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Title: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Supercharger on July 01, 2019, 09:59:15 PM
Hi guys,

Looking for a branded luxury sport watch with budget below RM20k, any good recommendation ?
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: fuzzy on July 01, 2019, 10:01:48 PM
Omega moonwatch. Hesalite version.

If utility sport, Exp1 is hovering just above 20k if u stretch it slightly.

Grand Seiko is another great option as well.

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Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Supercharger on July 01, 2019, 10:04:22 PM
Look nice...how much this watch cost ?
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Henry T on July 02, 2019, 08:43:07 AM
A new Tudor Black Bay 58 or Black Bay GMT, with some change.

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Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Supercharger on July 02, 2019, 08:54:26 AM
Nice... What about Tudor Pelagos? It look nice and abit look alike Rolex Submariner ????
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Henry T on July 02, 2019, 09:00:55 AM
Nice... What about Tudor Pelagos? It look nice and abit look alike Rolex Submariner ????

Pelagos is titanium. It won't have the shine of stainless steel, but it is lighter.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Supercharger on July 02, 2019, 09:06:40 AM
Nice... What about Tudor Pelagos? It look nice and abit look alike Rolex Submariner ????

Pelagos is titanium. It won't have the shine of stainless steel, but it is lighter.

Yes. It's light weight.. Titanium doesn't look luxury?
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Kesharoo on July 02, 2019, 09:29:01 AM
I think the forum needs a bit more info:

1. Is this your only watch?
2. Do you prefer auto/manual wind?
3. Used or new?
4. Any complications required?

I think if it is your only watch, it will have to be a simple Rolex (no date perpetual if you prefer new or datejust pre-owned). Alternatively it will be an Omega, Tudor or even Zenith. You can also look at some pre-owned JLCs.

20k takes you to a number of choices, take your time and enjoy the hunt!
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Supercharger on July 02, 2019, 09:54:20 AM
I think the forum needs a bit more info:

1. Is this your only watch?
2. Do you prefer auto/manual wind?
3. Used or new?
4. Any complications required?

I think if it is your only watch, it will have to be a simple Rolex (no date perpetual if you prefer new or datejust pre-owned). Alternatively it will be an Omega, Tudor or even Zenith. You can also look at some pre-owned JLCs.

20k takes you to a number of choices, take your time and enjoy the hunt!

Im new to a luxury watch.
Well, i start within my budget of 20k..
Doesn't matter new or pre-owned
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Kesharoo on July 02, 2019, 09:59:17 AM
I would also consider Cartier as a luxury brand. Come to think of it, I would not consider Omega, IWC, Breitling, Tudor or even a Grand Seiko to be luxury brands, they are more sports watches albeit some at a high end. It's a personal opinion as to what luxury means.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Supercharger on July 02, 2019, 10:02:42 AM
I would also consider Cartier as a luxury brand. Come to think of it, I would not consider Omega, IWC, Breitling, Tudor or even a Grand Seiko to be luxury brands, they are more sports watches albeit some at a high end. It's a personal opinion as to what luxury means.

Ok. Thanks for explaining, will slowly hunt :)
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Cocas on July 02, 2019, 11:40:38 AM
Hi guys,

Looking for a branded luxury sport watch with budget below RM20k, any good recommendation ?

Bvlgari Octo,  JLC Reverso,  Ulysses Nardin,  Rolex Cellini.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: manx samad on July 02, 2019, 02:38:14 PM
Yeah, like the earlier post mentioned - u need to shed more light on your preference such as dial size, steel / leather rubber bracelet, in house or outsourced movement etc.

20k is indeed a nice budget to start with.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: MY1 on July 02, 2019, 03:34:01 PM
there are many used branded sport watches under RM20k. U might need to provide more details of your preference.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: fuzzy on July 02, 2019, 10:47:15 PM
I think the forum needs a bit more info:

1. Is this your only watch?
2. Do you prefer auto/manual wind?
3. Used or new?
4. Any complications required?

I think if it is your only watch, it will have to be a simple Rolex (no date perpetual if you prefer new or datejust pre-owned). Alternatively it will be an Omega, Tudor or even Zenith. You can also look at some pre-owned JLCs.

20k takes you to a number of choices, take your time and enjoy the hunt!

Im new to a luxury watch.
Well, i start within my budget of 20k..
Doesn't matter new or pre-owned
I think the question is, what do you view the piece as? What is the environment you operate in?

A speedy is useless if you intend to dive with it, a Sub might not be suitable if you do black tie events, a GS might look out of place if you rep t shirt and jeans.

So, what's the intention of this piece? Does brand perception matter? Or brand heritage? Or technology? Or versatility?

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Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: hsnrhashim on July 03, 2019, 01:57:02 PM
Another criteria to consider is that you enjoy looking at the watch and enjoy wearing it.  You might buy one due to brand or features, but you might get bored looking at it..


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Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: x-1o8-x on July 06, 2019, 08:30:34 AM
i personally think you should go to an AD or retailer and browse around for the watches that you might like. we can give our opinions here on what we think is a nice sports watch but ultimately you are going to wear it, so only you would know what you really want
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Mitty25 on July 06, 2019, 12:55:25 PM
It sounds like you just have 20k to splash and have no idea what you want. Like a lot of forumers mentioned, you’re not providing any details or preferences. It’s hard to help you out.

IMO, if you’re approaching it like this, perhaps go with a mechanical piece from the likes of Seiko/ Citizen/ Swatch. They generally range anywhere from Rm200 to Rm2000. These are brands well known for offering ‘alot of watch’ for the money spent.
It’s better to spend RM200 on a Seiko 5, save the other RM19.8k and buy something you’ll really love and cherish after you’ve gain a deeper appreciation for watches and have become familiar with what different brands have to offer. Cheers.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: alfaizal on July 06, 2019, 01:54:33 PM
Take your time to hunt, read and trying it on to avoid buyers remorse.
Appreciate the dial, the heritage, movements, and bracelet or strap type.
Most of the watches I bought only after pining and wanting it for more than 6 months.
That's when I know its the one that I want.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Watchlover78 on July 07, 2019, 08:14:31 AM
If you can top up a little bit more, I would suggest you to take explorer 2 40mm polar around rm25k.   Good luck in hunting~
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: scannee on July 07, 2019, 12:07:05 PM
Malaysia is about the cheapest non-Rolex market going

For a sports watch, depending in wrist size, I rate:

Omega Planet Ocean - I use the XL 45.5mm. You can dress it on steel for the office, I dress mine on orange rubber for holidays. Mines has taken a beating and it’s never complained. It also isn’t a scratch magnet due to the bezel size and semi brushes case.

Target price 8-10k

Panerai Base PAM 000 - wears fairly small, you can dress it with a plethora of custom leather creations. It does noticeably mark and scratch but is robust.

Target price 11-13k

Tudor Black Bay - any of them come in under budget and wear fairly large. Nice finish and robust.

Target Price 9-13k

Rolex Explorer - Stretching up to just over 20k will get you an Explorer 2.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: hansome on July 07, 2019, 03:30:44 PM
the entry level explorer 1 or oyster perpetual 39 is a good starting point IMHO
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Supercharger on July 08, 2019, 02:22:46 PM
Thank you guys for sharing so much info..

After a few visit at boutique, i'm kinda of interested on Tudor Pelagos (42mm) or Black Bay 58 (41mm) The sales rep told me both are in house movement. Kinda suit me for daily wear..
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Supercharger on July 08, 2019, 02:25:47 PM
Malaysia is about the cheapest non-Rolex market going

For a sports watch, depending in wrist size, I rate:

Omega Planet Ocean - I use the XL 45.5mm. You can dress it on steel for the office, I dress mine on orange rubber for holidays. Mines has taken a beating and it’s never complained. It also isn’t a scratch magnet due to the bezel size and semi brushes case.

Target price 8-10k

Panerai Base PAM 000 - wears fairly small, you can dress it with a plethora of custom leather creations. It does noticeably mark and scratch but is robust.

Target price 11-13k

Tudor Black Bay - any of them come in under budget and wear fairly large. Nice finish and robust.

Target Price 9-13k

Rolex Explorer - Stretching up to just over 20k will get you an Explorer 2.

Thanks your your guidance.
Will slowly look into it :)
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: edwin880721 on July 09, 2019, 09:14:42 AM
With 20k. the best choice i can think of is Tudor Blackbay and Omega Moonwatch. Both are highly reliable watch and considerable resell value
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: tc on July 10, 2019, 02:52:17 PM
Add to the similar thought, how abt the choice between

- Omega Speedmaster Pro and
- Jaeger Polaris Automatic

?? Any thought?
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: edwin880721 on July 10, 2019, 03:20:36 PM
Add to the similar thought, how abt the choice between

- Omega Speedmaster Pro and
- Jaeger Polaris Automatic

?? Any thought?

Omega Speedmaster Pro will be my choice. Looking sharp and suit both casual and formal wear.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: tannitech on July 10, 2019, 08:28:39 PM
Omega Moonwatch FTW! Should be relatively easier to get compared to the Tudor BB.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: edwin880721 on July 10, 2019, 10:17:40 PM
Omega Moonwatch FTW! Should be relatively easier to get compared to the Tudor BB.  :Cheers:

Tudor BB can get with 3 months waiting list. Still worthwhile for waiting
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Supercharger on July 11, 2019, 08:17:27 AM
Omega Moonwatch FTW! Should be relatively easier to get compared to the Tudor BB.  :Cheers:

Tudor BB can get with 3 months waiting list. Still worthwhile for waiting

Yeah, currently Black Bay 58 no stock ...
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: edwin880721 on July 11, 2019, 10:48:40 AM
The moment when u got it on hand is worthwhile, best feeling ever. It’s like achievements unlocked.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Supercharger on July 12, 2019, 08:46:18 PM
The moment when u got it on hand is worthwhile, best feeling ever. It’s like achievements unlocked.

We both got the same thought  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Olkuu0205 on July 15, 2019, 12:37:49 PM
Pre-owned Jeager le-coultre. High End brand, High end quality, High end horology  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: spoon2272 on July 18, 2019, 08:57:45 PM
Tudor Black Bay 58 for me but too bad it does'nt come with date  :-[
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: RichGoD on July 23, 2019, 04:19:43 PM
omega higher 2nd hand value after rolex
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Jackylim on August 08, 2019, 08:43:22 PM
Are you interested explorer II? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190808/e49b7ed5d4fce94ec687b7a3ad1350fc.jpg)

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Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: an36 on August 12, 2019, 03:53:46 AM
Are you interested explorer II? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190808/e49b7ed5d4fce94ec687b7a3ad1350fc.jpg)

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Any sales link?
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: TannaLR on August 14, 2019, 01:21:57 PM
For 20k , Used Pam 312, 359 , Omega Seamasters/ planet ocean and Tudor black bays are solid choices. 
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: sixtydee123 on August 15, 2019, 11:11:21 AM
Was in the same shoes as you. Collection consists of casio f91w, tissot PRS516, explorer 2 and sub. Ended up getting a new tudor black bay S&G as my daily watch. Therefore would recommend the tudor black bay series. Wont go wrong with any of them.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: an36 on August 15, 2019, 11:40:16 AM
Was in the same shoes as you. Collection consists of casio f91w, tissot PRS516, explorer 2 and sub. Ended up getting a new tudor black bay S&G as my daily watch. Therefore would recommend the tudor black bay series. Wont go wrong with any of them.
Hehehe and you bought the one with leather and thinking to change it to fabric strap right?
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: sixtydee123 on August 15, 2019, 03:34:49 PM
Was in the same shoes as you. Collection consists of casio f91w, tissot PRS516, explorer 2 and sub. Ended up getting a new tudor black bay S&G as my daily watch. Therefore would recommend the tudor black bay series. Wont go wrong with any of them.
Hehehe and you bought the one with leather and thinking to change it to fabric strap right?

Haha yes  ;D! Not looking to change to fabric, but would want to have an additional fabric option heheh  :D
Title: What's a RM15k keeper in your books?
Post by: WKChin on September 25, 2019, 03:54:39 PM
What would you recommend to a non-collector for one (that's right, one) watch that would stand the test of time (stylistically, mechanically and economically) for around RM15k? Preferably something reasonable to maintain and will hold/appreciate in value.  I do understand that likeability, aesthetics etc is subjective... I'm really interested to know your subjective opinion.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: What's a RM15k keeper in your books?
Post by: Sathiskumar on September 25, 2019, 04:18:23 PM
It really depends on what you are looking for.  Is it a dress watch, dive watch, racing watch, field watch, pilot watch, etc? Are you ok with pre-owned? Be more specific because for RM15k, there are a lot of watches out there.
Title: Re: What's a RM15k keeper in your books?
Post by: WKChin on September 25, 2019, 04:29:54 PM
Sorry... yes those are important questions. Not a dress watch... something for casual, rugged wear even. So likely dive/sports/racing type of form factor. Yes, I'm fine with pre-owned.
Title: Re: What's a RM15k keeper in your books?
Post by: G.MAC on September 25, 2019, 05:09:33 PM
What would you recommend to a non-collector for one (that's right, one) watch that would stand the test of time (stylistically, mechanically and economically) for around RM15k? Preferably something reasonable to maintain and will hold/appreciate in value.  I do understand that likeability, aesthetics etc is subjective... I'm really interested to know your subjective opinion.  :Cheers:

Rolex Datejust
Title: Re: What's a RM15k keeper in your books?
Post by: an36 on September 25, 2019, 05:22:28 PM
What would you recommend to a non-collector for one (that's right, one) watch that would stand the test of time (stylistically, mechanically and economically) for around RM15k? Preferably something reasonable to maintain and will hold/appreciate in value.  I do understand that likeability, aesthetics etc is subjective... I'm really interested to know your subjective opinion.  :Cheers:

15k

Perhaps a pre owned oyster perpetual 34/36.. or even older datejust.. omega speedmaster.. grand seiko spring drive.
 I've got a contact for grand seiko for higher discounts of you're keen
Title: Re: What's a RM15k keeper in your books?
Post by: Sathiskumar on September 25, 2019, 05:29:48 PM
Sorry... yes those are important questions. Not a dress watch... something for casual, rugged wear even. So likely dive/sports/racing type of form factor. Yes, I'm fine with pre-owned.

Here are some models you can explore. All new, not pre-owned.

1. IWC Pilot Collection
2. Tudor Black Bay Fifty-Eight
3. Tudor Pelagos
4. Breitling Superocean Heritage II
5. Oris Divers Sixty-Five Chronograph
6. Tag Heuer Carrera Calibre 16
7. Tag Heuer Aquaracer 500M
8. Omega Seamaster Diver 300 M
9. Omega Speedmaster 38mm/40mm
10. Longines HydroConquest Automatic 41mm
11. Ball Engineer Hydrocarbon Moon Navigator (check out the lume, it's insane)
12. Ball Roadmaster Marine GMT
13. Bell & Ross BR126 Sport
14. Montblanc Timewalker Chronograph

I think you should be able to find one you like among that list. Good luck.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: WKChin on September 25, 2019, 06:12:25 PM
That's a nice treasure trove of suggestions. Thanks guys! Now for some watch porn...  ;D
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: AKM on September 27, 2019, 10:09:08 PM
Don’t think twice.. buy a used Rolex date just. Cannot go wrong with that,
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: Sathiskumar on September 27, 2019, 11:07:30 PM
I see a number of people are suggesting a Rolex DJ. It's a fine watch but it does not fit into the budget and furthermore, it's a dress watch. Getting one pre-owned is not impossible but good condition ones are hard to come by for that price.

If you're not into the Rolex bandwagon but willing to spend RM15k for a watch, buy something that at least comes with a warranty. Just my 2 cents worth.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: AKM on September 28, 2019, 11:27:45 PM
Check the Rolex DJ used or Breitling Navitimer new 42
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: WKChin on September 29, 2019, 08:34:18 AM
I have to admit I'm not bowled over by the looks of the Rolex DJ, but that's just me I guess




I see a number of people are suggesting a Rolex DJ. It's a fine watch but it does not fit into the budget and furthermore, it's a dress watch. Getting one pre-owned is not impossible but good condition ones are hard to come by for that price.

If you're not into the Rolex bandwagon but willing to spend RM15k for a watch, buy something that at least comes with a warranty. Just my 2 cents worth.
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: AKM on September 29, 2019, 06:26:07 PM
Check the Tudor Blackbay
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: WKChin on September 29, 2019, 06:52:55 PM
That I do like. But I'm at the moment most partial to a moonwatch. Love the aesthetic, love the heritage story. Still learning about the different versions and trying to research what each are actually worth. Not an easy task for a noob, but very interesting nevertheless.   :D :Cheers:



Check the Tudor Blackbay
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: echan78 on October 07, 2019, 02:36:39 PM
I had a moonwatch previously and was very happy with it. From the sexy white hands to hesalite dome, i find myself glaring & marvelling at it all the time. Of course there's a bond to be built overtime if you have to wind the watch every morning :)
Title: Re: Budget below RM20k
Post by: WKChin on October 07, 2019, 05:39:44 PM
Labour of love! Haha


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