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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: Yikkie on August 12, 2013, 08:25:46 AM
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Hi all! From your own perspective, which watch would you go for and what is the reason behind your choice? Both watches are within the same price band. Please feel free to offer an alternative if you could think of one. :Cheers:
I now present:
The IWC Portofino 8 days hand wound with a novel 8D power reserve.
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/e3a457db96ea2252e09bf8f638624490_zps70791326.jpg)
The JLC Grande Reverso Duo with 2 dials driven by the same movement.
Recto:
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/b5427c4cc1fe410ef7568a2d21a71a32_zps0c30b219.jpg)
Verso:
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/ed01eca12b2c43082443b57a1e144503_zps4888dd12.jpg)
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Reverso for me. I find it more pleasing to look at!
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i love the 8 days, but in this case i'd go for reverso, reason why? because the JLC DNA on reverso is too strong ;D
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Jaeger-Looks classic n nicer.
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i love the 8 days, but in this case i'd go for reverso, reason why? because the JLC DNA on reverso is too strong ;D
spot on bro....
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I too chose the reverso. The layout of this reverso dial is more symmetrical. Although I like the IWC Portofino 8 days (especially the one with blue dial) I do not find the movement too appealing. ;D
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In this case, I would go for the JLC Reverso as well.
The overall package is just much more pleasing.
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Hmmmm.... almost every bits of Jaeger is made in house and horological aspect, jaeger is far too strong... i have to say jaeger for this time !!
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Two different watch. Hard to compare which is better. Do you own any other model of either brand?
Regard
Tyler
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Will choose the JLC over IWC given its heritage and the iconic case design. I especially like the blue dial boutique version which cost the same as the standard version. However, the Santoni leather on the IWC looks particularly classy, but the topic here is on watch not strap.
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Just based purely on your shortlist i will say JLC.
Iconic look, to me one of the must haves.
But like Tyler said, unless you can tell us besides price what other criteria you are looking at in a watch, if not hard to really pin point.
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I was just handling that very JLC reverso last week at a boutique and I must say it is quite impressive (coming from an IWC fan here and I own that very 8 days Portofino too).
I agree with Godzillaz that these are 2 very different watches and you are really comparing durian and rambutan here. One of the reason I went for the Port 8 days was because I never have the liking for rectangular-like watch case, and that's really it. You really need to try it on an let us know what you feel about them.
Anyway, here's my bias opinion: Go for the IWC Portofino 8 days, it makes a better statement, unique, and carries much more character, great for formal and casual wear, durable and very stable movement, makes head turn everytime. It may not be as 'fine' as the JLC reverso and cannot match the quality pedigree of movement, but heck, it makes a louder statement and has lot more fun-factor IMO. It's a good balance of a not too bad manufacturer movement and great visual impression and aesthetic. Just my dua sen...
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I find myself can't wear rectangular or square watches well. I will prefer round shape watches though they are ubiquitous
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Thanks for all the feedback guys! It is very much appreciated. :Cheers: My watch collection is mainly of the "sporty" variety with my dressiest watch being the speedy Pro! Hence, I am looking for a slightly more elegant watch that I could wear for more formal events but could also look good with casual wear. That is the reason why I shortlisted these 2 watches as they are not overly dressy like a PP Calatrava. My heart is with the Reverso as it is an iconic design by a respected Manufacture but I do like the IWC Portofino as I think it looks great on my wrist. :) The santoni leather strap is pretty awesome too. I have tried both watches but still unable to decide which one to go for. I am leaning towards the JLC for now. ;D
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Reverso for me!
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Reversooo
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I prefer the JLC but I wouldn't consider it a versatile watch to wear with casual clothes (compared to, say, your Speedie.
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Follow your heart.
If all fails flip a coin LOL !
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I will go for reverso. Actually you got 2 watch if you go for Reverso.
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I like JLC but not a fan for square watches, so in this case, IWC
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I was just handling that very JLC reverso last week at a boutique and I must say it is quite impressive (coming from an IWC fan here and I own that very 8 days Portofino too).
I agree with Godzillaz that these are 2 very different watches and you are really comparing durian and rambutan here. One of the reason I went for the Port 8 days was because I never have the liking for rectangular-like watch case, and that's really it. You really need to try it on an let us know what you feel about them.
Anyway, here's my bias opinion: Go for the IWC Portofino 8 days, it makes a better statement, unique, and carries much more character, great for formal and casual wear, durable and very stable movement, makes head turn everytime. It may not be as 'fine' as the JLC reverso and cannot match the quality pedigree of movement, but heck, it makes a louder statement and has lot more fun-factor IMO. It's a good balance of a not too bad manufacturer movement and great visual impression and aesthetic. Just my dua sen...
+1 , IWC for me on this one . (I am a JLC fanboi btw)
My opinion is going to be really weird ..
What i don't quite like about the reverso , is this - i don't really know when to wear it?
Not power enough to be a daily watch (in my line of work) . I pick a Rolex or AP as daily wear anyday.
At the same time , i think that there are nicer watches to wear with a suit for formal occasions . (A white dial , with moonphase Chrono complications for example)
So the only time i will wear a reverso is a weekend casual lunch? and maybe going to Church
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JLC for me too bro.... The reverso is a classic from JLC..
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...So the only time i will wear a reverso is a weekend casual lunch? and maybe going to Church...
My brother has a reverso and sort of like came to a similar sentiment...
He's telling me now he's eyeing on the IWC Pilot Watches....
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The votes for IWC are picking up
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The votes for IWC are picking up
Haha. The IWC is indeed picking up momentum. :) Just to add to my headache, I seem to have developed a liking for the Glashutte Pano collection as well. ???
The Panoinverse XL
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/74d6d583789f26295b9db67bdd3a3f8e_zps5f2b3125.jpg)
The Panomaticlunar
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/31102d62b4e0918ec3b55260ffb3e92e_zps4f3638f6.jpg)
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I was just handling that very JLC reverso last week at a boutique and I must say it is quite impressive (coming from an IWC fan here and I own that very 8 days Portofino too).
I agree with Godzillaz that these are 2 very different watches and you are really comparing durian and rambutan here. One of the reason I went for the Port 8 days was because I never have the liking for rectangular-like watch case, and that's really it. You really need to try it on an let us know what you feel about them.
Anyway, here's my bias opinion: Go for the IWC Portofino 8 days, it makes a better statement, unique, and carries much more character, great for formal and casual wear, durable and very stable movement, makes head turn everytime. It may not be as 'fine' as the JLC reverso and cannot match the quality pedigree of movement, but heck, it makes a louder statement and has lot more fun-factor IMO. It's a good balance of a not too bad manufacturer movement and great visual impression and aesthetic. Just my dua sen...
Does your 8 days suffer accuracy problem?
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The Panomaticlunar would be my choice. Both contemporary (off-center time telling hrs.& secs) and heritage looking (lunar display) traditionally time telling watch round.
Its blacked background facia is clean and yet elegant looking with sprinkles of chrome indicators. It shows off the fine craftmanships of the watch.
Beautiful.
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Why no Rolex? I am in a wrong forum? ??? ??? ???
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JOS should be chipping in soon since he is an owner of the Glashutte Panomatic IIRC.
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Does your 8 days suffer accuracy problem?
Of course it does! It's not IWC if it is not faster! :P It's +6 sec per day.
However it is very precise. It is consistently 6/7 sec per day, irregardless of activity. Meaning that after regulation, it should be spot on. I'll only send it for regulation during maintenance service right before the warranty is over. That way I'll get other 'freebie' service along with it. ;D
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(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/74d6d583789f26295b9db67bdd3a3f8e_zps5f2b3125.jpg)
The Panomaticlunar
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/31102d62b4e0918ec3b55260ffb3e92e_zps4f3638f6.jpg)
NOW you're talking! That GO Panomatic Lunar is worth the attention!
Here's another suggestion:
(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv272/sidestreaker/Timepiece/PA052842.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/sidestreaker/media/Timepiece/PA052842.jpg.html)
(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv272/sidestreaker/Timepiece/PA052843.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/sidestreaker/media/Timepiece/PA052843.jpg.html)
the PanoReserve is one of my favourite GO
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Any bro (or sis ;D) can PM me the best place to buy a GO and the best discount for it. Thanks! :Cheers:
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Any bro (or sis ;D) can PM me the best place to buy a GO and the best discount for it. Thanks! :Cheers:
Mind to pm me as well, the Panoinverse XL really nice, thanks in advance :Cheers:
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The Panomaticlunar would be my choice. Both contemporary (off-center time telling hrs.& secs) and heritage looking (lunar display) traditionally time telling watch round.
Its blacked background facia is clean and yet elegant looking with sprinkles of chrome indicators. It shows off the fine craftmanships of the watch.
Beautiful.
bullseye! :thumbsup:
by the way Yikkie, I encourage you to do more research...you're definitely in the process of more self-poisoning (good luck!!)....maybe you'll also look at Lange 1? :Cheers: :Cheers:
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I would personally take the JLC. Reason being simple enough, it is the most recognizable of the shortlisted. At a quick glance on your wrist, I would instantly correlate the rectangular watch case with Reverso. The rest does not have that 'strength' and needs more time to create an identity tHat can be recognizable at an instant.
That's only my humble opinion and hope it does not offend others.
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I heard hanz calling...
Yes I have GO's including the Panomatic Lunar..you can refer to this link.
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,332.msg64904.html#msg64904
I also happen to have a few JLCs including a Reverso Grande GMT
Both JLCs & GOs are distinctly very different watches and I love watches from both these manufactures equally but yet differently.
About the JLC, not all wrists can take a Reverso due to its flat rectangular base. I suggest you try it out before going any further.
My missus loves the ladies Reverso but the watch just doesn't sit nicely on her wrist as her wrist is more rounded whereas mine is quite flat.
So as much as she loves a Reverso and wants 1, she has to settle for watches from other manufactures...
In terms of quality both of them are beyond reproach. I've always been a JLC fan since I was young but only started to own a few since early 2000.
I started buying GO's only lately and their 3/4 plate designs are unique to German movements like Lange/GO. I would say that finishing and aesthetically the GO is a step higher than JLC but JLC have far more calibres and complications than GO.
As for IWC , I have a ceramic Top Gun Chrono. I would say that of the 3, the IWC is the most industrial looking whereas the JLC and GO are more refined. I use the IWC for outdoor, sweaty and sporty activities. The JLC & GO is more for weekend indoor, casual side cafe coffee/beer sipping activities.
Regarding the Portofino 8 days HW, I nearly pulled the trigger on the blue dial model at IWC Boutique Pavilion but something about the small balance wheel in a big pocket watch calibre put me off.... but that's just me and my personal feelings.....
You can't go wrong with either. I wouldnt give up a JLC for a GO and vice versa.
I have however many times in the past chosen a GO over an IWC whenever I was looking for a specific complication.
I'd have GO & JLC and GS to complement each other and to suit the time and occasion......
To answer the q on GO, I got one GO from the The Hour Glass Singapore and another GO from THG Pavilion. AFAIK GO is only sold by THG group in Malaysia/Singapore.
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even thou I'm a huge JLC fan, the Glashutte open back movement and dial design I think edges out the JLC this time around
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Thanks for all the wonderful feedback! You guys are really the best! :Cheers: I have tried all 4 watches and seem to like them all! I really like the AP Royal Oak as well but unfortunately, my budget could not be stretched that far. My wrist is relatively flat and the Reverso seems to sit pretty ok on it. I might just pull the trigger on the Reverso but the Lunar is a pretty awesome watch as well. The finishing and the swan neck regulator coupled with the 3 1/4 plate is pretty enticing. Damn. I might just need to flip a coin after all . :)
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I think the finishing are model specific for GO and JLC. The price is another determine factor. Try a 8 days reverso with the Panoinverse. Then is better a comparison.
Regard
Tyler
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Out of the 3, I will choose JLC, simply because it is a classic. I was told that one's watch collection is never complete without a reverso.
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The Reverso is an icon. I will go with the Reverso.
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The Portofino 8 Days is easily my choice due to its classic dial and beautiful strap, not to mention IWC beautiful hand wound calibre on this watch. Although can be astounding on the wrist due to its size, I like it that way. 8)
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since u pull in the GO, i'd go for pano non-XL blue moonphase :)
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Does your 8 days suffer accuracy problem?
Of course it does! It's not IWC if it is not faster! :P It's +6 sec per day.
However it is very precise. It is consistently 6/7 sec per day, irregardless of activity. Meaning that after regulation, it should be spot on. I'll only send it for regulation during maintenance service right before the warranty is over. That way I'll get other 'freebie' service along with it. ;D
IWC actually stands for "Inaccurate Watch Company".... :laugh:
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IWC actually stands for "Inaccurate Watch Company".... :laugh:
:Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
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JLC.. richer heritage and characteristic. In addition, the uniqueness of REVERSO make it a timeless classic.
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My mind is almost made up. The force with the Reverso is strong.
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Hi Yikkie, not everyone will like a square or rectangular watch. My pick is of course the grande reverso with its manly size n dual face n one movement.Just try it on n really feel it before buying it .
Out of the 3, I will choose JLC, simply because it is a classic. I was told that one's watch collection is never complete without a reverso.
It should be one's collection ain't complete without a JLC or rather Have you ever worn a real watch. Regards tony.
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It should be one's collection ain't complete without a JLC or rather Have you ever worn a real watch. Regards tony.
No, I have not worn a reverso, or see one in real life. I would really want to thou. Perhaps I'll wait for a gathering, that should be my best bet. Or do anyone know anyplace I can try it on in Kuching? No boutique or AD as far as I know.
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Have you tried the dealer at Sarawak Plaza?
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If you come to kl, there are several ad s there. Hope you have the opportunity to do so . Regards tony.
It should be one's collection ain't complete without a JLC or rather Have you ever worn a real watch. Regards tony.
No, I have not worn a reverso, or see one in real life. I would really want to thou. Perhaps I'll wait for a gathering, that should be my best bet. Or do anyone know anyplace I can try it on in Kuching? No boutique or AD as far as I know.
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Have you tried the dealer at Sarawak Plaza?
No. I'd been to the 1 in Tun Jugah, just many Omegas. I'll check Sarawak Plaza this weekend then.
Thanks.
If you come to kl, there are several ad s there. Hope you have the opportunity to do so . Regards tony.
Thanks. I'd been to KL a few times, but never visit any watch dealer. Anyway, just beginning to exit watch idiot camp, was not aware of fine timepieces before. I wouldn't even know what is JLC a year ago.
Perhaps I'll let you guys know the next time when I'm going there. :)
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For a dressy elegant watch... my vote goes to GO. I've always liked the PanoInverse and Sixties Square in particular.
I dont have a JLC or IWC but I do admire some of their fine timepieces. Maybe in the future...
For GO, try the Dicks*n shop if you're visiting Orchard Road.
Enjoy your hunt and the watch!
:Cheers:
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Have you tried the dealer at Sarawak Plaza?
Went to the said shop. Lots of interesting timepiece, even got an AP RO, but no Reverso unfortunately.
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Finally decided on the JLC Grande Reverso Duoface. ;D Loving it so far. This is a watch that needs to be appreciated in real life as pictures do not do it justice.
Wrist shots:
RECTO:-
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/IMAG1953_BURST002_1_zps3b164cb5.jpg)
VERSO:-
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/IMAG1955_BURST005_1_zps1cf14182.jpg)
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Congratulations on your acquisition. Great choice there! Wear it in good heath! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Congrats mate. The watch oozes class like no other. You're da man.
Wear it in good health.
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like buying two watches :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Ahhh... Another thread what to buy thread that have a happy ending.
Congratz bro and wear it in good health.
A very nice watch that.
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Thanks guys for the kind words. :Cheers: Your comments and opinions have been invaluable in solving my dilemma. :thumbsup:
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Good choice , congrats.
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Initially i chose Glashutte but I think Jaeger just has that extra oomph....
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Congratulation! Wear it in good health.
The Grande date was bit too big for my wrist size and I've settled with the grande UT instead and am loving it as well :)
Finally decided on the JLC Grande Reverso Duoface. ;D Loving it so far. This is a watch that needs to be appreciated in real life as pictures do not do it justice.
Wrist shots:
RECTO:-
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/IMAG1953_BURST002_1_zps3b164cb5.jpg)
VERSO:-
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/IMAG1955_BURST005_1_zps1cf14182.jpg)
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Here's come my legendary pilot mark 12 ! Born after the legendary caliber 89 military grade mark 11. This is the only mark series that beats with a JLC movement! :thumbsup: JLC in a IWC :Laughing_on_floor:
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x421/olkuu0205/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20190309_113058_zpsuhrvrw93.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/olkuu0205/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20190309_113058_zpsuhrvrw93.jpg.html)
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x421/olkuu0205/2019-03-08-14-27-19-586_zpsqwhftlfs.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/olkuu0205/media/2019-03-08-14-27-19-586_zpsqwhftlfs.jpg.html)
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JLC Reverso FTW! Classic rectangular design with amazing history. Downside is 2nd hand price is horrible ???
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JLC - Best from value and brand perspective. Also most recognisable by design so they would be my choice from the list.