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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: john8899 on April 04, 2014, 01:44:02 PM
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Guys, thinking of trade my Montblanc Nicolas Rieussec Open Home time for the GMT Master II(Batman) or GMT 116710LN?
Trade this ..
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to this ..
(http://www.watchtime.com/cms/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Rolex_GMT-Master_II_front_560.jpg)
Or this...
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??? ???
An additional info, currently I do own RO15400st (silver/white) and SubC date. My Montblanc just bought in 4 Months ago..
Should I do it or not. As if, which shall be my better choice?
Thanks in advance.
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I'd say keep the Montblanc
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your montblanc looks nicer :)
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Since you are bound to take a massive hit for the montblanc, i suggest you keep the montblanc. After a while you will realise that the GMT and the Submariner is very similiar. If you love the GMT a lot, i suggest you trade in the Sub for the GMT. That way you have a particular theme going for i.e: GMT complication.
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I agree with G.MAC. The GMT II and the Sub C really looks similar. Unless I take an extra look at the dial to see the 24hour markers, it will be difficult to tell the Sub and GMT apart. Your Mont Blanc is really nice looking. Why not keep it for a little while longer to see if you like it?
DC
Since you are bound to take a massive hit for the montblanc, i suggest you keep the montblanc. After a while you will realise that the GMT and the Submariner is very similiar. If you love the GMT a lot, i suggest you trade in the Sub for the GMT. That way you have a particular theme going for i.e: GMT complication.
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Thanks guys for the feedback.
Basically I like this montblanc also, as well as this is also my first time bought the watch on the spot from the first sigh...unlike the Sub c and RO which I took weeks or months of thinking before pulling the trigger.
The reason why the flipping thinking came across may be mainly due to the 'low ball' trade in value offered which immediately caused me a 'regret' feeling of buying it and feel to flip it for other more valuable in every angles watch.
Just to share abit the reason why I bought this watch in the first place, it not only looks nice from the appearance, also I like the multi features of the watch which I hardly able see with that kind of value of watch you able get the watch with chrono (disc type), GMT, day/night and date indicator, this admired me lots that time.
I'm new to the watch world, am apology in advance if I'd made any statement incorrectly first. The engineered of the watch which able build up mechanically the multi features in such a limitation space yet able accurately functioning well and to me it is already a 'complication'. I really respect of it.
So, may be now the sifu sifus outthere able share me more on their opinion on this watch or I shall trade it for other watch not limited only for the choices I'd put up.
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Yes you should
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I am not a sifu and just a watch enthusiast. I buy a watch because I like it. I have also flipped watches because I no longer wear them as much and they don't get enough wrist time for me to justify keeping them. With that in mind...If you bought the watch on sight because it sang to you right there and then...that already speaks volumes. You buy a watch to make yourself happy. That is all, not because of it's resale value and what the market hype is...
DC
Thanks guys for the feedback.
Basically I like this montblanc also, as well as this is also my first time bought the watch on the spot from the first sigh...unlike the Sub c and RO which I took weeks or months of thinking before pulling the trigger.
The reason why the flipping thinking came across may be mainly due to the 'low ball' trade in value offered which immediately caused me a 'regret' feeling of buying it and feel to flip it for other more valuable in every angles watch.
Just to share abit the reason why I bought this watch in the first place, it not only looks nice from the appearance, also I like the multi features of the watch which I hardly able see with that kind of value of watch you able get the watch with chrono (disc type), GMT, day/night and date indicator, this admired me lots that time.
I'm new to the watch world, am apology in advance if I'd made any statement incorrectly first. The engineered of the watch which able build up mechanically the multi features in such a limitation space yet able accurately functioning well and to me it is already a 'complication'. I really respect of it.
So, may be now the sifu sifus outthere able share me more on their opinion on this watch or I shall trade it for other watch not limited only for the choices I'd put up.
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I don't quite like the dial it looks busy to me and it's just my opinion, no hard feelings. The others GMT watches have much cleaner and simple dial.
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another vote from me to keep the montblanc...
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I doubt u can trade with Batman without any top up.
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I would do the trade. But like el said doubt u can get to trade without top up.
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I doubt u can trade with Batman without any top up.
Sadly, I been offered only 50% of my purchased price....that is why I called it 'low ball'.. :'( :'(
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The MB is a visually interesting piece. Not really my cup of tea but surely you bought it because you liked it enough to have bought it on first sight. RV is never going to be the same as a Rolex but then Rolexes are too commonplace.. I think you should keep it if you still like it.
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keep the Montblanc....
like bro G.Mac said your Sub C is similar to GMT2..
plus you will lose a lot of money if you trade or sell now....
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Keep the montblanc !!! ;D
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Welcome to the watch collection journey .... it's all part and parcel of buying watches. Like investments, "keep" it so that your so called loss is just on "paper" .... and go buy your Batman GMT unless you really need the money why take 50% hit ..... let me see I'll offer you 55% of your purchase price ..... :Laughing_on_floor:
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keep the Montblanc....
like bro G.Mac said your Sub C is similar to GMT2..
plus you will lose a lot of money if you trade or sell now....
Hi Jacky,
Ya, really in struggling now. Last said, trade it, will lose a lot money. However, keep it, will lose further.
Question now, is this watch a good choice as the permanent collection since I would prefer to have kind of permanent collection. This is what I'm thinking now of cos my mind may change from time to time ;D
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Welcome to the watch collection journey .... it's all part and parcel of buying watches. Like investments, "keep" it so that your so called loss is just on "paper" .... and go buy your Batman GMT unless you really need the money why take 50% hit ..... let me see I'll offer you 55% of your purchase price ..... :Laughing_on_floor:
::) Why not 75% ? :Laughing_on_floor:
J/k :Cheers:
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The Montblanc Nicholas Rieussec is the type of watch that not many people are bold enough to acquire and yet always gets the envious attention in gatherings from all watch enthusiast alike. That mono-pusher will continue to get more attention and compliments for years to come. Though the Rolex GMT is a fantastic watch, I do not believe wearing it will give you the same effect or reaction.
While others have played safe, you have decided to be different and follow your gut instinct. Kudos! For the amount of complication and craftsmanship put into it, not many realise that it is still a very good deal even at RRP. The intrinsic value is there, just a matter of time when the market will realise it. Montblanc is doing a lot of good works lately and if they keep this up, they might just managed to shed of the 'fashion-watch' impression and become a serious player in the watch segments. Needless to say, the value of their timepiece will also increase.
Keep it.
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The Montblanc Nicholas Rieussec is the type of watch that not many people are bold enough to acquire and yet always gets the envious attention in gatherings from all watch enthusiast alike. That mono-pusher will continue to get more attention and compliments for years to come. Though the Rolex GMT is a fantastic watch, I do not believe wearing it will give you the same effect or reaction.
While others have played safe, you have decided to be different and follow your gut instinct. Kudos! For the amount of complication and craftsmanship put into it, not many realise that it is still a very good deal even at RRP. The intrinsic value is there, just a matter of time when the market will realise it. Montblanc is doing a lot of good works lately and if they keep this up, they might just managed to shed of the 'fashion-watch' impression and become a serious player in the watch segments. Needless to say, the value of their timepiece will also increase.
Keep it.
:Cheers: What you said is what I thought especially on this part 'that not many people are bold enough to acquire ' ..cos many ppl not willing to spend that kind of amount for Montblanc watch.
But you able describe and explain much much better than me!
Thanks.
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It is a price to pay for most of the new collectors. Try to refrain from impulse purchase again in the future. ;)
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It is a price to pay for most of the new collectors. Try to refrain from impulse purchase again in the future. ;)
Hi el, understood that ;D
Am forget to mention also, another factor which caused my immediate purchased that time is also due to I got a very very good discount, I dont think I able get that kind of offer from any other AD and not to say from the boutique.
I think this is the watch that I purchased with the biggest 'gain' and satisfying on the price offered which not many ppl able get it.
The subc and RO , I think I got only a reasonable discount in the market which many also able get it same as what I obtained.
Just my personnel opinion. ;)
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I'd keep the MB. It has so much more character compared to the Rolexes. Not to mention that you'll stand out from the sea of sameness that every Rolex owner has to deal with.
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Keep the MB n save up for your next watch. It is a unique watch n don't deserve to lose 50% value in 4 months. Hang in there buddy
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It is a price to pay for most of the new collectors. Try to refrain from impulse purchase again in the future. ;)
Hi el, understood that ;D
Am forget to mention also, another factor which caused my immediate purchased that time is also due to I got a very very good discount, I dont think I able get that kind of offer from any other AD and not to say from the boutique.
I think this is the watch that I purchased with the biggest 'gain' and satisfying on the price offered which not many ppl able get it.
The subc and RO , I think I got only a reasonable discount in the market which many also able get it same as what I obtained.
Just my personnel opinion. ;)
Montblanc is famous for its writing instruments not watches. For me it is quite disappointing that Montblanc now is using "its name" to manufacture leather goods, eyewear, jewelries and watches which I believe is not their specialty. That is why it is fair to receive a huge retail discount for one. But since you mentioned that not many ppl will be able to get the price you had I suggest that you sell for the price you had or close to the price you had it for. That what I would do. Then I'd use the money to go buy another Rolex or AP. :thumbsup:
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It is a price to pay for imho.ost of the new collectors. Try to refrain from impulse purchase again in the future. ;)
this is good advice but sometimes hard to follow. Everyone has some impulse purchase story to tell IMHO. :angel:
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Keep the Montblanc. With Jerome Lambert (ex CEO of JLC) at the helm and the ownership of Minerva, MB is getting the right kind of attention and a brand on the up. 50% is too much to lose for a great looking watch like the NR you have. Ironically, you might lose less by keeping and enjoying the watch for a longer period of time.
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Moreover, like a few members already mentioned, the GMT looks very similar to your Sub-C. I see no point in that unless you are an avid Rolex collector. Why not consider other brands like Zenith, GO, JLC or even IWC if you do decide to trade in the MB?
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Trade in for the Batman, it's a beautiful watch, and it's a Rolex! :Cheers:
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With so many voices and opinion, I wonder what is the decision from the OP?
So John8899, to keep or not to keep? More importantly why? We'd like to hear how we have swayed your decision? ;D
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With so many voices and opinion, I wonder what is the decision from the OP?
So John8899, to keep or not to keep? More importantly why? We'd like to hear how we have swayed your decision? ;D
Thanks guys for the opinion.
Sidestreaker, am still thinking...during I put up this topic for opinion..my mind was thinking about 40/60 (keep/trade), now is about 70/30...especially after read about your opinion, it boosts up my mind more to keep it.
the reason why it still not 100% for keeping it now, mainly just am concerning I may later still trade it and then will get even lower trade value, am now just want to confirm whether I will treat this watch as one of my permanent collection or not if decided to keep it.
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Montblanc is famous for its writing instruments not watches. For me it is quite disappointing that Montblanc now is using "its name" to manufacture leather goods, eyewear, jewelries and watches which I believe is not their specialty. That is why it is fair to receive a huge retail discount for one. But since you mentioned that not many ppl will be able to get the price you had I suggest that you sell for the price you had or close to the price you had it for. That what I would do. Then I'd use the money to go buy another Rolex or AP. :thumbsup:
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Agreed 100%
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Keep the Montblanc. With Jerome Lambert (ex CEO of JLC) at the helm and the ownership of Minerva, MB is getting the right kind of attention and a brand on the up. 50% is too much to lose for a great looking watch like the NR you have. Ironically, you might lose less by keeping and enjoying the watch for a longer period of time.
this is correct. Montblanc is a up and coming brand with potential. Hold on to it!!!! :Cheers:
God bless....
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You bought it because it appealed to you and the nice discount closed the deal.
Now you want to sell it because you think it's not worth what you paid for it or it's value will drop in future?
From your current collection, money is obviously not a major concern but you want to maintain your "investment" in them. That's a mistake.
Keep the MB. Ignore comments about them only being good at making pens. This watch is interesting visually and mechanically and I've always stopped to look at it. Just couldn't afford to fork out the money for it. The Batman or GMT will be a common watch and being a normal Rolex model, you can just add it anytime in future.
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You bought it because it appealed to you and the nice discount closed the deal.
Now you want to sell it because you think it's not worth what you paid for it or it's value will drop in future?
From your current collection, money is obviously not a major concern but you want to maintain your "investment" in them. That's a mistake.
Keep the MB. Ignore comments about them only being good at making pens. This watch is interesting visually and mechanically and I've always stopped to look at it. Just couldn't afford to fork out the money for it. The Batman or GMT will be a common watch and being a normal Rolex model, you can just add it anytime in future.
+1 keep the MB. Great looking watch.
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It's normal to fall in and out of love with watches - as for the Mont Blanc, you probably bought it after reading some marketing-driven reviews. These brands are good at this game. Of the 3 watches you have, MB is likely to have the least wrist time, the AP and Sub C overshadowing it.
Life is short, you want the Batman now, go for it. You can always buy back the Mont Blanc NR if it appeals to you again. The MB NR is not going to go up in value the longer you keep it.
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People , this mb model has one of the best chronograph movement created with vertical clutch and column wheel with a pr of 70hrs and single pusher that can be compared with the best like the daytona, JLC chrono, PP chrono and of course the Ap RO chronograph that uses Fedderic Piquet"s movement. Although i do not own any MB watch , i have ample materials for knowledge on chronograph .Confined them to just a pen maker would not be fair to them until you start operation on the chrono of the Nicolas Rieussec. regards tony
Montblanc is famous for its writing instruments not watches. For me it is quite disappointing that Montblanc now is using "its name" to manufacture leather goods, eyewear, jewelries and watches which I believe is not their specialty. That is why it is fair to receive a huge retail discount for one. But since you mentioned that not many ppl will be able to get the price you had I suggest that you sell for the price you had or close to the price you had it for. That what I would do. Then I'd use the money to go buy another Rolex or AP. :thumbsup:
Agreed 100%
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Thank you Tony for the information. I've tried a couple and I can confirm that the chrono operation and it is very very smooth...
(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv272/sidestreaker/Timepiece/IMAG5732_zps4ee4af1b.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/sidestreaker/media/Timepiece/IMAG5732_zps4ee4af1b.jpg.html)
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It is a bit oversimplifying to just dismiss Montblanc only because of their pen-manufacturing background. They have been coming with some really good stuff lately and as mentioned by Yikkie, Jerome Lambert coming on board is promising.
Granted that most of their entry level watches are sellita/eta based and can easily be dismissed as fashion watches (then again nothing wrong with that, just may not be appealing enough for some of us watch enthusiast, they are still some good watches nonetheless).
However, just look at some of the MB Minerva Villeret's pieces, they'll put most of the current line production watches to shame! I believe they are few manufacturing house left that actually produce their own balance spring for some of the pieces.
Don't just look at the label, look what's behind it.
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Agreed with sidestreaker and tony, if you think MB is another fashion house who just want to diversify their business means they are not serious in Horology thn how abt Cartier? Their santos is iconic even Cartier start up as jewelry maker. How abt watches from bvlgari (GG and DR) ? Hermes? Not worth to mention?
Cheers
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An interesting article from the watch snob:
Hi,
Now that Montblanc is making watches in addition to its fine pens, and also just developed its own movement, would you buy its watches? I really like its Star Chronograph Automatic, but is this just a designer watch or the real deal?
Thanks
Instead of answering your question, I will tell you an anecdote of my most recent visit to a Montblanc boutique and let you decide if they are worth buying. I walk in and am greeted by a lovely woman. I ask to speak with someone who knows about its watch line. She brings me over to their “timepieces expert.” They show me Montblanc’s new “in-house” watch, and I begin to wind the watch via the crown when the “timepieces expert” screams at me! He says: “No! You can’t wind it that way!” I inquired why; he proceeds to tell me that “some watches need to be wound by the crown, and some, called “automatic wristwatches,” can only be wound by shaking the watch,” and that if I were to wind it via the crown it would damage the movement, which couldn’t be less true. I launched into the necessary diatribe on how so very, very wrong he is and then walked out.
This is Montblanc’s timepiece expertise at its best? If you want a pen, go to Montblanc; if you want a watch, buy it from a watch company.
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An interesting article from the watch snob:
Hi,
Now that Montblanc is making watches in addition to its fine pens, and also just developed its own movement, would you buy its watches? I really like its Star Chronograph Automatic, but is this just a designer watch or the real deal?
Thanks
Instead of answering your question, I will tell you an anecdote of my most recent visit to a Montblanc boutique and let you decide if they are worth buying. I walk in and am greeted by a lovely woman. I ask to speak with someone who knows about its watch line. She brings me over to their “timepieces expert.” They show me Montblanc’s new “in-house” watch, and I begin to wind the watch via the crown when the “timepieces expert” screams at me! He says: “No! You can’t wind it that way!” I inquired why; he proceeds to tell me that “some watches need to be wound by the crown, and some, called “automatic wristwatches,” can only be wound by shaking the watch,” and that if I were to wind it via the crown it would damage the movement, which couldn’t be less true. I launched into the necessary diatribe on how so very, very wrong he is and then walked out.
This is Montblanc’s timepiece expertise at its best? If you want a pen, go to Montblanc; if you want a watch, buy it from a watch company.
hi theseira,
I'd read on this article as well from askme.com, in fact, it used to be one of my reason made me felt of trading my MB.
However, when I think further, its that fair enuf to put the remark that MB watch is not worth to buy just due to incompetency of 1 or 2 personnel who are those just work at the boutique?
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Not only you feel the smoothness when you engage to start or stop the chrono, you will also feel that other hands doesnt jump when you do that on all vertical coupling movements. You can try an AP ROOC against the AP Roc ( uses a Fredderic Piquet VC movement), than you will know what i"m trying to say. regards tony
Thank you Tony for the information. I've tried a couple and I can confirm that the chrono operation and it is very very smooth...
(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv272/sidestreaker/Timepiece/IMAG5732_zps4ee4af1b.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/sidestreaker/media/Timepiece/IMAG5732_zps4ee4af1b.jpg.html)
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An interesting article from the watch snob:
Hi,
Now that Montblanc is making watches in addition to its fine pens, and also just developed its own movement, would you buy its watches? I really like its Star Chronograph Automatic, but is this just a designer watch or the real deal?
Thanks
Instead of answering your question, I will tell you an anecdote of my most recent visit to a Montblanc boutique and let you decide if they are worth buying. I walk in and am greeted by a lovely woman. I ask to speak with someone who knows about its watch line. She brings me over to their “timepieces expert.” They show me Montblanc’s new “in-house” watch, and I begin to wind the watch via the crown when the “timepieces expert” screams at me! He says: “No! You can’t wind it that way!” I inquired why; he proceeds to tell me that “some watches need to be wound by the crown, and some, called “automatic wristwatches,” can only be wound by shaking the watch,” and that if I were to wind it via the crown it would damage the movement, which couldn’t be less true. I launched into the necessary diatribe on how so very, very wrong he is and then walked out.
This is Montblanc’s timepiece expertise at its best? If you want a pen, go to Montblanc; if you want a watch, buy it from a watch company.
hi theseira,
I'd read on this article as well from askme.com, in fact, it used to be one of my reason made me felt of trading my MB.
However, when I think further, its that fair enuf to put the remark that MB watch is not worth to buy just due to incompetency of 1 or 2 personnel who are those just work at the boutique?
I'm afraid Watch Snob's opinions and sense of judgement is best served in a fashion police magazine (oh wait, he already is). He's interesting, provocative and entertaining (not in a good way) but unfortunately can't be taken seriously enough.
The world of horology publication and review would be boring without him, I'd admit that. I suppose someone has to be a clown, eh?
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Hi Tony
Not an expert here, however would like to share on my feeling on when press either start/stop/reset, its gave me a smooth feel but also a feeling of 'loose' , not the solid feel.
Is that normal or it just my watch do has problem?
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Sidetracker your a cool person and you take really nice pics with your mobile phone but I am afraid I have to agree with the watch snob on this one.
The thing with MB for me is that it is not a watch company and if you look at the secondary market you will find that the value of MB pieces are heavily discounted and I mean seriously heavy.
Why do you think that the person only offering John 50% of the price he paid for the MB piece.
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Sidetracker your a cool person and you take really nice pics with your mobile phone but I am afraid I have to agree with the watch snob on this one.
The thing with MB for me is that it is not a watch company and if you look at the secondary market you will find that the value of MB pieces are heavily discounted and I mean seriously heavy.
Why do you think that the person only offering John 50% of the price he paid for the MB piece.
It is just based on one simple reason: To remove or minimize the the market value factor for the consideration for John, and hope that he will gain more in terms of pure emotional satisfaction and not just only gain in monetary terms .
Whoever did a low-ball offer of that watch for John is either too ignorant to value the fact and the business behind it, or just trying to take advantage of the Montblanc stigma as non-watch manufacturer. This certainly is not enough to be an indicator. In any case, making decision on market value alone is a bit too one dimensional, don't you think?
Though there's not enough facts now for me to elaborate on the depreciating rate of this watch, but it does not rule out the fact that it is a very well assembled watch, and worthy of some love and attention. Just because (if) there is a lack of demand out there doesn't mean that Le Locle did not do a good job with this particular piece. Some of us here have handled and tried it on personally and found it to be convincing enough.
My justification on Montblanc stand is that Richemont has decided that they (MB) have the capability in bringing up these manufacturer to the next level of exposure with their marketing expertise, and by carrying their label. They (MB) did not just jump into the bandwagon for the sake of diversifying their product. MB gets to ride on some of the reputation of Villaret and Le Loche as a serious watch brand in the market and in return, these manufacturers gets the benefit of marketing and financial sustainability. It is a known risk that the stigma of being a fashion watch would surface (and it did, and most likely will take sometime to shake off) but that does not mean that they are selling bad watches, or they are not trying hard. The exceptional quality of their watches is a testament to this.
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Hi Tony
Not an expert here, however would like to share on my feeling on when press either start/stop/reset, its gave me a smooth feel but also a feeling of 'loose' , not the solid feel.
Is that normal or it just my watch do has problem?
I too am interested in what Tony's opinion on this. I too feel a bit of looseness in the button, but I find it rather pleasant, compared to say a Valjoux that has a harder 'snap' to it. Perhaps it is the smoothness of the vertical clutch+column wheel?
Also, I like how the minute counter moves smoothly instead of snapping to the next minute.
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my 2 cents may not be worth much...
just keep the MB (since John mentioned that the resale value is bad currently) and believe you me, John will still find ways to get the Rollie of his choice... however, it all boils down to John's will... if he already has that perceived flaw, it will only be forgotten today but be reminded tomorrow...
am personally not a big fan of a diversified brand heading into the watch biz but believe that this particular watch has a lot of firsts... keep it as a novelty and as a reminder never to be impulsive on purchases...
if in doubt, always stick to the watchmakers... has been my mantra in choosing other high-involvement items such as cameras, shoes, etc. unless emotional appeal really runs high...
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hi everyone , I think you mean using less pressure to press the on, off , reset. Dont worry , the one that they offered me to try at the launching in Suffolk House Penang many years ago was quite similar like not to much pressure to activate the pusher. Unlike the eta 7750 , you need to press very much harder. in the Jlc , daytona chrono you need slightly a little more effort to press compare to your MB, and when you reset the daytona n JLC chrono you will also feel the softness of the pusher. According to an expert from a book , he mentioned that we need less effort to activate the pusher on the vertical coupling movement than non because of its system . cheer up n enjoy your watch ,its real value for money for something like that n both your watches design are flawless.regards tony
Hi Tony
Not an expert here, however would like to share on my feeling on when press either start/stop/reset, its gave me a smooth feel but also a feeling of 'loose' , not the solid feel.
Is that normal or it just my watch do has problem?
Hi Tony
Not an expert here, however would like to share on my feeling on when press either start/stop/reset, its gave me a smooth feel but also a feeling of 'loose' , not the solid feel.
Is that normal or it just my watch do has problem?
I too am interested in what Tony's opinion on this. I too feel a bit of looseness in the button, but I find it rather pleasant, compared to say a Valjoux that has a harder 'snap' to it. Perhaps it is the smoothness of the vertical clutch+column wheel?
Also, I like how the minute counter moves smoothly instead of snapping to the next minute.
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sorry the above should read Start\Stop\ Reset.
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Looks like a hot topic here .....
At the end of the day, it is all about supply and demand. Purely economics, just like investments, that is why there is mark to market valuation of your portfolio. You may have a AAA rated "investments" when you want to sell and there is no willing buyer for your AAA pricing then you will have to force sell at prices people are willing to pay hence your 50% offer of your purchase price. Unless you plan to hold till maturity .... of keep it as heirloom. :Cheers:
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I think, at the end of the day, it's what the OP wants. He bought a good bargain, not necessary a watch that sings to him. It's a great watch, no doubt, as many posts have indicated. But it's here and now, what he wants on the wrist that matters, good and constructive comments aside. Since he bought at a good price, he won't lose much trading in or selling it off for the watch he now fancies, which is the Batman or the GMT II c LN.
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The MB looks SEXY, ELEGANT and TIMELESS CLASSIC like Nicole Kidman!
keep it unless you super desperate needed the money.
The GMT Batman looks like a toy (probably due to the ceramic-blue) and a watch only teen pop stars will wear :Laughing_on_floor:.
Still can't get over how Rolex have made their ceramic bezel, glossy yet dull like old-school mosaic kitchen tiles.
But that just me.
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I'm afraid Watch Snob's opinions and sense of judgement is best served in a fashion police magazine (oh wait, he already is).
Oh dear. Thseira, you actually tried to use a Watch Snob diatribe as justification for your argument?
Sidestreaker is 100% correct (except, perhaps, the bit about Watch Snob being entertaining - that is debatable!).
OP, if anything, the fact that Watch Snob doesn't like ML should be all the more reason to keep yours. And perhaps buy another!
Personally, I don't have a lot of interest in ML, but yours is a bit special. Rolexes, on the other hand, are everwhere - you can pick one up any time in the future. That ML would be much more difficult to reacquire.
So the resale isn't great? Then don't sell it - problem solved! Anyway, watches are about looking at what's on your wrist and smiling, not money or investment. That's what work and banks are for.
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We'll said Jason... :Cheers:
I'm afraid Watch Snob's opinions and sense of judgement is best served in a fashion police magazine (oh wait, he already is).
Oh dear. Thseira, you actually tried to use a Watch Snob diatribe as justification for your argument?
Sidestreaker is 100% correct (except, perhaps, the bit about Watch Snob being entertaining - that is debatable!).
OP, if anything, the fact that Watch Snob doesn't like ML should be all the more reason to keep yours. And perhaps buy another!
Personally, I don't have a lot of interest in ML, but yours is a bit special. Rolexes, on the other hand, are everwhere - you can pick one up any time in the future. That ML would be much more difficult to reacquire.
So the resale isn't great? Then don't sell it - problem solved! Anyway, watches are about looking at what's on your wrist and smiling, not money or investment. That's what work and banks are for.
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My vote: keep the Mont Blanc. It is a very unique piece :Dancing_banana:
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I'm afraid Watch Snob's opinions and sense of judgement is best served in a fashion police magazine (oh wait, he already is).
Oh dear. Thseira, you actually tried to use a Watch Snob diatribe as justification for your argument?
Sidestreaker is 100% correct (except, perhaps, the bit about Watch Snob being entertaining - that is debatable!).
OP, if anything, the fact that Watch Snob doesn't like ML should be all the more reason to keep yours. And perhaps buy another!
Personally, I don't have a lot of interest in ML, but yours is a bit special. Rolexes, on the other hand, are everwhere - you can pick one up any time in the future. That ML would be much more difficult to reacquire.
So the resale isn't great? Then don't sell it - problem solved! Anyway, watches are about looking at what's on your wrist and smiling, not money or investment. That's what work and banks are for.
Yeah I was bored at work and just scoping the net to find something good about MB watches yesterday, was hoping I can find something convincing about MB watches, did not find anything interesting and came across that article. Good read though.
Watch snob aside. I won't suggest the OP to buy another MB watch though. Unless of course if $$$ value is not important to the OP by all means go for another MB.
As for me, my watch selecting criteria is different: The pieces I buy must not only make me happy, it must also be able to perform well in the secondary market and be reasonably desired by majority.
Desired by majority = if someone offer the mass market the Rolex BLNR vs the MB - the mass market would pick the BLNR.
Besides that I suspect that Rolex is due for price increase soon. 1st May I believe. I would get a Rolex instead.
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The pieces I buy must not only make me happy, it must also be able to perform well in the secondary market and be reasonably desired by majority.
Fair enough Theseira, we all have different priorities. For me, that would limit the available options too greatly (basically to Rolex and PAM)!
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The pieces I buy must not only make me happy, it must also be able to perform well in the secondary market and be reasonably desired by majority.
Fair enough Theseira, we all have different priorities. For me, that would limit the available options too greatly (basically to Rolex and PAM)!
well... thanks for the info! i didn't know that PAM are able to hold their value...
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Thanks all for the comment/feedback. Since most of the comment asked to keep it, honestly I'm now still consider and try to find the 'good' side of the watch itself to convince myself for keeping it.
some photo sharing of this MB...
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab81/syjong/DSC01619_zps54cf9686.jpg)
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab81/syjong/DSC01627_zpscef82250.jpg)
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab81/syjong/DSC01628_zps6381fe4f.jpg)
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab81/syjong/DSC01630_zpsc4081ce4.jpg)
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The pieces I buy must not only make me happy, it must also be able to perform well in the secondary market and be reasonably desired by majority.
Fair enough Theseira, we all have different priorities. For me, that would limit the available options too greatly (basically to Rolex and PAM)!
well... thanks for the info! i didn't know that PAM are able to hold their value...
:Laughing_on_floor:
Considering they're not much different from MB watches...
Safe watch investments? Rolex sport models but don't buy at RRP. Maybe some Pateks.
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Compared to any standard Rolex, this watch sure looks a lot better!
Seriously want to get rid of it? PM me!
Thanks all for the comment/feedback. Since most of the comment asked to keep it, honestly I'm now still consider and try to find the 'good' side of the watch itself to convince myself for keeping it.
some photo sharing of this MB...
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab81/syjong/DSC01619_zps54cf9686.jpg)
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab81/syjong/DSC01627_zpscef82250.jpg)
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab81/syjong/DSC01628_zps6381fe4f.jpg)
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab81/syjong/DSC01630_zpsc4081ce4.jpg)
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The pieces I buy must not only make me happy, it must also be able to perform well in the secondary market and be reasonably desired by majority.
Fair enough Theseira, we all have different priorities. For me, that would limit the available options too greatly (basically to Rolex and PAM)!
well... thanks for the info! i didn't know that PAM are able to hold their value...
:Laughing_on_floor:
Considering they're not much different from MB watches...
Safe watch investments? Rolex sport models but don't buy at RRP. Maybe some Pateks.
frankly... i've never given a thought on how to relate investment with a luxury accessory ;D
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Buy or keep the watch you desire not others desired, then one would have rid themselves of the herd mentality complex.regards tony
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Buy or keep the watch you desire not others desired, then one would have rid themselves of the herd mentality complex.regards tony
+1 :thumbsup:
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It's a beautiful watch to enjoy. One buys watches not to think about disposing it later. One buys watches to enjoy its ownership experience. I don't see why you should sell this off for a simple Rolex without any features!
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Keep the MB for another 6 months, wait for the GMT Blue/Black price gets stable. Not wise to buy something selling at the premium now. Explorer II 42mm is a good example.
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your mont blanc looks much tastier and kinda rare with others brooo
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your mont blanc looks much tastier and kinda rare with others brooo
Thanks bro!
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beautiful MB... better keep it!
if u dont want to keep it, i can keep it for u! :Laughing_on_floor:
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montblanc looks more unique than batman.
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116710LN is the one to go for
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New Batman now asking 28k. It's falling faster than the Yachtmaster...
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New Batman now asking 28k. It's falling faster than the Yachtmaster...
AD in Lot 10 selling at retail price ....