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Title: 14060
Post by: billyhii8505 on October 18, 2017, 04:39:23 PM
Hi All,

Dont know if this has been covered on here but here is some interesting information which could be useful on the much loved iconic Rolex Submariner 14060 & 14060M "None Date"

Make: ROLEX
Model: SUBMARINER
Model: 14060 (M)
Year: 1990 - 2012
Case: 39.5 mm
Dial: BLACK
Movement: 3000/3130
WR: 300m

39.5 mm stainless steel case with polished sides and brushed upper. Rolex Triplock screwed down crown. Water resistant to a depth of 300m (1000ft). Model number located between the lugs at 12 o’clock. Serial number located between the lugs at 6 o’clock. Black dial with unidirectional black aluminium divers bezel. Sapphire crystal. Rolex calibre 3000 automatic movement with 31 jewels. Fully brushed Rolex Oyster bracelet with pressed stainless steel folding clasp and divers extension

In 1998 the 14060 became the 14060M and the movement was upgraded to the Rolex calibre 3130. In 1999 the dial of the 14060M Submariner changed from Tritium to Luminova. In 2007 the 14060M became a certified chronometer and extra text was added to the dial sometimes referred to as COSC, or 4 line, From 2007 the 14060M Submariner was produced with an engraved inner rehault.

BICCHIERINI

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/028457e5930c4951f1f58a15381cc4a8.jpg)

1988 - 1999
Serial E, N, X, C, S, W, T, U
14060
Calibre 3000
Lug Holes
Tritium Dial
Two Line Dial
SWISS-T<25
Flat Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/6ebc38e45df8661229a10acb8f20fb59.jpg)

LUMI DIAL

2000 - 2008
Serial P, K, Y, F, D
14060M
Calibre 3130
Lug Holes
Superluminova Dial
Two Line Dial
SWISS MADE
Slim Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/226884333da32b898b87dcbf6725dab1.jpg)

REHAUT RRR

2008 - 2010
Serial Z, M,V,G, random
14060M
Calibre 3130
Lug Holes
Superluminova Dial
Four Line "Chronometer Certified" Dial
SWISS MADE
Slim Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet
Personalised Rehaut RRR

Other Information

The Triplelock crown is physically larger than the Twinlock, there is also four separate rubber gaskets as apposed to the two in the Twinlock crown, This is the major factor difference in allowing the Triplelock to be water resistant to a deeper depth, The Triplelock crown is identified by three separate dots beneath the Rolex coronet on the winding crown.

Both the Rolex Submariner 14060 to 14060M... 93150 Bracelets do not have SEL "Sold End Links" or solid center links for this matter,

Cheers
Billy


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: r3kahsttub on October 19, 2017, 08:18:30 AM
Good shortcut to a wealth of information about the 14060. Tq for sharing.
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: hazwan on October 19, 2017, 09:49:44 AM
Hi All,

Dont know if this has been covered on here but here is some interesting information which could be useful on the much loved iconic Rolex Submariner 14060 & 14060M "None Date"

Make: ROLEX
Model: SUBMARINER
Model: 14060 (M)
Year: 1990 - 2012
Case: 39.5 mm
Dial: BLACK
Movement: 3000/3130
WR: 300m

39.5 mm stainless steel case with polished sides and brushed upper. Rolex Triplock screwed down crown. Water resistant to a depth of 300m (1000ft). Model number located between the lugs at 12 o’clock. Serial number located between the lugs at 6 o’clock. Black dial with unidirectional black aluminium divers bezel. Sapphire crystal. Rolex calibre 3000 automatic movement with 31 jewels. Fully brushed Rolex Oyster bracelet with pressed stainless steel folding clasp and divers extension

In 1998 the 14060 became the 14060M and the movement was upgraded to the Rolex calibre 3130. In 1999 the dial of the 14060M Submariner changed from Tritium to Luminova. In 2007 the 14060M became a certified chronometer and extra text was added to the dial sometimes referred to as COSC, or 4 line, From 2007 the 14060M Submariner was produced with an engraved inner rehault.

BICCHIERINI

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/028457e5930c4951f1f58a15381cc4a8.jpg)

1988 - 1999
Serial E, N, X, C, S, W, T, U
14060
Calibre 3000
Lug Holes
Tritium Dial
Two Line Dial
SWISS-T<25
Flat Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/6ebc38e45df8661229a10acb8f20fb59.jpg)

LUMI DIAL

2000 - 2008
Serial P, K, Y, F, D
14060M
Calibre 3130
Lug Holes
Superluminova Dial
Two Line Dial
SWISS MADE
Slim Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/226884333da32b898b87dcbf6725dab1.jpg)

REHAUT RRR

2008 - 2010
Serial Z, M,V,G, random
14060M
Calibre 3130
Lug Holes
Superluminova Dial
Four Line "Chronometer Certified" Dial
SWISS MADE
Slim Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet
Personalised Rehaut RRR

Other Information

The Triplelock crown is physically larger than the Twinlock, there is also four separate rubber gaskets as apposed to the two in the Twinlock crown, This is the major factor difference in allowing the Triplelock to be water resistant to a deeper depth, The Triplelock crown is identified by three separate dots beneath the Rolex coronet on the winding crown.

Both the Rolex Submariner 14060 to 14060M... 93150 Bracelets do not have SEL "Sold End Links" or solid center links for this matter,

Cheers
Billy


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Very good information Billy. Rolex Submariner keeps on evolving through time.


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: r3kahsttub on October 19, 2017, 12:09:24 PM
Some case size comparison between 14060 and 114060:

(https://i.imgur.com/vimvrpIh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/L4r6DQph.jpg)
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: psychokandy on October 19, 2017, 04:02:04 PM
Thanks for putting up all the information in a page. Excellent.


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: ck77 on October 19, 2017, 04:16:04 PM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: billyhii8505 on October 20, 2017, 08:02:12 PM
Some case size comparison between 14060 and 114060:

(https://i.imgur.com/vimvrpIh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/L4r6DQph.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171020/cea03c42b5d053d82b6eb2f200ca7281.jpg)


Nice catch bro~ thanks for sharing your photos


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: billyhii8505 on October 20, 2017, 08:04:49 PM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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Yes bro, I'm not sure about sub date but flat 4 for sub no date apply till late 90's for my knowledge


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: billyhii8505 on October 20, 2017, 08:06:10 PM
Thanks for putting up all the information in a page. Excellent.


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Thanks for spending time to read my post 


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: billyhii8505 on October 20, 2017, 08:06:59 PM
Good shortcut to a wealth of information about the 14060. Tq for sharing.


Thanks for reading my post bro, hope you all like it


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: billyhii8505 on October 20, 2017, 08:10:03 PM
Hi All,

Dont know if this has been covered on here but here is some interesting information which could be useful on the much loved iconic Rolex Submariner 14060 & 14060M "None Date"

Make: ROLEX
Model: SUBMARINER
Model: 14060 (M)
Year: 1990 - 2012
Case: 39.5 mm
Dial: BLACK
Movement: 3000/3130
WR: 300m

39.5 mm stainless steel case with polished sides and brushed upper. Rolex Triplock screwed down crown. Water resistant to a depth of 300m (1000ft). Model number located between the lugs at 12 o’clock. Serial number located between the lugs at 6 o’clock. Black dial with unidirectional black aluminium divers bezel. Sapphire crystal. Rolex calibre 3000 automatic movement with 31 jewels. Fully brushed Rolex Oyster bracelet with pressed stainless steel folding clasp and divers extension

In 1998 the 14060 became the 14060M and the movement was upgraded to the Rolex calibre 3130. In 1999 the dial of the 14060M Submariner changed from Tritium to Luminova. In 2007 the 14060M became a certified chronometer and extra text was added to the dial sometimes referred to as COSC, or 4 line, From 2007 the 14060M Submariner was produced with an engraved inner rehault.

BICCHIERINI

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/028457e5930c4951f1f58a15381cc4a8.jpg)

1988 - 1999
Serial E, N, X, C, S, W, T, U
14060
Calibre 3000
Lug Holes
Tritium Dial
Two Line Dial
SWISS-T<25
Flat Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/6ebc38e45df8661229a10acb8f20fb59.jpg)

LUMI DIAL

2000 - 2008
Serial P, K, Y, F, D
14060M
Calibre 3130
Lug Holes
Superluminova Dial
Two Line Dial
SWISS MADE
Slim Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/226884333da32b898b87dcbf6725dab1.jpg)

REHAUT RRR

2008 - 2010
Serial Z, M,V,G, random
14060M
Calibre 3130
Lug Holes
Superluminova Dial
Four Line "Chronometer Certified" Dial
SWISS MADE
Slim Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet
Personalised Rehaut RRR

Other Information

The Triplelock crown is physically larger than the Twinlock, there is also four separate rubber gaskets as apposed to the two in the Twinlock crown, This is the major factor difference in allowing the Triplelock to be water resistant to a deeper depth, The Triplelock crown is identified by three separate dots beneath the Rolex coronet on the winding crown.

Both the Rolex Submariner 14060 to 14060M... 93150 Bracelets do not have SEL "Sold End Links" or solid center links for this matter,

Cheers
Billy


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Very good information Billy. Rolex Submariner keeps on evolving through time.


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Ya bro, I'm still a beginner in rolex~ hope to know more about this beautiful model


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: psychokandy on October 20, 2017, 08:28:14 PM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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That's true. Its only Submariner or Submariner Date.
I don't know why most people call it Submariner No Date here in ASIA. Even at the AD. I once asked for a Submariner. The sales assistant told me "No stock". Then I reinstate that i wanted Submariner NO DATE. Then she went to check at the back and bring for me.
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: yehlai on October 21, 2017, 11:27:02 AM
14060 and 14060M Green lume
114060 blue lume

14060M late batch have parachrome blue

I miss the green organic-ish

Always prefer Submariner over the Submariner date
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: squasub on October 21, 2017, 12:32:15 PM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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That's true. Its only Submariner or Submariner Date.
I don't know why most people call it Submariner No Date here in ASIA. Even at the AD. I once asked for a Submariner. The sales assistant told me "No stock". Then I reinstate that i wanted Submariner NO DATE. Then she went to check at the back and bring for me.

They need to learn more ;D (joking). I think maybe for them submariner always with date, they dont know that original sub was without the date function.
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: hazwan on October 22, 2017, 10:27:18 AM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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That's true. Its only Submariner or Submariner Date.
I don't know why most people call it Submariner No Date here in ASIA. Even at the AD. I once asked for a Submariner. The sales assistant told me "No stock". Then I reinstate that i wanted Submariner NO DATE. Then she went to check at the back and bring for me.

They need to learn more ;D (joking). I think maybe for them submariner always with date, they dont know that original sub was without the date function.
Haha. Couldn’t agree more. The sales person should revisit Rolex Sub timeline and understand how the model evolved through time


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: psychokandy on October 22, 2017, 10:41:07 AM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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That's true. Its only Submariner or Submariner Date.
I don't know why most people call it Submariner No Date here in ASIA. Even at the AD. I once asked for a Submariner. The sales assistant told me "No stock". Then I reinstate that i wanted Submariner NO DATE. Then she went to check at the back and bring for me.

They need to learn more ;D (joking). I think maybe for them submariner always with date, they dont know that original sub was without the date function.
Haha. Couldn’t agree more. The sales person should revisit Rolex Sub timeline and understand how the model evolved through time


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i am a purist.  :HammerHead: if i wanted to get a black bezel Submariner, it has to be without date. If I wanted a Submariner Date, then i will get the 2-tone LB or the SS LV. that's just me.  :P
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: hazwan on October 22, 2017, 02:11:50 PM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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That's true. Its only Submariner or Submariner Date.
I don't know why most people call it Submariner No Date here in ASIA. Even at the AD. I once asked for a Submariner. The sales assistant told me "No stock". Then I reinstate that i wanted Submariner NO DATE. Then she went to check at the back and bring for me.

They need to learn more ;D (joking). I think maybe for them submariner always with date, they dont know that original sub was without the date function.
Haha. Couldn’t agree more. The sales person should revisit Rolex Sub timeline and understand how the model evolved through time


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i am a purist.  :HammerHead: if i wanted to get a black bezel Submariner, it has to be without date. If I wanted a Submariner Date, then i will get the 2-tone LB or the SS LV. that's just me.  :P
Classic model is the way to go !


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: billyhii8505 on October 22, 2017, 08:57:50 PM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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That's true. Its only Submariner or Submariner Date.
I don't know why most people call it Submariner No Date here in ASIA. Even at the AD. I once asked for a Submariner. The sales assistant told me "No stock". Then I reinstate that i wanted Submariner NO DATE. Then she went to check at the back and bring for me.

They need to learn more ;D (joking). I think maybe for them submariner always with date, they dont know that original sub was without the date function.
Haha. Couldn’t agree more. The sales person should revisit Rolex Sub timeline and understand how the model evolved through time


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i am a purist.  :HammerHead: if i wanted to get a black bezel Submariner, it has to be without date. If I wanted a Submariner Date, then i will get the 2-tone LB or the SS LV. that's just me.  :P


Agree with you sir, I won't go for sub date in black too, only LB or LV (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171022/a0c3b171e80c92b211d04acf8712e47f.jpg)


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: billyhii8505 on October 22, 2017, 08:59:00 PM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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That's true. Its only Submariner or Submariner Date.
I don't know why most people call it Submariner No Date here in ASIA. Even at the AD. I once asked for a Submariner. The sales assistant told me "No stock". Then I reinstate that i wanted Submariner NO DATE. Then she went to check at the back and bring for me.

They need to learn more ;D (joking). I think maybe for them submariner always with date, they dont know that original sub was without the date function.
Haha. Couldn’t agree more. The sales person should revisit Rolex Sub timeline and understand how the model evolved through time


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i am a purist.  :HammerHead: if i wanted to get a black bezel Submariner, it has to be without date. If I wanted a Submariner Date, then i will get the 2-tone LB or the SS LV. that's just me.  :P
Classic model is the way to go !


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Classic always rocks (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171022/da370a72e8fb5f5944141099f49656fa.jpg)


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: billyhii8505 on October 22, 2017, 08:59:49 PM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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That's true. Its only Submariner or Submariner Date.
I don't know why most people call it Submariner No Date here in ASIA. Even at the AD. I once asked for a Submariner. The sales assistant told me "No stock". Then I reinstate that i wanted Submariner NO DATE. Then she went to check at the back and bring for me.

They need to learn more ;D (joking). I think maybe for them submariner always with date, they dont know that original sub was without the date function.
Haha. Couldn’t agree more. The sales person should revisit Rolex Sub timeline and understand how the model evolved through time


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We have been educated wrongly by those sales person in Asia


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: billyhii8505 on October 22, 2017, 09:01:06 PM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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That's true. Its only Submariner or Submariner Date.
I don't know why most people call it Submariner No Date here in ASIA. Even at the AD. I once asked for a Submariner. The sales assistant told me "No stock". Then I reinstate that i wanted Submariner NO DATE. Then she went to check at the back and bring for me.

They need to learn more ;D (joking). I think maybe for them submariner always with date, they dont know that original sub was without the date function.


I learn from mistake as the sales person here educated us in this way


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: psychokandy on October 22, 2017, 09:17:40 PM
Excellent Sub collection there mate  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: billyhii8505 on October 23, 2017, 10:19:03 AM
Excellent Sub collection there mate  :thumbsup:

Thanks mate


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: hazwan on October 23, 2017, 12:39:11 PM
Great write up.
Just little comment, that’s no sub none date, but sub and sub date.
Flat four bezel only on certain serial i think


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That's true. Its only Submariner or Submariner Date.
I don't know why most people call it Submariner No Date here in ASIA. Even at the AD. I once asked for a Submariner. The sales assistant told me "No stock". Then I reinstate that i wanted Submariner NO DATE. Then she went to check at the back and bring for me.

They need to learn more ;D (joking). I think maybe for them submariner always with date, they dont know that original sub was without the date function.
Haha. Couldn’t agree more. The sales person should revisit Rolex Sub timeline and understand how the model evolved through time


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We have been educated wrongly by those sales person in Asia


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From my logic and sales perspective probably it’s easier to recognize the model according to date and no date tagline. Hence less communication required between the customer and the sales person.

However, people who passionate about the watch will definitely appreciate the history


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Title: Re: 14060
Post by: CKL1213 on October 24, 2017, 09:16:09 AM
In Rolex terms:

Submariner Oyster Perpetual
Submariner Oyster Perpetual Date

In Malaysia terms:

Sub
no date Sub
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: gman5515 on October 24, 2017, 01:17:39 PM
Hi All,

Dont know if this has been covered on here but here is some interesting information which could be useful on the much loved iconic Rolex Submariner 14060 & 14060M "None Date"

Make: ROLEX
Model: SUBMARINER
Model: 14060 (M)
Year: 1990 - 2012
Case: 39.5 mm
Dial: BLACK
Movement: 3000/3130
WR: 300m

39.5 mm stainless steel case with polished sides and brushed upper. Rolex Triplock screwed down crown. Water resistant to a depth of 300m (1000ft). Model number located between the lugs at 12 o’clock. Serial number located between the lugs at 6 o’clock. Black dial with unidirectional black aluminium divers bezel. Sapphire crystal. Rolex calibre 3000 automatic movement with 31 jewels. Fully brushed Rolex Oyster bracelet with pressed stainless steel folding clasp and divers extension

In 1998 the 14060 became the 14060M and the movement was upgraded to the Rolex calibre 3130. In 1999 the dial of the 14060M Submariner changed from Tritium to Luminova. In 2007 the 14060M became a certified chronometer and extra text was added to the dial sometimes referred to as COSC, or 4 line, From 2007 the 14060M Submariner was produced with an engraved inner rehault.

BICCHIERINI

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/028457e5930c4951f1f58a15381cc4a8.jpg)

1988 - 1999
Serial E, N, X, C, S, W, T, U
14060
Calibre 3000
Lug Holes
Tritium Dial
Two Line Dial
SWISS-T<25
Flat Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/6ebc38e45df8661229a10acb8f20fb59.jpg)

LUMI DIAL

2000 - 2008
Serial P, K, Y, F, D
14060M
Calibre 3130
Lug Holes
Superluminova Dial
Two Line Dial
SWISS MADE
Slim Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/226884333da32b898b87dcbf6725dab1.jpg)

REHAUT RRR

2008 - 2010
Serial Z, M,V,G, random
14060M
Calibre 3130
Lug Holes
Superluminova Dial
Four Line "Chronometer Certified" Dial
SWISS MADE
Slim Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet
Personalised Rehaut RRR

Other Information

The Triplelock crown is physically larger than the Twinlock, there is also four separate rubber gaskets as apposed to the two in the Twinlock crown, This is the major factor difference in allowing the Triplelock to be water resistant to a deeper depth, The Triplelock crown is identified by three separate dots beneath the Rolex coronet on the winding crown.

Both the Rolex Submariner 14060 to 14060M... 93150 Bracelets do not have SEL "Sold End Links" or solid center links for this matter,

Cheers
Billy


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Great Share! thanks for the info!
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: reventon on November 01, 2017, 02:34:56 AM
What is the rehaut rrr mean ? I saw a thread selling mention its rare ? I have one 16610 M serial with rolex word engraved in the ring. Any difference from earlier sub ?
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: gman5515 on November 01, 2017, 10:03:09 AM
What is the rehaut rrr mean ? I saw a thread selling mention its rare ? I have one 16610 M serial with rolex word engraved in the ring. Any difference from earlier sub ?

Rehaut rrr is referring to the engraving on the inner case, lined up to the 60 minute markers on the dial..  ROLEXROLEXROLEX all around, 12 o clock should have the coronet(Rolex crown),and serial number between circa 26 - 34 minute markers... roughly.. rehaut rrr engraving started circa M series onwards.. which was circa 2007 onwards..you can refer to rolex serial numbers here:

http://sweepinghand.co.uk/useful-info/rolex-serial-numbers/

Hope this helps
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: reventon on November 01, 2017, 12:13:28 PM
What is the rehaut rrr mean ? I saw a thread selling mention its rare ? I have one 16610 M serial with rolex word engraved in the ring. Any difference from earlier sub ?

Rehaut rrr is referring to the engraving on the inner case, lined up to the 60 minute markers on the dial..  ROLEXROLEXROLEX all around, 12 o clock should have the coronet(Rolex crown),and serial number between circa 26 - 34 minute markers... roughly.. rehaut rrr engraving started circa M series onwards.. which was circa 2007 onwards..you can refer to rolex serial numbers here:

http://sweepinghand.co.uk/useful-info/rolex-serial-numbers/

Hope this helps

Yeah exactly mine 16610 . Any specialty for this batch?
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: gman5515 on November 01, 2017, 12:36:04 PM

Yeah exactly mine 16610 . Any specialty for this batch?

Which year or series is your 16610? for the 14060 and 16610, there were years which did not have the rehaut engraving, and only from M series onwards, did they start to have the rehaut engraving. 16610 was produced between circa 1987 to 2010.. that's a long time, and only from circa 2007 onwards did the 16610 have engraving. So it all depends on which year your 16610 is from.
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: reventon on November 01, 2017, 12:57:21 PM

Yeah exactly mine 16610 . Any specialty for this batch?

Which year or series is your 16610? for the 14060 and 16610, there were years which did not have the rehaut engraving, and only from M series onwards, did they start to have the rehaut engraving. 16610 was produced between circa 1987 to 2010.. that's a long time, and only from circa 2007 onwards did the 16610 have engraving. So it all depends on which year your 16610 is from.

Mine is M Series year 2009. Yes it does hv the rolex exgraved in the inner ring.
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: gman5515 on November 01, 2017, 01:00:05 PM

Yeah exactly mine 16610 . Any specialty for this batch?

Which year or series is your 16610? for the 14060 and 16610, there were years which did not have the rehaut engraving, and only from M series onwards, did they start to have the rehaut engraving. 16610 was produced between circa 1987 to 2010.. that's a long time, and only from circa 2007 onwards did the 16610 have engraving. So it all depends on which year your 16610 is from.

Mine is M Series year 2009. Yes it does hv the rolex exgraved in the inner ring.

Ah, ok :)  :thumbsup:What did you mean by specialty? care to elaborate?
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: reventon on November 01, 2017, 01:48:32 PM

Yeah exactly mine 16610 . Any specialty for this batch?

Which year or series is your 16610? for the 14060 and 16610, there were years which did not have the rehaut engraving, and only from M series onwards, did they start to have the rehaut engraving. 16610 was produced between circa 1987 to 2010.. that's a long time, and only from circa 2007 onwards did the 16610 have engraving. So it all depends on which year your 16610 is from.

Mine is M Series year 2009. Yes it does hv the rolex exgraved in the inner ring.

Ah, ok :)  :thumbsup:What did you mean by specialty? care to elaborate?

Nop i am asking coz i saw some thread mention about its “ rare “ . I dont know whats rare about this so asking in this thread instead . Hope to learn something
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: gman5515 on November 01, 2017, 02:20:11 PM

Yeah exactly mine 16610 . Any specialty for this batch?

Which year or series is your 16610? for the 14060 and 16610, there were years which did not have the rehaut engraving, and only from M series onwards, did they start to have the rehaut engraving. 16610 was produced between circa 1987 to 2010.. that's a long time, and only from circa 2007 onwards did the 16610 have engraving. So it all depends on which year your 16610 is from.

Mine is M Series year 2009. Yes it does hv the rolex exgraved in the inner ring.

Ah, ok :)  :thumbsup:What did you mean by specialty? care to elaborate?

Nop i am asking coz i saw some thread mention about its “ rare “ . I dont know whats rare about this so asking in this thread instead . Hope to learn something

The 16610 was in production for a long time, but for those with rehaut engraving, i would not really consider it 'rare', but its certainly rarer than the those from earlier series. I feel rehaut engraving does provide some assurance of it being genuine, and off the cuff, I would say it sells easier. I'm not sure how to describe it bro, but I guess having the rehaut engraving provides layman a little bit more assurance its genuine, though some replicas and fake watches do have, but its usually more difficult to copy and perfect it. So, for sure the 16610 with rehaut engravings would command a higher value than those without. unless u are into tritium dials, but that's another issue and topic altogether.

Hope this helps?

Title: Re: 14060
Post by: reventon on November 02, 2017, 03:03:32 AM

Yeah exactly mine 16610 . Any specialty for this batch?

Which year or series is your 16610? for the 14060 and 16610, there were years which did not have the rehaut engraving, and only from M series onwards, did they start to have the rehaut engraving. 16610 was produced between circa 1987 to 2010.. that's a long time, and only from circa 2007 onwards did the 16610 have engraving. So it all depends on which year your 16610 is from.

Mine is M Series year 2009. Yes it does hv the rolex exgraved in the inner ring.

Ah, ok :)  :thumbsup:What did you mean by specialty? care to elaborate?

Nop i am asking coz i saw some thread mention about its “ rare “ . I dont know whats rare about this so asking in this thread instead . Hope to learn something

The 16610 was in production for a long time, but for those with rehaut engraving, i would not really consider it 'rare', but its certainly rarer than the those from earlier series. I feel rehaut engraving does provide some assurance of it being genuine, and off the cuff, I would say it sells easier. I'm not sure how to describe it bro, but I guess having the rehaut engraving provides layman a little bit more assurance its genuine, though some replicas and fake watches do have, but its usually more difficult to copy and perfect it. So, for sure the 16610 with rehaut engravings would command a higher value than those without. unless u are into tritium dials, but that's another issue and topic altogether.

Hope this helps?


Thats definitely helps alot. Thanks for the detailed info about the rehaut. Even i was wearing one but i do have vey limited knowledge on that. Glad bro you did took some time to explain about this. Forum need guys like you to be enjoyable. Thumbs up
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: gman5515 on November 02, 2017, 10:33:20 AM

Thats definitely helps alot. Thanks for the detailed info about the rehaut. Even i was wearing one but i do have vey limited knowledge on that. Glad bro you did took some time to explain about this. Forum need guys like you to be enjoyable. Thumbs up

that's what a forum is for bro  :Cheers: we all share to the best of our knowledge and though i share what i know, i don't necessarily know everything, and we can all learn from each other! But with everything I post, I gladly stand corrected if anyone has any other more accurate info to share :)

Title: Re: 14060
Post by: jimmyang on November 08, 2017, 07:47:06 AM
Somehow the new case with maxi lugs just doesn't appeal to me.
Title: Re: 14060
Post by: gman5515 on November 08, 2017, 10:20:52 AM
Somehow the new case with maxi lugs just doesn't appeal to me.

it does tend to be kinda "fat", especially when you compare to the previous models like the 14060/16610 subs.. hence, the Submariner Kermit 16610LV with maxi dials but retaining the slimmer case has been so popular and prices have risen tremendously over the last 2 years.