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Title: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 07, 2021, 06:22:44 PM
So chaps, any interesting new watches caught ur interest from today's releases? I mean aside from the new rolex that looks like the old rolex  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: rnsm1979 on April 07, 2021, 07:16:20 PM
no difference also
 the EXP II, visually i would say nothing change
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on April 07, 2021, 07:25:08 PM
The new 226570...They selit a crown between “Swiss” and “Made” ma...big difference ....lol

On a serious note...Not confirmed, but seems the lugs are slimmer too...

New movement 3285 like the new gmt master 2


But the new half gold explorer 1...just doesn’t sing to me.
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: rnsm1979 on April 07, 2021, 07:27:15 PM
The new 226570...They selit a crown between “Swiss” and “Made” ma...big difference ....lol

On a serious note...Not confirmed, but seems the lugs are slimmer too...

New movement 3285 like the new gmt master 2


But the new half gold explorer 1...just doesn’t sing to me.

yeah, size wise it is still 42 but the lugs seems slimmer now
so much speculation on the ceramic bezel bla bla bla, but at the end..........
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on April 07, 2021, 08:08:17 PM
Yea...ceramic bezel I think while many were excited for it, deep down inside many still prefer the stainless steel one...so probably smarter choice I guess...

But on the other brands, I can only ogle at the Jaeger Reverso...that movement and case is amazing...

Mont Blanc has that “peek a boo” feature...

IWC decides to shrink the Big Pilot to Medium Pilot...

And that Nomos is quite handsome looking too...

 https://www.hodinkee.com/search/tag/watches-and-wonders-2021?q= (https://www.hodinkee.com/search/tag/watches-and-wonders-2021?q=)
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: apache0909 on April 07, 2021, 08:10:18 PM
What do you guys think about the two tone Explorer I?
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on April 07, 2021, 08:11:05 PM
What do you guys think about the two tone Explorer I?

Honestly, not for me. Looks dysfunctional... but that’s just me
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 07, 2021, 08:14:01 PM
I have to say for me personally, its the other brands that r working wonders. Tudor alone already quite interesting, with the see thru case back making a first appearance.

Really tho, that JLC Reverso Hybris Mechanica is just wow...They actually squeezed in the moonphase movements into the caseback, of all things. 15mm form thickness n the cram in every damned thing but the kitchen sink. Calendar, moonphase, minute repeater, tourbillion...amazing la
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 07, 2021, 08:15:49 PM
What do you guys think about the two tone Explorer I?

Honestly, not for me. Looks dysfunctional... but that’s just me

I would agree with this assessment....it somehow takes away from the watch as an adventure/outdoor piece, turning it into one of those Datejusts we see languishing in the Rolex ADs windows (which says a lot).
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: G.MAC on April 07, 2021, 09:07:45 PM
The king from Watches & Wonders 2021 and hottest watch on the planet has got to be the green Patek 5711/1A-014. Then again, same story. It would be unobtainable. Next best thing for me is the Tudor Black Bay Chrono Panda.
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: dpkong on April 07, 2021, 10:17:58 PM
What do you guys think about the two tone Explorer I?

there are plenty of choices at 36mm for two tone... but sure enough someone will find a reason to start the rush.
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: dpkong on April 07, 2021, 10:19:31 PM
What do you guys think about the two tone Explorer I?

Honestly, not for me. Looks dysfunctional... but that’s just me

I would agree with this assessment....it somehow takes away from the watch as an adventure/outdoor piece, turning it into one of those Datejusts we see languishing in the Rolex ADs windows (which says a lot).

to be honest, it's not too surprising after they did it to the Sea Dweller..
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 07, 2021, 10:36:57 PM
Ya la kan...I was actually quite enthused by the Moser Mega Cool though - the teal fumé dial and nearly invisible name writnin lacquer is quite fetching.

 Is it just me or is this the year of green?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: r3kahsttub on April 08, 2021, 07:24:18 AM
Before 7th April; the rumours were:

1) Pepsi discontinued
2) Batgirl discontinued
3) GMT discontinued (!!!!)
4) Daytona discontinued
5) Explorer 2 discontinued and/or replacement model

Prices shot up. And finally, what was the result?

1) GMT available in both jubilee and oyster bracelet options
2) Daytona has new meteorite dial option
3) Explorer 2 updated with new movement, slimmer lugs, new clasp
4) Explorer 1 went down to 36mm, now also available in two-tone
5) Datejust gets several new textured dials

What hasn't changed? Your chance of getting one.
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on April 08, 2021, 08:31:49 AM
Btw I just noticed another change to the Explorer II...the "Floating Hands" on the black dial version is now fully chromed, no longer with the black painted portion towards the middle of the dial - same applies to the orange GMT hand which is now fully orange in the newest form.

New 226570
(https://content.rolex.com/dam/model-page/gallery/m226570-0002/model-page-explorer-ii_m226570-0002_2101uf_001_medium_4.jpg?imwidth=400)

vs

Previous 216570
(https://s.yimg.com/aah/movadobaby/rolex-explorer-ii-216570-179.jpg)

possibly another hype for the discontinued version? Is it me, or are Rolex collectors becoming like Paneristi's a couple of years ago...where there was a craze for just simple visual differences, and people pay thousands extra just to see the "PIG" logo or engraving...that led to Panerai creating more remake of older models, different aesthetics, and value drop...

anyway, we can only hope for Rolex to become more accessible...

Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 08, 2021, 09:32:37 AM
Man, this thing is just mesmerizing, I can imagine getting squinty eyed sitting with a loupe and staring at this for hours.

(https://i.ibb.co/Lp3kS6P/JLC-REVERSO-HYBRIS-MECHANICA-CALIBRE-185-QUADRIPTYQUE-HD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YjxR28W)

(https://i.ibb.co/xLPRq1G/20210525-Pack-Shot-Front-Openb-Black.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pwG9jfZ)
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on April 08, 2021, 12:39:44 PM
Man, this thing is just mesmerizing, I can imagine getting squinty eyed sitting with a loupe and staring at this for hours.

(https://i.ibb.co/Lp3kS6P/JLC-REVERSO-HYBRIS-MECHANICA-CALIBRE-185-QUADRIPTYQUE-HD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YjxR28W)

(https://i.ibb.co/xLPRq1G/20210525-Pack-Shot-Front-Openb-Black.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pwG9jfZ)

Amen! This is a thing of beauty...can get lost in it like an art masterpiece...
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 08, 2021, 03:42:01 PM
I wonder if there's a video explaining how this thing works, how do they get the mechanical parts on the cradle to run? Power la this thing, apparently it even comes with a correction box that allows us to update the watch straight to the present day if it has been left to run out of power. Neatly settles the problem tediously setting up a perpetual calendar every time.
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: Wongkl on April 08, 2021, 08:20:44 PM
Before 7th April; the rumours were:

1) Pepsi discontinued
2) Batgirl discontinued
3) GMT discontinued (!!!!)
4) Daytona discontinued
5) Explorer 2 discontinued and/or replacement model

Prices shot up. And finally, what was the result?

1) GMT available in both jubilee and oyster bracelet options
2) Daytona has new meteorite dial option
3) Explorer 2 updated with new movement, slimmer lugs, new clasp
4) Explorer 1 went down to 36mm, now also available in two-tone
5) Datejust gets several new textured dials

What hasn't changed? Your chance of getting one.
Rumours is for the runner to fry up the price

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Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on April 09, 2021, 06:41:57 AM
Before 7th April; the rumours were:

1) Pepsi discontinued
2) Batgirl discontinued
3) GMT discontinued (!!!!)
4) Daytona discontinued
5) Explorer 2 discontinued and/or replacement model

Prices shot up. And finally, what was the result?

1) GMT available in both jubilee and oyster bracelet options
2) Daytona has new meteorite dial option
3) Explorer 2 updated with new movement, slimmer lugs, new clasp
4) Explorer 1 went down to 36mm, now also available in two-tone
5) Datejust gets several new textured dials

What hasn't changed? Your chance of getting one.
Rumours is for the runner to fry up the price

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 :Laughing_on_floor:

all also will goreng...just a matter of how much  :HammerHead:
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 09, 2021, 07:13:23 AM
There's a whole bunch of noteworthy watches beyond that crown brand that came out this time round. Enough that I think its possible to take a serious break from them. Like this Moser Mega Cool (what a rubbish name for such a nice work of art haha).

(https://i.ibb.co/xMzCnF2/H-moser-Cie-Pioneer-Centre-Seconds-Mega-Cool-1-768x512.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nDQgXPw)

Along the lines of relative affordability and serious badassery there's the new Oris AquisPro running that monster cal.400 with 10 days power reserve n 10 years service interval

(https://i.ibb.co/8s63Zg3/Oris-Aquis-Pro-Date-Calibre-400-01-400-7767-7754-07-4-26-64-BTEB-5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wgMHmhH)
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on April 09, 2021, 08:46:56 AM
Wah that Oris is nice...looks like emperor tuna wei...

And Oris also came out with a rainbow bronze range...

the Marble Moon piece from Arnold & Son is also quite captivating...

(https://i2.wp.com/storage.googleapis.com/stateless-watchilove-com/2021/04/9fb64fd3-as-luna-magna_up-1024x1024.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&ssl=1)

Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 09, 2021, 10:01:52 AM
That Luna Magna is beautiful....and the case back!  :shocked1:

(https://i.ibb.co/R48Y4Vd/Arnold-and-Son-Luna-Magna-hands-on-6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mFpbFMg)
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: WestFly on April 09, 2021, 05:40:04 PM
Thr Best look oyster pepsi has arrive. Go grab one
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: WestFly on April 10, 2021, 02:57:08 PM
Before 7th April; the rumours were:

1) Pepsi discontinued
2) Batgirl discontinued
3) GMT discontinued (!!!!)
4) Daytona discontinued
5) Explorer 2 discontinued and/or replacement model

Prices shot up. And finally, what was the result?

1) GMT available in both jubilee and oyster bracelet options
2) Daytona has new meteorite dial option
3) Explorer 2 updated with new movement, slimmer lugs, new clasp
4) Explorer 1 went down to 36mm, now also available in two-tone
5) Datejust gets several new textured dials

What hasn't changed? Your chance of getting one.

Heard many bought pepsi jubilee due to rumours of stop production. Expected to have price drop due to Pepsi Oyster is far more sport looking as many like it
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on April 12, 2021, 08:33:23 PM
Guess what arrived at a friendly AD today...had to see it in the metal!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/6f9b1ff52cdb142416059b6220b8729e.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/13b364dc77bd9f58fb752c173fcd92aa.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/afafb2158d01240f034d3fedda4b9c37.jpg)


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Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 12, 2021, 10:35:15 PM
Wah, lajuuu! How do u find the new chronos in-person? Can give the 58 a run for the money, or a different experience entirely?
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on April 13, 2021, 11:33:29 AM
My honest take...it would have been better if the case were slimmer, and there is a subdial at 6 oclock like the daytona.

My personal preference is the white face too, given a choice between the two.

It seems the case is slimmer compared to their other chrono range, but still feels thick.

Still prefer BB58 - though different 'category'. But that's just me.
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: Gentlemen101 on April 17, 2021, 07:40:26 AM
This year w&w is about green as all unveiled this colour ..

I think any watches in green will shoot up..
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: uncle_ray on April 17, 2021, 09:12:12 AM
The Breitling B09 Pistachio dial is my pick of the bunch! So damn quirky and somewhat attainable.

The BB58 Chronos are a bit meh next to the new Zenith Sport to be honest, but priced well la. Has the same Breitling movement, but design-wise it's a bit too muted for my liking.

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Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 17, 2021, 11:50:44 AM
I have to say, I myself have kind of overlooked that B09. Is a pretty decent piece la. Looks interesting and flexible  enough to dress up or down and has a 100m WR.
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: dpkong on April 17, 2021, 09:32:37 PM
This year w&w is about green as all unveiled this colour ..

I think any watches in green will shoot up..

The power of viral..
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on May 03, 2021, 07:51:56 PM
More green...the Grail of it! Tried this on today...if only I could keep it!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210503/84c4683b28ef7f879b8888a10196a8ac.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210503/2e25c48067b8b9cfb1cb36ddef3f9bb3.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210503/9093c85fc86c8b397c34ef8814f25df7.jpg)


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Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: pleasuresaurus on May 03, 2021, 10:37:41 PM
Must look nice in the metal I reckon, but most likely a display unit only ka?

On a side note, I've always wondered la kan, if the adage "nice to see, nice to hold, once broken considered sold" holds true, then.....how much they charge for crystal replacements ya?  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on May 04, 2021, 07:47:42 AM
Must look nice in the metal I reckon, but most likely a display unit only ka?

On a side note, I've always wondered la kan, if the adage "nice to see, nice to hold, once broken considered sold" holds true, then.....how much they charge for crystal replacements ya?  :Laughing_on_floor:

Display unit lo...it’s very light by the way...

And if that adage holds true, I don’t mind pulling together RM140k for that watch and trade it for a house! *whoops dropped it* Haha
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on May 04, 2021, 11:52:16 AM
Oh, another piece from W&W...they brought back the hobnail bezel to the Calatrava matched with a textured/brushed dial

Ref 6119G-001

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210504/392b7d010bebcc83a0293691c89b9127.jpg)


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Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: dpkong on May 05, 2021, 07:46:44 PM
Oh, another piece from W&W...they brought back the hobnail bezel to the Calatrava matched with a textured/brushed dial

Ref 6119G-001

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210504/392b7d010bebcc83a0293691c89b9127.jpg)


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now this is nice... with display back and Calatrava clasp?
Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on May 05, 2021, 08:50:07 PM
Oh, another piece from W&W...they brought back the hobnail bezel to the Calatrava matched with a textured/brushed dial

Ref 6119G-001

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210504/392b7d010bebcc83a0293691c89b9127.jpg)


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now this is nice... with display back and Calatrava clasp?
Oh, another piece from W&W...they brought back the hobnail bezel to the Calatrava matched with a textured/brushed dial

Ref 6119G-001



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now this is nice... with display back and Calatrava clasp?


Yup, u can see the twin mainspring barrels through the transparent case back ...comes with the calatrava tang buckle


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Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: dpkong on May 06, 2021, 09:17:54 AM


Yup, u can see the twin mainspring barrels through the transparent case back ...comes with the calatrava tang buckle


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A Calatrava deployant clasp would be sweeter and with an auto-winding movement. Did the salesperson say if these would be a long wait list for this?

Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: uncle_ray on May 06, 2021, 09:23:24 AM
Oh, another piece from W&W...they brought back the hobnail bezel to the Calatrava matched with a textured/brushed dial

Ref 6119G-001

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210504/392b7d010bebcc83a0293691c89b9127.jpg)


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Ah yes, love this new model. Esp the rose gold + white dial version. Would be a great heirloom piece!

Too bad wayyy outta my budget :(

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Title: Re: Watches & Wonders 2021
Post by: bulletnos on May 06, 2021, 05:27:09 PM


Yup, u can see the twin mainspring barrels through the transparent case back ...comes with the calatrava tang buckle


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A Calatrava deployant clasp would be sweeter and with an auto-winding movement. Did the salesperson say if these would be a long wait list for this?


got the call from them today...1st unit just in but I had to pass it on...!