Post by: watchdiver on January 28, 2016, 12:27:58 PM
I for one like this trend to lower sizes slightly on dressy watches :).
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Post by: hidden830726 on January 29, 2016, 09:13:09 AM
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Post by: leewae91 on January 29, 2016, 11:07:09 AM
Post by: hidden830726 on January 29, 2016, 11:37:23 AM
so the only difference between the stowa and that mark18 is that the movements are to iwc standards?
IWC use SW300, which is equivalent to ETA 2892, which is more advance than the 2824 workhorse. AR both side vs one side, both have its merits. 60vs50m water resistance seems meh, screw down crown or not does not improve water resistance.
IWC have its magnetic protection, which Stowa only have it in their 43mm flieger. IWC probably come with a better strap, but that is secondary.
The main difference is the price.........
Post by: rnsm1979 on January 29, 2016, 12:54:50 PM
so the only difference between the stowa and that mark18 is that the movements are to iwc standards?
IWC use SW300, which is equivalent to ETA 2892, which is more advance than the 2824 workhorse. AR both side vs one side, both have its merits. 60vs50m water resistance seems meh, screw down crown or not does not improve water resistance.
IWC have its magnetic protection, which Stowa only have it in their 43mm flieger. IWC probably come with a better strap, but that is secondary.
The main difference is the price.........
hahhahahhaa, well, this is very subjective
Post by: Khairul on January 30, 2016, 06:49:04 PM
Post by: leewae91 on January 30, 2016, 09:48:12 PM
The Miramar version of the MK XVIII is good looking though, still a stealthy 40mm.
agreed on that, the military theme seems to make it a lot more attractive
Post by: Alvin-8880 on January 31, 2016, 05:24:36 PM
Now that the Mk XVIII size is reduced to 40mm, it must look even smaller. Personally I like the fan window of MK XVII especially with the red arrow. It is the eye of the dragon in Chinese saying. ;D The whole dial came alive because of that .
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Post by: watchdiver on February 01, 2016, 02:45:38 AM
The Miramar version of the MK XVIII is good looking though, still a stealthy 40mm.
I think the Miramar MK XVIII is 41mm according to the site (http://www.iwc.com/en/collection/pilots/IW324702/). I do love the military dial and would love to see this in blue. (Top Gun Chrono on left is 44mm)
(http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16072.0;attach=2426;image)
I have to agree with members, the main difference is just the price tag but TBH i have to say the finishing done by IWC is much better than STOWA. Its up to an individual preferences. If you dont mind spending more on a good finishing watch then why not? But it doesn't mean that STOWA is not a good watch. Both are beutiful IMO but for me i have to say i love the new IWC :)
Have you handled both side by side? How much better is the case work and finishing on the IWC vs Stowa (love the look of both watches, but never handled the Stowa in person).
I own a Mk XVII and find it the smallest on my wrist compared to smaller watches like Rolexes at 40mm.
Now that the Mk XVIII size is reduced to 40mm, it must look even smaller. Personally I like the fan window of MK XVII especially with the red arrow. It is the eye of the dragon in Chinese saying. ;D The whole dial came alive because of that .
I do love that altimeter inspired date window, I felt it was very unique. Do you have a wrist shot to show how the Mk XVII wears compared to your 40mm Rolex?
Post by: hidden830726 on February 01, 2016, 04:49:29 AM
Not to belittle IWC, i really like the new offering, the case is probably better, anti magnetism, 10m more water resistance, screw down crown, and most importantly, brand recognition wise, IWC is way more recognize.
i would have justify paying the price if its their own movement instead of a Selita. Im not saying Selita no good, but i really have no way to justify the price.
With roughly the price, Tudor offer inhouse movement and better value. Or with roughly 1/3 of its value, Damasko give better technology in their offering.
So what are we buying with IWC?
Post by: Jedirat on February 01, 2016, 10:58:38 AM
Actually when i said the main difference between a Stowa and IWC is the price, im just joking. Im a big IWC fans myself.
Not to belittle IWC, i really like the new offering, the case is probably better, anti magnetism, 10m more water resistance, screw down crown, and most importantly, brand recognition wise, IWC is way more recognize.
i would have justify paying the price if its their own movement instead of a Selita. Im not saying Selita no good, but i really have no way to justify the price.
With roughly the price, Tudor offer inhouse movement and better value. Or with roughly 1/3 of its value, Damasko give better technology in their offering.
So what are we buying with IWC?
I like IWC as well. Ppl buying IWC maybe because it is a watch just made for man? haha..
Btw, I more prefer Mark XVII than XVIII IMHO, 40 mm is rather small even Mark XVII 41 mm is considered no too big.
Post by: leewae91 on February 01, 2016, 11:03:08 AM
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Post by: watches12 on February 01, 2016, 05:18:39 PM
I am disappointed with the whole SIHH pilot range.
I guess every real watch lover is
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Post by: hidden830726 on February 02, 2016, 10:43:59 AM
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Post by: vkalia on February 02, 2016, 02:36:43 PM
Gotta see it in the hand to appreciate it.
Post by: hidden830726 on February 02, 2016, 06:03:58 PM
Post by: sidestreaker on February 07, 2016, 04:11:35 PM
Hmmm... Where's Sidestreaker? Im waiting for his comment...
In short, I like it.
I think they are actually listening to some of the complaints about the previous line up and made some improvements over them.
Till this date, I think the company has built a strong brand name through endorsement and events. And to this regard, the Pilot line is perhaps the most recognizable product of IWC. When we talk about luxury market, brand presence matters. These will sell like hot cakes.
My personal pick so far:
1. Little Prince BP
2. White dial Mark XVIII
3. Miramar XVIII
However, as none of the above are limited editions, I'll wait and see. If the pattern of IWC release is consistent, there will be new iterations of the new models in the subsequent months. I'd personally would like to see more dial options for the BP in the future.
Post by: hidden830726 on February 07, 2016, 04:34:11 PM
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Post by: roystock on February 09, 2016, 10:56:12 AM
First impression was good but the date window is too near the centre for my liking.
Initially, I thought it was merely the designer's preference, maybe IWC, for some reason, prefer to align the date with numeral 2 and 4?
Then, further readings suggest that the selita movement is too small for the case and hence the unattractive date placement :P
Post by: Alvin-8880 on February 09, 2016, 08:55:47 PM
Surprised to know they are using Selita instead of ETA this time.
Post by: hidden830726 on February 13, 2016, 05:22:49 AM
Post by: chrisyen on February 15, 2016, 01:36:26 PM
N I really dunno y Iwc like to keep changing their watches design
Especially the Ingenieur n aquatimer
N now the pilot
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Post by: Nickmax on March 16, 2016, 07:15:22 AM
I like the new 40mm, but not the new dial design, making it too "traditional" & conservative.
I totally agree with you.
Mark 16 with silver dial is still my favourite in this series
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Post by: G.MAC on May 15, 2016, 07:11:38 PM
To be honest I'm drawn to the 36mm model. Don't you think the date placement is just off for the 40mm? I mean for this watch pricing Isn't it a serious overlook?
Wasn't too obvious at first but now that everyone has pointed it out, it is starting to look odd to me. Still I am quite attracted to the Mark XVIII LPP but am not ready to pull the trigger as of yet.
Post by: adamjohari on May 15, 2016, 07:39:34 PM
Post by: watchfreak on May 20, 2016, 11:34:56 PM
Anyone know when is this available in Malaysia?I received email from IWC that it is available for viewing already, have yet to check it out personally :)
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Post by: Cocas on June 17, 2016, 01:47:18 PM
Post by: asimo on June 17, 2016, 03:35:57 PM
Then Rolex is better and sincere, to be exact is reputable because its entry or basic level watch still using inhouse movement.
Agreed with you, and they use high grade 904L steel even entry level watches (start from rm20k for a Oyster perpetual), and it come with a robust inhouse movement (and proprietary innovations ). And the maintenance cost is Comparable with other luxury watch brands.
Certain luxury brands give non inhouse movement even though cost above rm20k!
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Post by: dualcarb on June 17, 2016, 03:42:38 PM
Then Rolex is better and sincere, to be exact is reputable because its entry or basic level watch still using inhouse movement.
Agreed with you, and they use high grade 916L steel even entry level watches (start from rm20k for a Oyster perpetual), and it come with a robust inhouse movement. And the maintenance cost is Comparable with other luxury watch brands.
Certain luxury brands give non inhouse movement even though cost above rm20k!
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I agree with the both of you. Rolex is the only brand amongst Omega, Panerai and the likes which uses third party (ETA) movement on some of their pieces. Rolex also does not milk the market by offering "limited edition" or "special edition" watches. A Rolex is a Rolex and is as honest as day with in house everything.
Post by: elado249 on June 17, 2016, 03:49:46 PM
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Post by: dualcarb on June 17, 2016, 06:43:20 PM
So no forum members bought the new Mark XVIII ? The LPP blue version looks good , 2nd is the white dial ... Wonder it is the first time IWC come out with white dial pilot watches ?No budget right now. I love the blue on the LPP though...unless I let go of some pieces, but I am rather reluctant to do that at the moment.
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Post by: asimo on June 17, 2016, 09:27:45 PM
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Post by: watchdiver on June 17, 2016, 11:44:56 PM
Read someone mentioned in a western watch forum that the New Mark XVIII actually USD1k cheaper than the XVII .. But in Malaysia XVIII is more expensive by RM1K at RM18.4K
Where did you read this? Sounds interesting.
Post by: elado249 on June 18, 2016, 05:03:27 AM
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Post by: asimo on June 18, 2016, 07:35:10 AM
I do read that IWC lowered their price for this model, but i think its typical malaysian retailer/ad way
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But in Malaysia, the official retail price increase from rm17.4k to rm18.4k for Mark 18
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Post by: roystock on June 20, 2016, 06:10:13 PM
Surprisingly, the date window doesn't bother me and I sure prefer the size to mark xvii.
However, the watch doesn't wear well on me due to the design of its lug which is a little long for my liking.
I guess it is time to look out for a xvi
Post by: ilovehotdogss on June 22, 2016, 06:26:46 PM
Post by: spacewalker on February 14, 2018, 05:12:17 PM
I tried the mark xviii today, side by side with a xvii.
Surprisingly, the date window doesn't bother me and I sure prefer the size to mark xvii.
However, the watch doesn't wear well on me due to the design of its lug which is a little long for my liking.
I guess it is time to look out for a xvi
Even it is 40mm but the lug to lug of this pilot is about 50mm. It is wear big . For me, the diamater is one thing, now I'm focusing more on the lug to lug length for better fitting for my wrist. I'd try IWC Pilot 377709 Chrono 43mm , the diameter is ok but the lug (lug to lug 53mm) had exceed my wrist. Doesn't fit me well. Any help from IWC gurus or expert in this forum is appreciate since I'm still looking for a pilot watch.
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Post by: dualcarb on February 17, 2018, 05:34:01 AM
Most of my collection is diver watch. Got bore with bulky case , thick bezel, and round hour marker. I kinda like the simplicity pilot watch.It doesn't have to be chrono. Must be white arabic numerial , black dial , leather strap, flat sapphire and diameter 40-41mm. That's it. I have the B&R steel 03-92 and want to add some more pilot watch. Omega seem to be over my budget. I'd eyeing the Longines Avigation Bigeye Chrono, will check it out next week. The IWC Portofino also catch my eye, anyone here can pm me the best deal /discount for IWC.
This is the review on one of the watch sites for the IWC 36mm pilots.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/new-iwc-pilots-watch-automatic-36mm
I’m sure you would be able to purchase it for around RM 12,000 if you looked around for a bit.
Post by: maxthecat80 on February 17, 2018, 07:02:51 AM
Biggest difference is the red arrow at the triple date window. This divides opinion, i know.. some hate it as its not really 'flieger' per se, but i think it adds aviator feel to the whole watch...
Plus if you are spending 10k+, it needs to be different. Otherwise on a simple ETA, might as well get Stowa/Laco?
Post by: sidestreaker on March 28, 2018, 11:15:19 AM
Waited since SIHH 2016 for the right Pilot watch to appear and my patience paid off. The Mark 18 Heritage Titanium just works IMO. Managed to find an OEM leather studded strap for this size to give that mini bigpilot look ;D
(https://flic.kr/p/22Dkrhg)
Post by: Caseywai on April 02, 2018, 10:26:20 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4713/39147551835_f946977a3b_c.jpg)
Waited since SIHH 2016 for the right Pilot watch to appear and my patience paid off. The Mark 18 Heritage Titanium just works IMO. Managed to find an OEM leather studded strap for this size to give that mini bigpilot look ;D
(https://flic.kr/p/22Dkrhg)
Wow it looks very nice with the aged liked lume. Matches nicely with the strap!
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Post by: kukujiao on April 02, 2018, 11:22:04 AM
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Post by: jacobng on April 03, 2018, 10:56:04 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4713/39147551835_f946977a3b_c.jpg)
Waited since SIHH 2016 for the right Pilot watch to appear and my patience paid off. The Mark 18 Heritage Titanium just works IMO. Managed to find an OEM leather studded strap for this size to give that mini bigpilot look ;D
(https://flic.kr/p/22Dkrhg)
Where did you buy this strap ? :Startled: :Startled: :Startled:
Need the link !
Post by: sidestreaker on April 03, 2018, 03:26:06 PM
Where did you buy this strap ? :Startled: :Startled: :Startled:
Need the link !
OEM strap from IWC boutique. If they don't have stock, you may ask for their workbook, browse through it and order it. They'll advice on the time needed to source it or replenish the stock through the manufacturer.
Post by: Laccola1980 on April 19, 2018, 03:18:16 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4713/39147551835_f946977a3b_c.jpg)
Waited since SIHH 2016 for the right Pilot watch to appear and my patience paid off. The Mark 18 Heritage Titanium just works IMO. Managed to find an OEM leather studded strap for this size to give that mini bigpilot look ;D
(https://flic.kr/p/22Dkrhg)
Wow it looks very nice with the aged liked lume. Matches nicely with the strap!
I totally agree with Caseywai. Enjoy it! :D
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