not apple to apple comparison, bit like comparing Lexus with Maserati......

And my personal pick is Cartier.

Yes, I think swleong is right. It's not really an apple-to-apple comparison because the GS Spring Drive is after all "electronically / quartz regulated". I know a few people who will strongly disagree with me on this point. My personal pick is also the Cartier even assuming I do not already have the GS SD.

Well I would have to agree on your point on spring drive .... "Enhanced/Hybrid Quartz" , maybe the automatic hi beat would be a better comparison.

Anyway they are both different category to be compared, was thinking of a dress watch choice .... :HammerHead:
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: jason_recliner on May 20, 2014, 05:26:05 AM
Both examples cannot me more different. Round or square. Baton or roman.  Bracelet or leather.  Brown or white dial. Date or no date. Spring drive or eta. Conservative or fashion. Japanese or French. Plastic wrapped or unwrapped.

Yeah, that.  It's a very weird comparison.

The GS is a dressy sports watch, along the same lines as an Overseas or Royal Oak, rather than a dress watch.  If you're after a dress watch get the Cartier.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: chrisyen on May 20, 2014, 07:58:40 AM
comparing one with condom, another without condom gonna be hard to tell... which one is more beautiful ! despite the condom is see through type !  :Laughing_on_floor:

if u choose a daily beater, then thats depend on your lifestyle

GS SD VS Cartier Santos

movement - accuracy SD won hands down (its quartz mah)
power reserve - SD 72 hrs will power you over a weekend without wearing, while Eta 2892 surely stop if you do not wear for a day with 8 hrs on ur wrist with some movement

bracelet - steel bracelet vs leather strap. i will choose the GS bcoz i sweat alot, not sitting in office everyday, leather strap watch cant be with me everyday

for a dress watch, GS never a design to be a dress watch... u may change it with GS leather strap and their folding buckle
its easier to wear than the cartier butterfly buckle

cartier design is one of the best no doubt... i will want to wear it at dinner for sure !
 
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: graffika on May 20, 2014, 08:55:55 AM
get both if you can...otherwise if you have to choose.....cartier .

i have both GS and Cartier :)
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: cscdt on May 20, 2014, 02:56:49 PM
GS I pick :Confused:
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: spryken on May 24, 2014, 10:09:29 PM
I love to see the seconds hand, and GS dial is simply making me smile every time i look at it.
No doubt Santos is the ever green model.

My vote still for GS. hehe
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: sidestreaker on May 25, 2014, 12:01:41 AM
Your post inspired me to step into a Cartier boutique just the other day and tried out the new Santos myself...

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I found the bracelet version of it and I must say the construction is pretty solid and tight. You can expect some of the best case making quality from a marque like Cartier.

I'd vote for the Cartier...
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: Zen8 on May 27, 2014, 02:08:21 PM
This one for the classic design :Cheers:

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Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: David_cheong on May 28, 2014, 11:54:35 AM
Between the two, I would choose Cartier any time. But thats just me.

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Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: Cocas on July 08, 2016, 04:02:19 PM
Brand glamorous: Cartier better than GS
Hour&minutes hand finishing : GS better than Cartier
Automatic movement : GS better than Cartier
Wife happy index: Cartier better than GS

 ;)
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: asimo on July 08, 2016, 05:21:04 PM
Both guys and ladies in general will like Cartier, I like both Santos and tank


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Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: WHEELQ on July 08, 2016, 06:54:23 PM
Unwrap the GS and the u'll hav a winner in every other horological aspects; case, movement/accuracy, bracelets confort, crown details and of course polish/shine. Cartier will only wins on the public/brand recognition part. But its juz my opinion...

Btw, i own a GS snowflake and coincidentally looking for a Cartier Santos. Hmmmm, maybe its a sign i should pull the trigger..  :Dancing_banana:
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: saprozeldo on July 08, 2016, 08:03:29 PM
a very rare case that the buyer is undecided between cartier and gs. normally a collector who like gs wont have a love for a santos....
Thought santos is the most collectible watch in the cartier collection.. & even with all its history, it's not at least at par with GS?

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Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: asimo on July 08, 2016, 09:45:50 PM

i think the TANK and SANTOS both looks great ... a gentleman watch... classy...
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: wildaxlrose on July 08, 2016, 09:55:47 PM
Buy what you like , you won't go wrong


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Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: kukujiao on July 09, 2016, 06:28:48 AM
Santos

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Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: Umeshmalani on July 09, 2016, 08:47:16 PM
Santos anytime buddy


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Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: Sterimar on July 10, 2016, 09:28:54 AM
I prefer a GS with white or beige dial +- a blue GMT hand. SBGJ001, SBGJ011, SBGH001, SBGM007 or SBGM021 are all very nice.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: chenht on July 10, 2016, 10:12:14 AM
I heard so much about GS but when I took a close look at it, it just didn't sing to me at all. To me GS simply looks ugly (just me ok) though the movement and finishes might be excellent.

CARTIER to me any time.
Title: Re: Grand Seiko or Cartier
Post by: Caseywai on July 10, 2016, 03:05:11 PM
I have much love for the Cartier but don't really like the santos. At this moment prefer the GS. However if it's your first dress watch, and if it's to impress then Cartier for sure.


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