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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: watchpassion on July 10, 2019, 05:55:30 PM
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Is rolex sports fever cooling down? Has the demand peaked? Will the prices of discontinued model like GMTs will continue rise? How about Submariner and Explorer?
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Not seeing the fever to cold off anytime soon when Rolex is still limit it’s production. All come to supply and demand.
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IMO, it is not a case of Rolex limiting production. It is just that more people are buying the watches. Flippers are adding to the demand because there is money to be made. It is a bull market for the brand.
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I don't think Rolex limit its production. It was the extra demand that has been created by flippers , insta and auctions.
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just hope it dies out so i can finally get my sub at retail ::)
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just hope it dies out so i can finally get my sub at retail ::)
sub is iconic diver watch! haha, i hope so too.
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just hope it dies out so i can finally get my sub at retail ::)
sub is iconic diver watch! haha, i hope so too.
now that my budget has been reduced, the fever has automatically been cured as a result ;D
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It's a status symbol. There will always be people willing to pay for the premium.
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I think the price for the sport model is already at it's peak.Saw some shops already can't sell the watches for some time already
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I think the price for the sport model is already at it's peak.Saw some shops already can't sell the watches for some time already
Temporary and it will soar higher. i’ve learnt my mistake. The demands are enormous, the reason why shops can’t sell because most people believe the price may not peak anymore, looking at rolex history track record, it is the Rolex way, Rolex will not produce more watches, but make fewer/maintain to drive up demand even more. They have no shareholders to please. They can do whatever they want.
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But the sports model is tooooooooooooo expensive now.The price is ridiculous compared to RRP :-[
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But the sports model is tooooooooooooo expensive now.The price is ridiculous compared to RRP :-[
better late than never. ;D it's not going to reduce anyway.
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But the sports model is tooooooooooooo expensive now.The price is ridiculous compared to RRP :-[
better late than never. ;D it's not going to reduce anyway.
plenty sources online do say the bubble will burst eventually, but will unlikely burst till below retail. just hoping the speculation turns out to be true :D
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What goes up must come down,,,
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when the price comes down a bit, better grab it. or else it will fly higher later. just my 2 cents
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I can see that most shop have the same stock for quite some time.Maybe it's overpriced now?Will it go down?What do you guys think?
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I can see that most shop have the same stock for quite some time.Maybe it's overpriced now?Will it go down?What do you guys think?
It is coming down, time to collect your batman
But seriously, its right time to collect if u wan a upgrade
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Haha no la bro.Letting go my Datejust for cash now :P
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Haha no la bro.Letting go my Datejust for cash now
is date just price good now?
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Haha no la bro.Letting go my Datejust for cash now
is date just price good now?
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blue dial still hot cake i believe, other colors like silver and black can get discount and ready stock if not mistaken
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Yeap only blue,grey and silver rhodium dial is hot
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Yeap only blue,grey and silver rhodium dial is hot
then my chocolate is dong guo shui lorrr. colder than water (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/78198fede02c954e4bc315672b16137f.jpg)
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Yeap only blue,grey and silver rhodium dial is hot
then my chocolate is dong guo shui lorrr. colder than water (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/78198fede02c954e4bc315672b16137f.jpg)
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it doesnt matter the market, doesnt matter what other people think. as long as you love it.
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Yeap only blue,grey and silver rhodium dial is hot
then my chocolate is dong guo shui lorrr. colder than water (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/78198fede02c954e4bc315672b16137f.jpg)
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it doesnt matter the market, doesnt matter what other people think. as long as you love it.
true also haha. love it so much
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Yeap only blue,grey and silver rhodium dial is hot
then my chocolate is dong guo shui lorrr. colder than water (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/78198fede02c954e4bc315672b16137f.jpg)
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This is watch porn :mooning:
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Yeap only blue,grey and silver rhodium dial is hot
then my chocolate is dong guo shui lorrr. colder than water (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/78198fede02c954e4bc315672b16137f.jpg)
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This is watch porn :mooning:
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anyone else noticed the sales listings for rolexes have started to drop in price?
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anyone else noticed the sales listings for rolexes have started to drop in price?
Any particular models?
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Batman Jubilee may be undergoing correction amongst others. About time IMO.
Let's see how long it lasts.
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I noticed price at my dealer have dropped by about 10% particularly for the steel GMT models and Subs. The Daytonas are still going up. Skydweller (only blue) too.
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anyone else noticed the sales listings for rolexes have started to drop in price?
Indeed.The first i noticed is that most of the shops they have the same old stocks (can't sell) for some time already.Now the price is start to reduce a bit.Hope it will be less more ;D
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Even rolex OP 39mm Blue need q for some time
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anyone else noticed the sales listings for rolexes have started to drop in price?
Any particular models?
particularly the GMT. seems to have dropped in price for the pre-owneds by a few thousand. havent check on new ones in gray market though
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I have been a serial flipper and buy in bundle deals to get the sports pieces. It's hard to get sports pieces from ADs here in Malaysia, never mind the premium. When I began the hobby many years back, I've heard the same o' "Rolex bubble will pop, wait till price drop to buy." but one could see the sports pieces' real world pricing climbing higher and higher. The only Rolex pieces that you could buy cheap (and I use the term loosely) are dress watches e.g. Day-Date and Datejust, and sports pieces e.g. Explorer and Milgauss, to an extent. Or pick them up from the secondary market and these examples would be even much more discounted, especially now that 2019 saw newer movements fitted for the DJ36.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8Wio7agOS3s/WoqE-x2q9LI/AAAAAAAALG0/kxzKLx7gMV0HoAvX4xqJ75V5uMOU-aLCwCLcBGAs/s640/IMG-20180219-WA0004.jpg)
Sports pieces are a different ballgame altogether. Once discontinued, the prices go mad. I remembered flipping many pieces of Batman last year (have to check my blog to be certain, but it was a couple of pieces every other month) and prices were circa RM40k+ each. Just the other day, a collector whom took 2 pieces (1 to wear and 1 to keep for his son), told me that a grey reseller offered a very high trade-in for the unused, unnamed and undated piece he took from me. He flipped it for an AP; and a subsequent listing came up at RM70k thereafter. I thought that was too high a sale price from the grey reseller, but it was sold in a flash!
So if you want to have your cake and eat it too, go for the Rolex sports pieces. You get to wear it; and then when you get bored of the piece some time down the road, sell it to cover your cost or even make some profit thereafter. Or better still, just put it into the safe and wait for it to appreciate higher.
There's always an alternative of course. Just go for other brands. Omega has the Seamaster 300 and Planet Ocean, and these go for great discounts in the market. If you don't limit yourself to a Rolex on your wrist, there are way more bargains out there in the market.
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I have been a serial flipper and buy in bundle deals to get the sports pieces. It's hard to get sports pieces from ADs here in Malaysia, never mind the premium. When I began the hobby many years back, I've heard the same o' "Rolex bubble will pop, wait till price drop to buy." but one could see the sports pieces' real world pricing climbing higher and higher. The only Rolex pieces that you could buy cheap (and I use the term loosely) are dress watches e.g. Day-Date and Datejust, and sports pieces e.g. Explorer and Milgauss, to an extent. Or pick them up from the secondary market and these examples would be even much more discounted, especially now that 2019 saw newer movements fitted for the DJ36.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8Wio7agOS3s/WoqE-x2q9LI/AAAAAAAALG0/kxzKLx7gMV0HoAvX4xqJ75V5uMOU-aLCwCLcBGAs/s640/IMG-20180219-WA0004.jpg)
Sports pieces are a different ballgame altogether. Once discontinued, the prices go mad. I remembered flipping many pieces of Batman last year (have to check my blog to be certain, but it was a couple of pieces every other month) and prices were circa RM40k+ each. Just the other day, a collector whom took 2 pieces (1 to wear and 1 to keep for his son), told me that a grey reseller offered a very high trade-in for the unused, unnamed and undated piece he took from me. He flipped it for an AP; and a subsequent listing came up at RM70k thereafter. I thought that was too high a sale price from the grey reseller, but it was sold in a flash!
So if you want to have your cake and eat it too, go for the Rolex sports pieces. You get to wear it; and then when you get bored of the piece some time down the road, sell it to cover your cost or even make some profit thereafter. Or better still, just put it into the safe and wait for it to appreciate higher.
There's always an alternative of course. Just go for other brands. Omega has the Seamaster 300 and Planet Ocean, and these go for great discounts in the market. If you don't limit yourself to a Rolex on your wrist, there are way more bargains out there in the market.
Some excellent points. Which other brands/models would you recommend besides Rolex? You mentioned Omega Seamaster 300 and Planet Ocean, any others?
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Some excellent points. Which other brands/models would you recommend besides Rolex? You mentioned Omega Seamaster 300 and Planet Ocean, any others?
Well, I started off as a collector before I found a network of ADs whom could work with me to get the Rolex sports pieces, so I see it as bringing in pieces for local collectors whom couldn't get their hands on these pieces despite years in the waiting list.
As a personal collector, if I want watches at a good discount, I would look at Omega (their Speedmaster LE collection commands good premium but not their diver watches), Bell and Ross, Grand Seiko/Seiko, Oris, and microbrands. Seiko especially, opens up another world to me as it introduced me to the modding world and led me to my own customised production of limited production watches these days. Just pop by Andywristwatches and you would get the picture.
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I have been a serial flipper and buy in bundle deals to get the sports pieces. It's hard to get sports pieces from ADs here in Malaysia, never mind the premium. When I began the hobby many years back, I've heard the same o' "Rolex bubble will pop, wait till price drop to buy." but one could see the sports pieces' real world pricing climbing higher and higher. The only Rolex pieces that you could buy cheap (and I use the term loosely) are dress watches e.g. Day-Date and Datejust, and sports pieces e.g. Explorer and Milgauss, to an extent. Or pick them up from the secondary market and these examples would be even much more discounted, especially now that 2019 saw newer movements fitted for the DJ36.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8Wio7agOS3s/WoqE-x2q9LI/AAAAAAAALG0/kxzKLx7gMV0HoAvX4xqJ75V5uMOU-aLCwCLcBGAs/s640/IMG-20180219-WA0004.jpg)
Sports pieces are a different ballgame altogether. Once discontinued, the prices go mad. I remembered flipping many pieces of Batman last year (have to check my blog to be certain, but it was a couple of pieces every other month) and prices were circa RM40k+ each. Just the other day, a collector whom took 2 pieces (1 to wear and 1 to keep for his son), told me that a grey reseller offered a very high trade-in for the unused, unnamed and undated piece he took from me. He flipped it for an AP; and a subsequent listing came up at RM70k thereafter. I thought that was too high a sale price from the grey reseller, but it was sold in a flash!
So if you want to have your cake and eat it too, go for the Rolex sports pieces. You get to wear it; and then when you get bored of the piece some time down the road, sell it to cover your cost or even make some profit thereafter. Or better still, just put it into the safe and wait for it to appreciate higher.
There's always an alternative of course. Just go for other brands. Omega has the Seamaster 300 and Planet Ocean, and these go for great discounts in the market. If you don't limit yourself to a Rolex on your wrist, there are way more bargains out there in the market.
Very insightful thoughts, in fact, i've been following your posts here. You were selling Rolex Batman at RM40-42k early last year, and i thought it was on the high side, i was wrong, fast forward, the price had shot up. I'm lucky to settle for RM50k++ preowned this year. What are the Rolex Sports you're keeping?
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Very insightful thoughts, in fact, i've been following your posts here. You were selling Rolex Batman at RM40-42k early last year, and i thought it was on the high side, i was wrong, fast forward, the price had shot up. I'm lucky to settle for RM50k++ preowned this year. What are the Rolex Sports you're keeping?
I keep all the sports models that I wear myself, except the DSSD (which I found too much to be a walking billboard, then again could be just sour grapes that it wears me instead of me wearing it). And a couple of DD and DJ. And this fave piece that was the best of both worlds, usable for both sports and dress occasions- indeed why should only the ladies get all the blings? ;D
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XF2ZLDOCZrg/W65O6eYgjvI/AAAAAAAAOCk/fXoQU8ipYqAbyFq90XE2PoOUSI8hYbE-gCLcBGAs/s640/20180928_222933.jpg)
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I have been a serial flipper and buy in bundle deals to get the sports pieces. It's hard to get sports pieces from ADs here in Malaysia, never mind the premium. When I began the hobby many years back, I've heard the same o' "Rolex bubble will pop, wait till price drop to buy." but one could see the sports pieces' real world pricing climbing higher and higher. The only Rolex pieces that you could buy cheap (and I use the term loosely) are dress watches e.g. Day-Date and Datejust, and sports pieces e.g. Explorer and Milgauss, to an extent. Or pick them up from the secondary market and these examples would be even much more discounted, especially now that 2019 saw newer movements fitted for the DJ36.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8Wio7agOS3s/WoqE-x2q9LI/AAAAAAAALG0/kxzKLx7gMV0HoAvX4xqJ75V5uMOU-aLCwCLcBGAs/s640/IMG-20180219-WA0004.jpg)
Sports pieces are a different ballgame altogether. Once discontinued, the prices go mad. I remembered flipping many pieces of Batman last year (have to check my blog to be certain, but it was a couple of pieces every other month) and prices were circa RM40k+ each. Just the other day, a collector whom took 2 pieces (1 to wear and 1 to keep for his son), told me that a grey reseller offered a very high trade-in for the unused, unnamed and undated piece he took from me. He flipped it for an AP; and a subsequent listing came up at RM70k thereafter. I thought that was too high a sale price from the grey reseller, but it was sold in a flash!
So if you want to have your cake and eat it too, go for the Rolex sports pieces. You get to wear it; and then when you get bored of the piece some time down the road, sell it to cover your cost or even make some profit thereafter. Or better still, just put it into the safe and wait for it to appreciate higher.
There's always an alternative of course. Just go for other brands. Omega has the Seamaster 300 and Planet Ocean, and these go for great discounts in the market. If you don't limit yourself to a Rolex on your wrist, there are way more bargains out there in the market.
Hi there, I am just curious what are the "bundle watches" you usually get in order to qualify yourself for a sport rolex purchase from the ADs?
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I have been a serial flipper and buy in bundle deals to get the sports pieces. It's hard to get sports pieces from ADs here in Malaysia, never mind the premium. When I began the hobby many years back, I've heard the same o' "Rolex bubble will pop, wait till price drop to buy." but one could see the sports pieces' real world pricing climbing higher and higher. The only Rolex pieces that you could buy cheap (and I use the term loosely) are dress watches e.g. Day-Date and Datejust, and sports pieces e.g. Explorer and Milgauss, to an extent. Or pick them up from the secondary market and these examples would be even much more discounted, especially now that 2019 saw newer movements fitted for the DJ36.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8Wio7agOS3s/WoqE-x2q9LI/AAAAAAAALG0/kxzKLx7gMV0HoAvX4xqJ75V5uMOU-aLCwCLcBGAs/s640/IMG-20180219-WA0004.jpg)
Sports pieces are a different ballgame altogether. Once discontinued, the prices go mad. I remembered flipping many pieces of Batman last year (have to check my blog to be certain, but it was a couple of pieces every other month) and prices were circa RM40k+ each. Just the other day, a collector whom took 2 pieces (1 to wear and 1 to keep for his son), told me that a grey reseller offered a very high trade-in for the unused, unnamed and undated piece he took from me. He flipped it for an AP; and a subsequent listing came up at RM70k thereafter. I thought that was too high a sale price from the grey reseller, but it was sold in a flash!
So if you want to have your cake and eat it too, go for the Rolex sports pieces. You get to wear it; and then when you get bored of the piece some time down the road, sell it to cover your cost or even make some profit thereafter. Or better still, just put it into the safe and wait for it to appreciate higher.
There's always an alternative of course. Just go for other brands. Omega has the Seamaster 300 and Planet Ocean, and these go for great discounts in the market. If you don't limit yourself to a Rolex on your wrist, there are way more bargains out there in the market.
Hi there, I am just curious what are the "bundle watches" you usually get in order to qualify yourself for a sport rolex purchase from the ADs?
I've heard from people that you may need to spend up to RM100k for you to be entitled in VIP list, that will qualify for sports watch allocation such as explorer ii, sub no date. Not sure how true?
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What is the status for explorer II, very limited stock? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190808/9ee53765aeeb775fca0c739cd9a69f37.jpg)
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Prices for sports Rolexs have been increasing over the last 2 years. Waiting list is crazy unless you know an AD. The curve is going up steadily. Grey market sells at double the AD prices.
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One AD which I frequent told me that the explorer 2 is even harder to get than sub date
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If i want to sell this how much is the value without box.
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Look really nice on your wrist. That's all the matter.
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Rolex sports model prices wont go down anytime soon at all. Just a slight price adjustment during every year of this time so called holiday season, Rolex will release more watches.. but forget about getting those sports model at retail prices as they are mostly sold to VIP clients. Finding a mint pre-owned is difficult nowadays. There are plenty of used pre-owned with 7/10 condition. Mostly what we saw in the great market pre owned pieces are usually being polished so it pleases the eyes. Not every watch guru can polished these watches to be as new.. it takes lots of lots of experiences. For those watch enthusiasts they are able to tell and even feel the texture of those polished pieces.. anyway for those who loves batman GMT now is the time to get it. For hulk and pepsi.. u gotta get it at premium.