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Title: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: Laktos Kid on January 21, 2014, 04:01:09 PM
The movement was introduced last year by Swatch but it is not sold here yet in bolehland. The name itself is based on the 51 parts which made up the movement and will be priced around 100-200 USD and has a power reserve of 90 hours :Startled:. And form their official websites only few models come with this movement, hopefully in the future it will come with stainless steel case.

What do you guys, girls and sifus think of this new movement ? I myself do not own any mechanical watch, yet. But am interested to know what do you guys think of this compare to the affordable Seiko 5 movement. Would anyone buy just because it is manufactured in Swiss ? I am thinking of getting an affordable mechanical dress watch  :Cheers:
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: dennis.T on January 21, 2014, 04:31:11 PM
Would u dispose it or send for service If the service cost is 100-200usd when it due for service 5 years later?
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: TheWatchMan on January 21, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
I just happened to buy my son a Swatch watch last week and was told the earliest arrival could be in mid-Feb or Mar. Sistem 51 is an exciting watch and many will be curious to get themselves a very reasonable automatic watch. Will see how it performs soon.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: Everdying on January 21, 2014, 05:37:06 PM
i dont think sistem51 is serviceable.
plus from what swatch tells me, it wont be coming to malaysia anytime soon.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: jason_recliner on January 22, 2014, 04:52:02 AM
I'd rather have a Seiko, who have been doing this (basic auto watches for the everyman) for 50 years.  They know what they're doing, and they do it very well.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: meoramri on January 22, 2014, 03:02:37 PM
I believe sistem51 is a sealed unit - supposed to be service free - but can anything last forever?
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: JOS2012 on January 23, 2014, 10:58:15 AM
If I may jump in here, coming from someone who used to collect those limited Swatches >20 yrs ago.
The novelty wears off after a very short while and I ended up never wearing them and disposing all of them after a while.
Looking back I think its a stage we go through. I was attracted to them at a much younger age but getting older it just doesn't fit the age profile anymore and I wonder what it was that attracted me in the first place.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: Laktos Kid on January 23, 2014, 06:46:44 PM
found a topic almost the same as this in watchxseek and a lot of people seem to be fascinated by the introduction of swatch system 51 or aka the "affordable watch" from swiss. For me, maybe it caught my attention a little bit more since i first saw the news at ablog2watch is because i do not own any mechanical watches let alone swiss watches.

I was looking at the Tissot powermatic and suddenly i realize this has 10 hour more power reserve. It's really exciting even though the design of the watch is "a bit" childish and funky but that's swatch. For people who is fond of colourful g-shocks i guess that's ok... will wait for the watch to show up here in Malaysia to have a closer look at it  ;)
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: joharimuhidin on May 12, 2014, 01:19:02 PM
I bought a swatch watch as a birthday present to my daughter early jan this year but the machine was stop running. I lost the warranty card as I went back to the swatch shop in Melaka Malaysia and told me that there is a mechanical problem. You have to produce the warranty card in order to get the replacement. I told them that I am willing to pay for the repair cost as I have lost the card. Unfortunately, the said that the is no repair policy unless I could produce the warranty card to them. I promise to myself that I will never ever buy this type of watch in my life as this watch is totally a scrap for me now.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: pratz123 on May 13, 2014, 12:55:02 PM
Looks totally like how a Swatch would look like. And for that price point, it's quite fair. I think this is a very personal and objective buy. Personally, I'd just a get a regular Swatch for half the price.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: Calibr on May 13, 2014, 01:30:24 PM
I bought a swatch watch as a birthday present to my daughter early jan this year but the machine was stop running. I lost the warranty card as I went back to the swatch shop in Melaka Malaysia and told me that there is a mechanical problem. You have to produce the warranty card in order to get the replacement. I told them that I am willing to pay for the repair cost as I have lost the card. Unfortunately, the said that the is no repair policy unless I could produce the warranty card to them. I promise to myself that I will never ever buy this type of watch in my life as this watch is totally a scrap for me now.

A Seiko is better any time, anywhere, in terms of serviceability.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: Cocas on July 17, 2016, 12:46:17 PM
More Sistem 51 varieties now.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: meoramri on July 17, 2016, 01:44:17 PM
The designed is a permanent sealed movement. Once there is a problem it is just replaced. Swatch has marketed the Sistem51 as such.


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Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: kfkwan on August 14, 2016, 08:09:24 PM
I have one as a watch collection of mine. I hardly wear it. Only for a casual yamcha session with buddies.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: vinorus on August 15, 2016, 02:17:53 PM
I have owned an Irony Automatic Steel Case before, I love the design and I think it looks slightly better to me than 51 system series...
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: kfkwan on August 19, 2016, 09:27:56 PM
Looking forward for the New Sistem 51 in steel casing. :D
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: lee882888 on August 22, 2016, 08:10:46 AM
So this watch better or look else where for affordable automatics
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: JeepWH on August 22, 2016, 08:48:11 AM
IMHO, the construction and finishing on the movement is terrible.

A RM200+ seiko 5 movement looks way better than what the Sistem 51 looks like.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: Jedirat on August 22, 2016, 09:34:28 AM
Seiko 5 still won my vote, compared to the simple and maybe a "plastic" construction of System 51. Not at the same level, IMHO. Sorry to the System 51 lovers.. just my 2cent.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: D'Andy on August 22, 2016, 10:13:10 AM
Will cast my vote for Seiko 5 too. In terms of robustness, Seiko 5 will beat on and on. System 51 was IMHO more of a fad and fashion, and to show that Swiss autos could be produced at low production cost too (but then, it's a simple system with one-screw-holds-all ).
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: JeepWH on August 22, 2016, 11:08:32 AM
Will cast my vote for Seiko 5 too. In terms of robustness, Seiko 5 will beat on and on. System 51 was IMHO more of a fad and fashion, and to show that Swiss autos could be produced at low production cost too (but then, it's a simple system with one-screw-holds-all ).

Actually I did observe the movement, it is esentially not a one screw holds all.

Just in certain areas screws are replaced by rivets.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: Hafisjasni on August 24, 2016, 07:01:10 AM
I would buy if they built one with stainless steel bracelet..

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Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: Jedirat on August 24, 2016, 08:07:06 AM
I would buy if they built one with stainless steel bracelet..

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Swatch is expected to launch the new System51 Irony with stainless steel bracelet in September/October this year. The RRP should be in the range of USD195 to USD235.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: D'Andy on August 24, 2016, 08:09:14 AM
Seen the pictures and they looked like standard Irony pieces. But at those prices and in s/s now, it would make a better choice compared to the plasticky ones.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: adamjohari on August 24, 2016, 09:05:21 AM
Swatch is like Rolex. You have to experience it at least once in your watch life. I've already experienced Rolex and have it out of my system.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: D'Andy on August 24, 2016, 09:19:41 AM
During my younger days, I had quite a few Swatch pieces. Back in the 80s and 90s, it was the "in" thing to "I  Swatch very much". Remember those days? Swatch would release collectible Swatches and fans would literally clamour for 'em pieces. They were cheap and cheerful, and you could have a different Swatch on your wrist daily. Those were the days... Now, for me at least, Swatch has revolved into Flik Flak for my kids.

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Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: Cocas on August 24, 2016, 09:40:42 AM
Swatch got into my life when I was studying abroad. My Petaling Street watch died off during winter cold days, I went and got a simple Swatch.

The Swatch went so well (oh yes together with my Cyma) through out my uni life. But too bad the I carelessly opened the battery cap too much and damaged the plastic case back. :Blue:
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: Hafisjasni on August 24, 2016, 02:27:05 PM
I would buy if they built one with stainless steel bracelet..

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Swatch is expected to launch the new System51 Irony with stainless steel bracelet in September/October this year. The RRP should be in the range of USD195 to USD235.
Really??  Nicee... Looking forward to add those in my line up

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Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: phat7 on August 24, 2016, 10:38:45 PM
Anybody remember Diaphane 1 from 2001. The frenzy swatch caused when people were storming the shops ????
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: jeffco on August 25, 2016, 10:27:38 AM
Looks Decent and nice
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: asimo on September 25, 2016, 10:10:59 AM
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New swatch irony sistem 51 automatic priced from RM740 to rm900 (steel)


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Flieger type B design

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Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: mwfchai on September 28, 2016, 03:11:56 PM
Price range to compete with seiko??

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Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: meoramri on September 29, 2016, 04:04:00 AM
An alternative. About time too. The Swiss have neglected this section of market till now 


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Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: Jedirat on September 29, 2016, 07:39:27 AM
Btw, there is still a big gap between the Swiss players and Seiko as the later has offered various variety of products in this segment with value for money for their products. It will take times and commitment for the Swiss players to successfully enter into this segment, IMHO.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: meoramri on September 29, 2016, 08:12:41 AM
Btw, there is still a big gap between the Swiss players and Seiko as the later has offered various variety of products in this segment with value for money for their products. It will take times and commitment for the Swiss players to successfully enter into this segment, IMHO.

Very true. If the Swiss players start to seriously look into this segment, good times ahead for watch lovers as this can also prompt Seiko to innovate further.

For the mechanical section, only the Seiko group (including Orient) have a wide presence.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: asimo on September 29, 2016, 08:14:03 AM
Hope this 2nd gen swatch sistem 51 can be service


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Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: meoramri on September 29, 2016, 11:44:46 AM
Hope this 2nd gen swatch sistem 51 can be service


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Unfortunately it can't - the whole sistem51 is a sealed system
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: vinorus on November 02, 2016, 09:40:15 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160925/773e0bb635fdd1692b73b0e9a2642cdb.jpg)


New swatch irony sistem 51 automatic priced from RM740 to rm900 (steel)


(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160925/dea89505d2bc2621fbbf2f4758b46261.jpg)

Flieger type B design



I have just bought the blue one with steel bracelet, will post in gallery by this week :)

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Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: vinorus on November 02, 2016, 09:47:29 AM
I would buy if they built one with stainless steel bracelet..

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I can say the steel bracelet in Irony System 51s are not solid. Quite typical Swatch Irony quality, design also the same with all other Swatch. About the same with all sub RM1,000 watches including Seiko.
Good thing is I could easily swap with all other Swatch Rubber Straps which I think it is quote fun to do it.
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: vinorus on November 02, 2016, 09:56:00 AM
Would u dispose it or send for service If the service cost is 100-200usd when it due for service 5 years later?

I would neither service nor dispose it if the watch still running +-1min per day  ::)
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: John0202 on November 02, 2016, 09:14:53 PM
i brought system51 before, but then sold off. the glass is not really made from glass, its plastic. its very easy u get scratches. and large ticking sound. but overall still fine.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New affordable automatic watch from Swatch
Post by: shzrn on October 07, 2020, 09:16:26 AM
Any thoughts on the new System 51 made out of Eco friendly material?