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Title: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on January 02, 2014, 05:37:41 AM
Just to share some of my modified open face/dial pocket watch....enjoy :Cheers:
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20131207_125815_zps66ed5c3b.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20131207_125815_zps66ed5c3b.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20131207_125915_zps9a39566f.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20131207_125915_zps9a39566f.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20131207_125853_zps94693a9c.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20131207_125853_zps94693a9c.jpg.html)
 
 
 
This is Helbros from Germany....enjoy :Cheers:
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140102_082612_zpsea57f6da.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140102_082612_zpsea57f6da.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140102_082648_zps949bc6db.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140102_082648_zps949bc6db.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140102_082629_zpsc9f55a0a.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140102_082629_zpsc9f55a0a.jpg.html)
 
 
 
more to come :Dancing_banana: 
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: Jules Vega on January 02, 2014, 07:22:52 AM
Very nice and creative....many thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: rainbowfix on January 02, 2014, 11:51:03 AM
Yes... another beauty...
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: superken182 on January 03, 2014, 01:09:38 PM
What a nice beauty! The Bucherer size as a old 50cents coin? That's a small size? i thought pocket watch is all in big case...   
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on January 04, 2014, 06:23:34 AM
Gd morning....Thanks for the compliments Jules Vega and Rainbowfix. :Cheers: 
 
Superken182....the Bucherer is size 41mm and Helbros is size 43mm. :Cheers:
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140104_090659_zps07448361.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140104_090659_zps07448361.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140104_090744_zps20d544ba.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140104_090744_zps20d544ba.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140104_090714_zps63aee95d.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140104_090714_zps63aee95d.jpg.html)                 
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on January 04, 2014, 06:37:58 AM
Few more pics....enjoy :Cheers:
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140104_093214_zpsd5578268.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140104_093214_zpsd5578268.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140104_093242_zps7f5414f7.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140104_093242_zps7f5414f7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: Jules Vega on January 05, 2014, 03:35:22 PM
Are these for sale or is it just for personal enjoyment?
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on January 06, 2014, 06:13:28 AM
Gd Morning Jules Vega....thanks for your interest but temporary on hold first cause few more arriving this week.  Will be getting Benurs (two tone), Omega (two tone), Waltham, Bulova, Oris and Tissot.  Hopefully all will arrive safely :Dancing_banana:
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: Jules Vega on January 06, 2014, 06:42:56 AM
Quote from: TET@WATCH on January 06, 2014, 06:13:28 AM
Gd Morning Jules Vega....thanks for your interest but temporary on hold first cause few more arriving this week.  Will be getting Benurs (two tone), Omega (two tone), Waltham, Bulova, Oris and Tissot.  Hopefully all will arrive safely :Dancing_banana:

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on January 07, 2014, 05:02:52 PM
Just got my Benrus.  Below are some pics before modification.  Once complete, can no longer open to show movement cause it needs to compress to seal. My sifu says, too many time open close will loosen the virginity :Laughing_on_floor: Enjoy.... :Cheers:
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140107_195019_zps18d7f00c.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140107_195019_zps18d7f00c.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140107_195028_zpsb241aad8.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140107_195028_zpsb241aad8.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140107_195124_zpseaa789e5.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140107_195124_zpseaa789e5.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140107_195153_zps6d96db33.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140107_195153_zps6d96db33.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140107_195230_zps01dab347.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140107_195230_zps01dab347.jpg.html)
 
 
 
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on January 09, 2014, 07:35:44 AM
More pocket watches from Big, Bigger and Biggest....enjoy :Cheers:
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140109_102219_zpsc48c1612.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140109_102219_zpsc48c1612.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140109_102328_zpsfb359b3c.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140109_102328_zpsfb359b3c.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140109_102032_zps2b5e81c2.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140109_102032_zps2b5e81c2.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140109_102023_zpsbd6fcbf5.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140109_102023_zpsbd6fcbf5.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140109_101955_zpsfb5c45e4.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140109_101955_zpsfb5c45e4.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140109_101933_zps730eb158.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140109_101933_zps730eb158.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140109_101704_zps4b8bdc02.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140109_101704_zps4b8bdc02.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140109_101837_zps31ce2095.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140109_101837_zps31ce2095.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140109_102120_zps821543af.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140109_102120_zps821543af.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140109_102147_zps67bcdf62.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140109_102147_zps67bcdf62.jpg.html)
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on January 17, 2014, 10:05:22 AM
Omega and Oris...Tissot got away...enjoy :Cheers:
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_124932_zpsc70ace3b.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_124932_zpsc70ace3b.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_125342_zps29b4c97f.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_125342_zps29b4c97f.jpg.html)
 
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_125359_zpsff051ac1.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_125359_zpsff051ac1.jpg.html)
 
 
 

(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_124923_zps83b0a5aa.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_124923_zps83b0a5aa.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_125327_zps6d3b99ea.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_125327_zps6d3b99ea.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_125540_zps296cd625.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_125540_zps296cd625.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_125647_zps31e7f08c.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_125647_zps31e7f08c.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_125611_zps168611a9.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_125611_zps168611a9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on January 17, 2014, 04:00:23 PM
Another project accomplished...JB bracelet....enjoy :Cheers:
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_185241_zpsd04ae311.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_185241_zpsd04ae311.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_185339_zps31688c2d.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_185339_zps31688c2d.jpg.html)
 
 
 
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: rainbowfix on January 17, 2014, 05:18:33 PM
Very nice collection.  Especially the bulova.
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: chrisyen on January 19, 2014, 07:51:39 AM
Any more info for the Kramer ?
It's beautiful
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on January 20, 2014, 10:32:51 AM
Gd Afternoon Rainbowfix....Thanks for the compliment !
 
Gd Afternoon Chrisyen....Its an alarm pocket watch n thanks for the compliment ! 
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on March 08, 2014, 11:18:35 AM
Another creation....ROSKOPF pocket watch....enjoy :Cheers:
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140308_141155_zps46cb5aa7.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140308_141155_zps46cb5aa7.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140308_141209_zps2373a0a1.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140308_141209_zps2373a0a1.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140308_141221_zpscf19fd7e.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140308_141221_zpscf19fd7e.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140308_141250_zpsfa5041db.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140308_141250_zpsfa5041db.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140308_141301_zpse612706d.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140308_141301_zpse612706d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: h.chang on March 09, 2014, 09:35:39 AM
You have a great collection of pocket watches , even one masonic watch belonging to Worshipful Master E. Less! Keep it up!
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: JeepWH on March 09, 2014, 11:18:43 AM
Impressive collection, keep it up.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: GTH on March 20, 2014, 01:36:13 PM
Very nice! does your sifu weld the lugs on for you?
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on May 23, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
Not satisfied, i modified the crown from 12 to 3 o'clock....only pocket watch without sub seconds can be adjusted...enjoy :Cheers:
 
BEFORE :-
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140104_093242_zps7f5414f7.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140104_093242_zps7f5414f7.jpg.html)
 
 
AFTER :-
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_115754_zpsbd5977b6.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_115754_zpsbd5977b6.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_115742_zpse68b12d0.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_115742_zpse68b12d0.jpg.html)
 
 
 
 
My bikers friend requested a "BAD BOY WATCH"  so i manage to modified this Omega,  hope he will likes it  :Laughing_on_floor:
 
 
 
BEFORE :-
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_124932_zpsc70ace3b.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_124932_zpsc70ace3b.jpg.html)
 
 
AFTER :-
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_120056_zpsd2df9a7e.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_120056_zpsd2df9a7e.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_120040_zpsa42d52e8.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_120040_zpsa42d52e8.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_115714_zpsf32a4e65.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_115714_zpsf32a4e65.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_115621_zpsbae20da7.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_115621_zpsbae20da7.jpg.html)
 
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: Chipi on May 29, 2014, 02:37:59 AM
Wow ... lovely watches there.... :thumbsup:
Thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on June 09, 2014, 05:42:38 PM
Another pocket watch requested by a boy lady to convert into watch...Helbros Skeleton....enjoy :Cheers:
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140609_193739_zpse4abebb3.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140609_193739_zpse4abebb3.jpg.html)
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140609_193746_zpsb1678e8e.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140609_193746_zpsb1678e8e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: chrisyen on June 10, 2014, 08:33:32 AM
Quote from: TET@WATCH on May 23, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
Not satisfied, i modified the crown from 12 to 3 o'clock....only pocket watch without sub seconds can be adjusted...enjoy :Cheers:
 
BEFORE :-
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140104_093242_zps7f5414f7.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140104_093242_zps7f5414f7.jpg.html)
 
 
AFTER :-
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_115754_zpsbd5977b6.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_115754_zpsbd5977b6.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_115742_zpse68b12d0.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_115742_zpse68b12d0.jpg.html)
 
 
 
 
My bikers friend requested a "BAD BOY WATCH"  so i manage to modified this Omega,  hope he will likes it  :Laughing_on_floor:
 
 
 
BEFORE :-
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140117_124932_zpsc70ace3b.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140117_124932_zpsc70ace3b.jpg.html)
 
 
AFTER :-
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_120056_zpsd2df9a7e.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_120056_zpsd2df9a7e.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_120040_zpsa42d52e8.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_120040_zpsa42d52e8.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_115714_zpsf32a4e65.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_115714_zpsf32a4e65.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140523_115621_zpsbae20da7.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140523_115621_zpsbae20da7.jpg.html)

the bund style is good way of turning the pocketwatch to wrist watch
anyway of using the hard leather to hold the watch rather than have a welding lugs will be even more great
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on June 10, 2014, 10:58:34 AM
Good afternoon Chrisyen....tried that, but the crown difficult to wind cause too close to strap :HammerHead:. unless the crown can be adjusted to 3'clock.  Luckily the owner loves it or else, i got to crack my head again.... :Laughing_on_floor:  Now, my next project is even harder, she wanted swing lugs :Confused:, hope my friend Mr Goldsmith can help.  Please, feed me with all ideas even some might sound weird but i am willing to listen.   :Cheers: 
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: chrisyen on June 12, 2014, 07:51:04 AM
Quote from: TET@WATCH on June 10, 2014, 10:58:34 AM
Good afternoon Chrisyen....tried that, but the crown difficult to wind cause too close to strap :HammerHead:. unless the crown can be adjusted to 3'clock.  Luckily the owner loves it or else, i got to crack my head again.... :Laughing_on_floor:  Now, my next project is even harder, she wanted swing lugs :Confused:, hope my friend Mr Goldsmith can help.  Please, feed me with all ideas even some might sound weird but i am willing to listen.   :Cheers:

let me find some example photo or mayb sketches, see whether doable or not
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on June 13, 2014, 06:37:46 AM
Good morning Chrisyen...appreciated :Dancing_banana:
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on June 19, 2014, 08:32:56 AM
Finally got my tissot 14k...pictures not that nice...enjoy :Cheers:
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140619_100245_zpsbc947e86.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140619_100245_zpsbc947e86.jpg.html)
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140619_100301_zpsf22bd24f.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140619_100301_zpsf22bd24f.jpg.html)
 
 
 
 
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b610/tet156799/20140619_100233_zpsdae61f76.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/tet156799/media/20140619_100233_zpsdae61f76.jpg.html)
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: chrisyen on June 19, 2014, 09:03:30 AM
Quote from: chrisyen on June 12, 2014, 07:51:04 AM
Quote from: TET@WATCH on June 10, 2014, 10:58:34 AM
Good afternoon Chrisyen....tried that, but the crown difficult to wind cause too close to strap :HammerHead:. unless the crown can be adjusted to 3'clock.  Luckily the owner loves it or else, i got to crack my head again.... :Laughing_on_floor:  Now, my next project is even harder, she wanted swing lugs :Confused:, hope my friend Mr Goldsmith can help.  Please, feed me with all ideas even some might sound weird but i am willing to listen.   :Cheers:

let me find some example photo or mayb sketches, see whether doable or not

ini macam

(http://www.vintagewatchstraps.com/photos2/pocketwatchwriststrap.jpg)
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: TET@WATCH on June 19, 2014, 10:34:29 AM
Haha Chrisyen...your " ini macam " also very complicated :Confused:....looks like there is another layer of plastic cover before covering it with leather....any chance of having more pictures ?
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: haaha on June 19, 2014, 05:54:52 PM
woah..nice collection.. :O
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: chrisyen on June 20, 2014, 12:20:03 PM
Quote from: TET@WATCH on June 19, 2014, 10:34:29 AM
Haha Chrisyen...your " ini macam " also very complicated :Confused:....looks like there is another layer of plastic cover before covering it with leather....any chance of having more pictures ?

i just googles... remember a pam with this leather bund style thing also
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: 9tailsfox on May 09, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
most of the time we called it trench watch
Title: Re: POCKET WATCHES (MODIFIED)
Post by: Bert Lee on May 14, 2015, 05:59:02 PM
Tet@watch, are you the one modifying the pocket watch? I'm waiting mine to arrive these few days. Was thinking to modify it into a watch. Anyway to use as a watch without touching the original casing?