Post by: 2ndOpinion on April 26, 2021, 03:48:29 PM
deposits, and crazy asking prices by grey dealers, or those lucky to grab one at boutique launch.
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Post by: 2ndOpinion on April 26, 2021, 04:03:05 PM
like the Paul Newman 6263 Daytona....
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Post by: bulletnos on April 26, 2021, 05:25:45 PM
Post by: 2ndOpinion on April 26, 2021, 07:04:48 PM
Was so sure of the black until I saw the white.
The paid-up deposits for the white are like 70% over the black, according to the boutique.
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Post by: 2ndOpinion on April 26, 2021, 08:09:19 PM
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Post by: dpkong on April 26, 2021, 08:30:09 PM
In a year%u2019s time, likely buy one get one free....
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not sure if that's sarcasm or advice...
Post by: apache0909 on April 26, 2021, 10:24:10 PM
Hype.. wait a year and hope for a discount. White would have been nicer if the hour markers had a black surroundSpot on! I personally would rather they dont include the date at all, but the bezel looks irresistible though!
Post by: G.MAC on April 27, 2021, 05:32:27 AM
Hype.. wait a year and hope for a discount. White would have been nicer if the hour markers had a black surround
I agree on this. The current look does lack contrast. Nonetheless, congratulations to bro 2ndOpinion on your new watch.
Post by: Gentlemen101 on April 27, 2021, 05:43:16 AM
Post by: bulletnos on April 27, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
Of course, this post would be meaningless if I didn’t.
Was so sure of the black until I saw the white.
The paid-up deposits for the white are like 70% over the black, according to the boutique.
Congratulations then! :thumbsup:
Because I went to the boutique only to see, but was already someone else's. Good choice too on the White - my personal preference too!
Cheers
Post by: W3ll on April 27, 2021, 11:40:48 AM
Hype.. wait a year and hope for a discount. White would have been nicer if the hour markers had a black surround
A discount is probably too optimistic with the rate Tudor is going currently, the BB58 OG is still missing from the shelves to this day after so long, though if you are seriously getting one they probably can get you on the list with at max 2 weeks to 3 weeks wait right now but still no hope for a discount.. not sure bout the GMT though, don't see much people talking bout that piece anymore
Post by: bulletnos on April 27, 2021, 12:11:27 PM
Rolex/Tudor strategy to drive the price hype perhaps? And discount is certainly impossible for these hot models especially the BB58...!
Post by: W3ll on April 27, 2021, 12:50:19 PM
I heard from an AD that Tudor prices will be going up effective 1st May 2021. :HammerHead:
Rolex/Tudor strategy to drive the price hype perhaps? And discount is certainly impossible for these hot models especially the BB58...!
wow few days away
Post by: dpkong on April 27, 2021, 06:53:49 PM
Hype.. wait a year and hope for a discount. White would have been nicer if the hour markers had a black surround
A discount is probably too optimistic with the rate Tudor is going currently, the BB58 OG is still missing from the shelves to this day after so long, though if you are seriously getting one they probably can get you on the list with at max 2 weeks to 3 weeks wait right now but still no hope for a discount.. not sure bout the GMT though, don't see much people talking bout that piece anymore
2-3 weeks wait probably sounds like the stock is sitting in the safe and not on display.
GMT probably at a discount now
Post by: faizall on April 28, 2021, 06:49:45 AM
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Post by: W3ll on May 17, 2021, 12:42:52 PM
Nice watch bro im also getting my white chrono soon. Currently having a new blue BB58.
how long was the queue being told by your AD?
Post by: legend888 on May 17, 2021, 07:19:48 PM
Nice watch bro im also getting my white chrono soon. Currently having a new blue BB58.
how long was the queue being told by your AD?
around 2 months bro,maybe will get by next month
Post by: W3ll on May 18, 2021, 05:41:49 AM
Nice watch bro im also getting my white chrono soon. Currently having a new blue BB58.
how long was the queue being told by your AD?
around 2 months bro,maybe will get by next month
That’s quite fast, been told the wait is up to 12 months now..
Any deposit required?
Post by: bulletnos on May 18, 2021, 09:01:49 AM
Post by: W3ll on May 18, 2021, 11:05:27 PM
the AD i get from requires full payment. But also means guarantee can get la i guess...just a matter of time. the steel bracelet version may take around 2 months estimate, but the leather strap one has better availability, especially in black.
2 months for bracelet is not too bad..
Post by: bulletnos on May 19, 2021, 10:33:28 AM
the AD i get from requires full payment. But also means guarantee can get la i guess...just a matter of time. the steel bracelet version may take around 2 months estimate, but the leather strap one has better availability, especially in black.
2 months for bracelet is not too bad..
It's a moving number though...since they don't know what they will get in the box...the "Rolex" way
Post by: XuinTan on May 19, 2021, 01:56:43 PM
Btw is it using same bezel part with Daytona?
Post by: Mushroom Boy on May 19, 2021, 02:08:49 PM
the AD i get from requires full payment. But also means guarantee can get la i guess...just a matter of time. the steel bracelet version may take around 2 months estimate, but the leather strap one has better availability, especially in black.
Watatime? ::)
Post by: bulletnos on May 19, 2021, 06:28:41 PM
the AD i get from requires full payment. But also means guarantee can get la i guess...just a matter of time. the steel bracelet version may take around 2 months estimate, but the leather strap one has better availability, especially in black.
Watatime? ::)
Yup...haha
Post by: bulletnos on May 19, 2021, 06:29:28 PM
Stunning pieces..
Btw is it using same bezel part with Daytona?
No, the Tudor BB Chrono uses non-ceramic - aluminium insert.
Post by: W3ll on May 20, 2021, 07:31:49 AM
the AD i get from requires full payment. But also means guarantee can get la i guess...just a matter of time. the steel bracelet version may take around 2 months estimate, but the leather strap one has better availability, especially in black.
2 months for bracelet is not too bad..
It's a moving number though...since they don't know what they will get in the box...the "Rolex" way
I guess for watatime if you manage to jump into the queue with full payment during the first or 2nd day of launch you should be able to get the watch within 2-3 months, those that subsequently join the list will probably end up being told a minimum of 6 months.. now most AD already say is going to be 12 months wait.. not sure if the stock is limited or the demand is too great.. quite blown away by the waitlist duration
Post by: Mushroom Boy on May 20, 2021, 12:54:27 PM
Post by: dpkong on May 20, 2021, 07:18:22 PM
the AD i get from requires full payment. But also means guarantee can get la i guess...just a matter of time. the steel bracelet version may take around 2 months estimate, but the leather strap one has better availability, especially in black.
2 months for bracelet is not too bad..
It's a moving number though...since they don't know what they will get in the box...the "Rolex" way
I guess for watatime if you manage to jump into the queue with full payment during the first or 2nd day of launch you should be able to get the watch within 2-3 months, those that subsequently join the list will probably end up being told a minimum of 6 months.. now most AD already say is going to be 12 months wait.. not sure if the stock is limited or the demand is too great.. quite blown away by the waitlist duration
A long wait period may not be good for Tudor. Their designs are not like Rolex and people may lose interest by the time their turn is up. The 12 months wait might suddenly be shorter. So if the AD calls you earlier than expected, it means a lot of others may have decided to let it go.
Post by: XuinTan on May 20, 2021, 10:03:12 PM
Post by: W3ll on May 21, 2021, 07:47:35 AM
the AD i get from requires full payment. But also means guarantee can get la i guess...just a matter of time. the steel bracelet version may take around 2 months estimate, but the leather strap one has better availability, especially in black.
2 months for bracelet is not too bad..
It's a moving number though...since they don't know what they will get in the box...the "Rolex" way
I guess for watatime if you manage to jump into the queue with full payment during the first or 2nd day of launch you should be able to get the watch within 2-3 months, those that subsequently join the list will probably end up being told a minimum of 6 months.. now most AD already say is going to be 12 months wait.. not sure if the stock is limited or the demand is too great.. quite blown away by the waitlist duration
A long wait period may not be good for Tudor. Their designs are not like Rolex and people may lose interest by the time their turn is up. The 12 months wait might suddenly be shorter. So if the AD calls you earlier than expected, it means a lot of others may have decided to let it go.
Most ADs are accepting full payment to a certain substantial amount to lock your position in queue, not sure whether are they refundable. Also i believe they no longer accept any more payment to get into queue since they know the queue already going beyond 1 year..
Post by: dpkong on May 21, 2021, 09:32:07 AM
the AD i get from requires full payment. But also means guarantee can get la i guess...just a matter of time. the steel bracelet version may take around 2 months estimate, but the leather strap one has better availability, especially in black.
2 months for bracelet is not too bad..
It's a moving number though...since they don't know what they will get in the box...the "Rolex" way
I guess for watatime if you manage to jump into the queue with full payment during the first or 2nd day of launch you should be able to get the watch within 2-3 months, those that subsequently join the list will probably end up being told a minimum of 6 months.. now most AD already say is going to be 12 months wait.. not sure if the stock is limited or the demand is too great.. quite blown away by the waitlist duration
A long wait period may not be good for Tudor. Their designs are not like Rolex and people may lose interest by the time their turn is up. The 12 months wait might suddenly be shorter. So if the AD calls you earlier than expected, it means a lot of others may have decided to let it go.
Most ADs are accepting full payment to a certain substantial amount to lock your position in queue, not sure whether are they refundable. Also i believe they no longer accept any more payment to get into queue since they know the queue already going beyond 1 year..
We shall see in due time if the demand is there. Full payment to lock a position isn't very difficult for a 20k watch. If it's a gamble, then surely they are hoping the demand stays especially if the payment is non-refundable although I would think you could opt for a different brand/model and pony up the difference.
Post by: 2ndOpinion on May 21, 2021, 03:41:57 PM
So at US$4.8k, the Tudor’s a big bargain as the Daytona’s cousin.
The KL boutique has stopped taking deposits and signups for the “interest” list for the white.
The white with bracelet wait time is up to 12 months, and longer for the other ADs as the boutique gets the stocks first.
Whatever Tudor launches on May 25th, they won't outsell the 2021 Chrono hailed by so many reviews as Tudor’s best ever.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210521/8ef0d8295e98272c358b92860ff7d5cf.jpg)
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Post by: pleasuresaurus on May 21, 2021, 04:19:10 PM
Miskin la ini macam
Post by: dpkong on May 21, 2021, 06:34:57 PM
Very strong demand worldwide for the white dial as it takes after the classic Daytona 6263, clearing over US$100k at auctions.
So at US$4.8k, the Tudor’s a big bargain as the Daytona’s cousin.
The KL boutique has stopped taking deposits and signups for the “interest” list for the white.
The white with bracelet wait time is up to 12 months, and longer for the other ADs as the boutique gets the stocks first.
Whatever Tudor launches on May 25th, they won't outsell the 2021 Chrono hailed by so many reviews as Tudor’s best ever.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210521/8ef0d8295e98272c358b92860ff7d5cf.jpg)
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Seriously, there is so little in common between the Tudor chrono and the 6263 other than they're both chrono and the Tudor doesn't even have an hour counter..
Agree that the May 25th reveal would probably not be a big seller
And then the next "best Tudor" comes out :Laughing_on_floor:
Miskin la ini macam
hype machine in overdrive... the market now buys watches based on what reviewers say about it and potential profit on flipping, not whether seeing the watch gives you a "wow" feeling.
Post by: strinq on May 21, 2021, 08:15:54 PM
Now it's available everywhere.
I think the wait is just for Tudor to be able to catch up on production. I believe they will be available for the masses like the BB58's. Just a personal opinion.
Also, love the white dial but the visibility is terrible.
Post by: 2ndOpinion on May 21, 2021, 08:28:05 PM
I said it “takes after” the 6263, the common perception of watch reviewers and enthusiasts in the major watch forums. That’s why white is in demand.
On its own, it’s a great wearing and looking watch for just RM20k, an amazing price point and value for money.
And no, I don’t feel like Paul Newnan wearing it, but my Paul Newman is much safer in the safe.
The BB58 Blue was hype and hyperbole, but lived up to them. The Chrono was sprung on the market without any promo blitz like the BB58 Blue, but the watch community was instantly drawn to it for the above reasons, fueling a strong demand.
In short, the Chrono is a cheap watch relative to Rolex but punches the weight of Rolex.
Post by: BOBOWONDERLAND on May 21, 2021, 09:08:01 PM
Chances of getting one in WATATIME is very high compare to other ADs and boutique.
BLACK DIAL steel bracelet (3-6 months)
BLACK DIAL leather strap ( u may get one straight in any WATATIME if ure lucky) do drop a visit in SUNWAY PYRAMID
BLACK dial nato strap probably can get within a month or two
White dial steel bracelet ( probably half year ) currently 4x waiting list ahead and who already has made a full payment ( WATATIME )
White dial leather strap ( waiting list probably 1-2 months or even 3 in WATATIME )
White dial nato strap ( same as leather white dial )
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Post by: 2ndOpinion on May 22, 2021, 08:44:12 AM
Whoa. Great job man. You deserve a bracelet white, if you don't have one!
My contacts at the Sporean owned ADs tell me they’re not getting like 5 to 10 pieces for the bracelet models in each shipment.
It's more like 1 to 3 pieces, and if the trend continues, they feel the bracelet chronos will end up as an “incentive allocation,” like the Rolex steel models, based on how fast they move the less demanded models. That seems to be the common perception among dealers, reviewers and enthusiasts in overseas watch forums.
Locally, the bracelet white is selling around a 40% premium, and 25% to 30% for the black in grey markets. But the white chrono would be wasted if flipped for profit as it’s such an amazing watch to own and wear. Keep it!
Post by: 2ndOpinion on May 22, 2021, 09:03:33 AM
Very, very cool review of the Chrono, with video shot in Venice!
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Post by: dpkong on May 23, 2021, 10:00:04 AM
Didn't say anything about commonality with the 6263 to the extent it’s a mirror image, or a pretender.
I said it “takes after” the 6263, the common perception of watch reviewers and enthusiasts in the major watch forums. That’s why white is in demand.
On its own, it’s a great wearing and looking watch for just RM20k, an amazing price point and value for money.
And no, I don’t feel like Paul Newnan wearing it, but my Paul Newman is much safer in the safe.
The BB58 Blue was hype and hyperbole, but lived up to them. The Chrono was sprung on the market without any promo blitz like the BB58 Blue, but the watch community was instantly drawn to it for the above reasons, fueling a strong demand.
In short, the Chrono is a cheap watch relative to Rolex but punches the weight of Rolex.
You look at a watch and you make your own decisions. Do you think it takes after the 6263 as well? Or just because a bunch of watch reviewers and enthusiasts say it "takes after the 6263" shapes your views as well?
White is in demand because clueless FOMO buyers and flippers want to cash in on "expert" comments. Grey dealers and flippers actively follow all the "experts" to see what the next hot model is.
It's not a great looking watch at all. The hour markers are faded against the white dial. It should have had black surrounds and the chrono without an hour totaliser seems incomplete. I'd say it's a fair looking watch and for this model, the black is nicer than the white. It's a buy at about 15k, not more.
I passed on this at retail because I don't agree what the "experts" say. Same for the Zenith Chronomaster.
Nice little trick dropping a hint that you own the original Paul Newman... does that make you an "expert" as well?
:Laughing_on_floor:
:Cheers:
Post by: 2ndOpinion on May 23, 2021, 10:30:58 AM
Easy tiger. Your messy rant can lead to some nasty exchanges, especially when it turns ad hominem. Cease and desist. Mutual respect for differences in opinion is the way to go.
Post by: W3ll on May 23, 2021, 01:37:40 PM
It is a nice watch for me personally, both black & white has its own beauty. I would prefer the white as I really like the panda combination. Visibility is not an issue at all for the white dial till I have seen it in real a few times. What could be perfect is to have shorter lug to lug and make it thinner.
Post by: dpkong on May 25, 2021, 06:53:48 PM
Easy tiger. Your messy rant can lead to some nasty exchanges, especially when it turns ad hominem. Cease and desist. Mutual respect for differences in opinion is the way to go.
Not taking a swipe at you directly at all but it does look like I might have irked an investor... apologies are in order for that
Post by: G.MAC on May 25, 2021, 08:12:24 PM
Post by: dpkong on May 25, 2021, 08:17:28 PM
Waiting list may be long now; but my experience with the brand is just to wait. Agree with bro Strinq and that this is starting to be a common feature every year but soon stocks will be available in the AD. It was the same with the Black Bay GMT, then the Gilt and blue 58. So keep calm and wait for the call. Like bro pleasuresaurus mentioned as well, the next best Tudor may just be around the corner. Cheers.
This is not what investors like to hear especially after they've put in the investment. Tudor has not been able to create a Daytona model yet. They seem to be stuck with trying to keep to origins and experimenting with new looks/materials.
It's a solid tool watch for now and not an investment piece that people are trying to hype it to be seeing it's tight link to Rolex.
Post by: Gentlemen101 on May 26, 2021, 08:54:09 AM
Not sure if sustainable , targeting for group that cannot afford Rollies ...
Post by: bulletnos on May 26, 2021, 10:40:06 AM
Unless there is global demand and a trend to drive this, I doubt the local market alone can drive these prices up. But I stand corrected la...since there are a lot of speculators too waiting to park their investments in watches for a hopeful bigger yield - not wrong in itself. I for one am happy some of my pieces have appreciated, but at the same time disheartened because I can’t get those I actually want at retail for such brands (Rolex, AP RO, Etc).
Anyway, buy what we are willing to use, and not just as a safe-queen - is my mantra. (This topic seems to be recurring in many threads like a broken record lol)
Cheers
Post by: W3ll on May 26, 2021, 02:51:12 PM
Post by: 2ndOpinion on June 01, 2021, 07:39:09 PM
.....whoa...
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Post by: 2ndOpinion on June 01, 2021, 09:22:28 PM
A reflection kind of commentary on the Chrono, and what he thinks its potential could be. Another very cool video shot in classy Venice.
Terrific pics of the Chrono from 20.42 min, if you want to skip his very interesting thoughts on the watch and the Daytona. Opera in the background is beautiful.
Post by: Mike9191 on June 04, 2021, 05:59:06 PM
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Post by: dpkong on June 05, 2021, 01:10:47 PM
I think have to line up to buy now
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so the hype worked on you then...
the popularity of the Daytona has got everyone trying to find the slightest similarity in another watch, whether it's the colour scheme or shape or bracelet design and try to hype that as the next high demand piece..
First it was the Zenith Chronomaster Sport where every watch review site touted it as the Daytona lookalike and it was on waitlist... and then Tudor released this and now no one talks about the Zenith anymore.
Tudor did this before with the Tiger and big block and those were all really cheap even when the Daytona were still hard to get..
Post by: BOBOWONDERLAND on June 07, 2021, 10:16:21 AM
Good price to get an award winning B01 in-house movement
The brand which likely to increase its value in future
The design, panda model and reverse panda model which looks really stunning on ur hand
Post by: Mike1660 on June 25, 2021, 12:27:49 PM
Post by: thun_z on July 22, 2021, 03:08:23 PM
I have surveyed around, a worn Chrono Panda dial is going at RM 22k, WORN ya!
A brand new with stickers so far the highest is going for RM25.8k
It's a mad watch world now.
Post by: G.MAC on July 27, 2021, 04:56:32 PM
Post by: dpkong on July 28, 2021, 03:41:21 PM
Having just collected one in the panda configuration, my only comment is that pictures do not do the watch justice. I was not attracted to this watch when i saw pictures of it. When I saw it in the flesh, I knew I had to have it. Was the dial hard to read? Surprisingly, no. The lack of contrast seen in the pictures is not a problem in the flesh. Is it like the Rolex Daytona Panda? No. As an owner of both, the Rolex is a different watch altogether. But is it "the best Tudor ever"? For now, it definitely is. Should you pay any premium for it? That is entirely up to you. Just my 2 cents :Cheers:
Coming from you, this suddenly makes the watch interesting..
Surely would like to see it before deciding.
Post by: hanchengk on July 31, 2021, 04:48:59 PM
Having just collected one in the panda configuration, my only comment is that pictures do not do the watch justice. I was not attracted to this watch when i saw pictures of it. When I saw it in the flesh, I knew I had to have it. Was the dial hard to read? Surprisingly, no. The lack of contrast seen in the pictures is not a problem in the flesh. Is it like the Rolex Daytona Panda? No. As an owner of both, the Rolex is a different watch altogether. But is it "the best Tudor ever"? For now, it definitely is. Should you pay any premium for it? That is entirely up to you. Just my 2 cents :Cheers:
Hope to view 1 in person before could decide buying or not, but with the situation and queuing process. I doubt any1 could.
Post by: BOBOWONDERLAND on July 31, 2021, 05:04:36 PM
Just drop by to any boutique, I do believe they have a few for “exhibition unit” available for viewingHaving just collected one in the panda configuration, my only comment is that pictures do not do the watch justice. I was not attracted to this watch when i saw pictures of it. When I saw it in the flesh, I knew I had to have it. Was the dial hard to read? Surprisingly, no. The lack of contrast seen in the pictures is not a problem in the flesh. Is it like the Rolex Daytona Panda? No. As an owner of both, the Rolex is a different watch altogether. But is it "the best Tudor ever"? For now, it definitely is. Should you pay any premium for it? That is entirely up to you. Just my 2 cents :Cheers:
Hope to view 1 in person before could decide buying or not, but with the situation and queuing process. I doubt any1 could.
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Post by: W3ll on August 03, 2021, 12:48:47 PM
Having just collected one in the panda configuration, my only comment is that pictures do not do the watch justice. I was not attracted to this watch when i saw pictures of it. When I saw it in the flesh, I knew I had to have it. Was the dial hard to read? Surprisingly, no. The lack of contrast seen in the pictures is not a problem in the flesh. Is it like the Rolex Daytona Panda? No. As an owner of both, the Rolex is a different watch altogether. But is it "the best Tudor ever"? For now, it definitely is. Should you pay any premium for it? That is entirely up to you. Just my 2 cents :Cheers:
Congrats on your new purchase! just curious you bought it from Malaysia?
I totally agree, a lot of fuss many people make about the watch is not true, the best is just go and see the watch yourself and you know something about the watch just captivates you, many was complaining it being too big and too thick, but when i tried it on, there is no issue at all.