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Title: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: squasub on December 30, 2013, 11:30:05 AM
Hello guys,

I'm eyeing to get one between these two..both are iconic brand, with automatic movement and price also quite similar. Any comments on the calibre P9000? Would like to hear opinions from you guys.

Btw i have small wrist..around 6.5 inches.

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: jason_recliner on December 30, 2013, 11:49:43 AM
Hello guys,

I'm eyeing to get one between these two..both are iconic brand, with automatic movement and price also quite similar. Any comments on the calibre P9000? Would like to hear opinions from you guys.

Btw i have small wrist..around 6.5 inches.

Thanks  :)

6.5 inches?  You just answered your own question, my friend.

Sub, Sub, and Sub.
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: Cwlwatch on December 30, 2013, 11:52:18 AM
See your word I think prefer the Pam.
My opinion for your small wrist take the sub.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: squasub on December 30, 2013, 12:10:15 PM
thanks for the reply guys. I know panerai is big but the 392 is 42mm which i think should be ok on my wrist.
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: RaymondT on December 30, 2013, 12:19:56 PM
for pam go for 44mm , my personal take is that it is easier to resell it later. Have  you consider PAM 104 or PAM 90 as well ?  44mm but the case wears better on small wrist. I was in the same dilemma previously between choosing a Sub or PAM , I went for the PAM. But I’ll love to own the Sub 1 day.
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: jason_recliner on December 30, 2013, 12:28:27 PM
thanks for the reply guys. I know panerai is big but the 392 is 42mm which i think should be ok on my wrist.

It sounds like your heart is leaning towards the PAM.  IMO 42 mm is big for 6.5 inch wrist, but possibly not too big.  Buy used so you can flip it easily if it's too big.
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: squasub on December 30, 2013, 12:45:19 PM
thanks for the reply guys. I know panerai is big but the 392 is 42mm which i think should be ok on my wrist.

It sounds like your heart is leaning towards the PAM.  IMO 42 mm is big for 6.5 inch wrist, but possibly not too big.  Buy used so you can flip it easily if it's too big.

i like the sandwich and matte dial of the 392 ;)
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: Jules Vega on December 30, 2013, 12:58:46 PM
I have a sub and can say 40mm sits well on a 6.5 as is my wrist. For purer DNA why not a no date? I have been known to beat myself up for not going that direction in the first sub purchased.
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: squasub on December 30, 2013, 01:02:55 PM
I have a sub and can say 40mm sits well on a 6.5 as is my wrist. For purer DNA why not a no date? I have been known to beat myself up for not going that direction in the first sub purchased.

hi bro..yes if subC i prefer the non date model..not a fan of the cyclop ;)
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: Calibr on December 30, 2013, 01:07:58 PM
Can't go wrong with either one, although I prefer a Sub. Since you are leaning towards PAM, go for it now! Eventually you would be getting the other as well.. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: hanz079 on December 30, 2013, 01:15:14 PM
I would go for Sub...
For PAM, I would go for simpler models like 000, 005, 111,112, 176 or maybe the latest 510.
Can handle bigger than 44mm can opt for 372 or 422.
42mm? Maybe 512, 337 or 338.

Small wrists or not, can adapt wan lah... wear awhile mah biasa loh... hehehe

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/Wristshots/DSC04392_zpse4339234.jpg) (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/hanz079/media/Wristshots/DSC04392_zpse4339234.jpg.html)

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/Wristshots/DSC03855_zps9812d706.jpg) (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/hanz079/media/Wristshots/DSC03855_zps9812d706.jpg.html)

On my slightly bigger than yours 6.75inch wrist.
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: squasub on December 30, 2013, 01:38:29 PM
bro hanz thanks for the pics..both look nice on your wrist :thumbsup:..the pam is 44mm?

btw what do you mean by simpler models? without second hands?
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: TheWatchMan on December 30, 2013, 06:42:32 PM
Pam is more macho. SubC is more sporty and classic. Btw the accuracy is awesome, not sure about Pam. Maybe other owners can comment.
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: G.MAC on December 30, 2013, 07:00:40 PM
I'd go with the Submariner without a doubt. I agree with the others that PAM, you should go for the 44mm.
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: erin8817 on January 02, 2014, 07:54:02 PM
Rolex SubC for me. Go for Rolex 1st, then you can start adding to your collection later....
I'm biased anyway cos I'm eyeing for my 1st rollie  :)

An interesting or stupid/debatable article from Watch Snob. (Depending on your POV).
http://www.askmen.com/fashion/mens-watches_500/586_best-watch-brands-watch-snob.html

Comments from the article.

"Then there are watches that only the uneducated and simpleminded believe to be luxury watches. This distinction goes to Hublot and Panerai, of course. Anyone who buys these watches is a fool, and both companies will shut their doors before I turn 40 — you can count on that. "

"Then there is the mighty Rolex. Would I put Rolex up with Patek or A Lange & Sohne? Not for a second. But, do I consider it a very important step above IWC, Zenith and even Vacheron? Most certainly. The reason is this: People care about Rolex; nobody really cares about those other brands."

" but in 20 years, your Rolex will be worth something — and everything else will be scrap metal."
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: wshiong on January 02, 2014, 09:12:56 PM
True also, when i wear Rolex, people will said wow.. you have a Rolex, when i wear my Ap, nobody cares to comment.  ???
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: el118 on January 03, 2014, 04:48:11 AM
True also, when i wear Rolex, people will said wow.. you have a Rolex, when i wear my Ap, nobody cares to comment.  ???

That is true for the masses. But if u met watch enthusiasts, the reverse..
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: squasub on January 03, 2014, 06:53:46 AM
Rolex SubC for me. Go for Rolex 1st, then you can start adding to your collection later....
I'm biased anyway cos I'm eyeing for my 1st rollie  :)

An interesting or stupid/debatable article from Watch Snob. (Depending on your POV).
http://www.askmen.com/fashion/mens-watches_500/586_best-watch-brands-watch-snob.html

Comments from the article.

"Then there are watches that only the uneducated and simpleminded believe to be luxury watches. This distinction goes to Hublot and Panerai, of course. Anyone who buys these watches is a fool, and both companies will shut their doors before I turn 40 — you can count on that. "

"Then there is the mighty Rolex. Would I put Rolex up with Patek or A Lange & Sohne? Not for a second. But, do I consider it a very important step above IWC, Zenith and even Vacheron? Most certainly. The reason is this: People care about Rolex; nobody really cares about those other brands."

" but in 20 years, your Rolex will be worth something — and everything else will be scrap metal."

the comments on the page are quite harsh ;) and yes i do understand the value of a rolex
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: swleong on January 03, 2014, 04:00:44 PM
Go for PAM.

Many times, Sub is the 'watch collection killer' as it is a watch that can do it all (dress up, casual, sports, recognition, durable, accurate, resale value).

What's the fun of watch collecting when the first watch already has it all?  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: grifterfmj on January 03, 2014, 05:58:41 PM
I vote for PAM too (that's what I did!), altho admittedly I am now trying to get a Sub  :Laughing_on_floor:

still... no regrets, have not grown bored of the PAM at all
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: Gigi on January 04, 2014, 07:58:45 PM
Green ceramic submariner  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: squasub on January 05, 2014, 07:48:40 PM
green ceramic is nice but out of reach
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: windstruckk on January 05, 2014, 11:56:45 PM
Rolex is a symbol of luxury to the mass market. When you meet people who do not know much about branded watches they will go "wow, this guy is rich".

PAM is more macho definitely, but to the average public, they won't provide that wow factor for you.

For the reason that I'm in the sales line, I think a sub would suit me better.

I am now thinking of getting GMT  ;D
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: ape12 on January 15, 2014, 02:49:51 PM
Rolex subC all the way since yr wrist is rather small. Go with yr heart when choosing a watch, not by brand...
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: Timeless on January 16, 2014, 07:41:07 PM
Vote for pam, try 024 / 104 / 164 etc as classic case should sit your wrist well instead of 1950 case.
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: squasub on January 22, 2014, 11:47:25 AM
thanks for the opinions guys..probably i'll go for the rolex
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: theseira on January 22, 2014, 04:15:41 PM
thanks for the opinions guys..probably i'll go for the rolex

Good choice! :thumbsup: I'd go subC also.
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: manSubmariner on January 23, 2014, 11:29:54 AM
For me ill go for SubC.. But Sea Dweller aso  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: Danheng1 on February 10, 2014, 07:14:20 PM
I had the same dilemma years ago.... It was between subC n 351. Ended buying the subC and later added a 112 just to scratch my Pam itch. My wrist also 6.5" and while the Pam doesn't look too big on my wrist, it is a bit uncomfortable to wear as it's top heavy. While the sub happened to b the most comfortable watch I ever owned.

Finally decided to flip the Pam for a jlc. I like the Pam macho looks. And it's clean n simple dial. also if you change he straps (I have 4 sets) it will look like a diff watch. Thumbs up on that.  But it just wear totally uncomfortable on my wrist. My 2 cents

Another point is that the sub goes with any attire from formal to Bermuda pants. While the Pam is limited to at most buisiness casual
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: enkil on February 12, 2014, 01:38:35 AM
Slowly try to get both   :Cheers:
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: JeepWH on February 17, 2014, 02:05:58 PM
PAM is more for the modern young execs. SubC will go with all dress codes
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: SKy Lim on April 13, 2015, 12:48:06 PM
I think u already knew what u want,your words says it all...go for Pam,42mm should fit your wrist well,follow your intuition
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: kygan711 on April 13, 2015, 09:30:23 PM
Ever consider the Radiomirs ? They wear smaller than the Luminors if size is a concern.
My wrist is 6.5 inch.

Here is the 45mm and 47mm.  Dont look big at all.

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag315/kygan711/IMG_5509_zpsd5009b18.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/kygan711/media/IMG_5509_zpsd5009b18.jpg.html)

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag315/kygan711/IMG_7542_zps2cthm8r5.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/kygan711/media/IMG_7542_zps2cthm8r5.jpg.html)
Title: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: nikfs1881 on April 13, 2015, 11:47:19 PM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/13/f73593d1d45de7d7e1cf040d010fa754.jpg)
Go for rolex as your first luxury watch, then slowly move to other brands..... One is never enough anyway or even 10.....i know that for sure otherwise you wont be in this forum...... Hehehe.....My SD4000 says hi!


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Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: kingpin on April 13, 2015, 11:48:28 PM
Rollie is my choice.. not really a PAM fan.. sorry
Title: Re: Rolex subC or Panerai PAM392
Post by: Timeless on April 18, 2015, 07:53:18 AM
Seems like pam is singing to u.. try 104, 164 or 024 etc. as bettarini case typically sit well on 6.5" wrist