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Title: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 10, 2015, 12:46:55 PM
Hi guys, so today im exited to let you know that i decided to get a new piece for my collection but im a lil bit confused on which one to get as both of these watches are beautiful and both having insane technology features. I know some of you might say why not get both of them but im deciding on getting either one of it. Maybe soon enough i'll get both haha  ;D


I'll just make it short, here attached are the stunning pictures of those watches. Most vote wins i guess? Let me know so which one should i go with and why. Besides price please. Im ready for either one  8)



Beautiful Panerai PAM 438 with Ceramic case and bracelet with GMT function.
(http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a441/Abbashabshee/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpssodrqpg5.jpeg) (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/Abbashabshee/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpssodrqpg5.jpeg.html)


Beautiful Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660 with the new beautiful Gradient Dial and Diving function up to 12800ft.
(http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a441/Abbashabshee/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps8xkemefg.jpeg) (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/Abbashabshee/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps8xkemefg.jpeg.html)



Both are in 44mm case size, both having different styles and both are beautiful in their own way, i hope i could get this confusion done soon as i just need some opinion on it :). One with diving feature and another with GMT feature. Thanks again Members much appreciated  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: antoniosaprozeld on November 10, 2015, 02:10:04 PM
Deep sea with its deep blue dial FTW

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Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 10, 2015, 07:24:32 PM
Deep sea with its deep blue dial FTW

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I have to agree! The dial is amazing! Had a chance to have a look once but getting one might takes time as its production is limited.
Btw, thanks for the suggestion!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: somdej on November 10, 2015, 08:25:10 PM
Well built, highly engineered, it's the closest to perfect diver watch. Hands down on Deep blue


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Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: beaujarle on November 10, 2015, 10:32:04 PM
In love with the 116660. What's the RRP in M'sia?


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Title: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: nikfs1881 on November 10, 2015, 11:09:56 PM
Without any doubt, i would go for the deepsea....good retention value, looks much better than the PAM438 and it is suitable for most(if not all) occasion - unfortunately, can't say the same for the PAM


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Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: Timeless on November 11, 2015, 04:25:46 AM
Dblue gets my vote
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: theseira on November 11, 2015, 04:27:01 AM
Deep sea for sure.

Don't like the PAM dial and the date function don't blend in for me. Also feels like the bracelet don't suit it.


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Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: zjchen on November 11, 2015, 05:02:06 AM
I think panerai has another gmt version with the am/pm which makes it a 'truer' gmt watch. Bcos of that my vote goes to the Rolex.


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Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 11, 2015, 05:24:04 AM
In love with the 116660. What's the RRP in M'sia?


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I have to say , the dial cathes the eye! Rolex boutique in Malaysia are selling at premium price around RM58k. Where as, the AD selling it around RM 53k. I hope to get a better deal soon if this is the one  ::)
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 11, 2015, 05:31:28 AM
Without any doubt, i would go for the deepsea....good retention value, looks much better than the PAM438 and it is suitable for most(if not all) occasion - unfortunately, can't say the same for the PAM


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Deep sea for sure.

Don't like the PAM dial and the date function don't blend in for me. Also feels like the bracelet don't suit it.


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Rolex do retain value in pre-owned condition especially in this model, im not going to flip it but who knows incase of emergency? Lol

Actually if PAM 438 would have the Base sandwhich dial or the SLC dial i think if would look better, it seems many paneristi had an issue with the dial but IMO it wouldn't bother me that much and i think the bracelet option is better than the PAM 441. Atleast you could change it to an OEM strap? Makes you double win 8)

By the way, thanks guys for the opinion! :)
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 11, 2015, 05:33:35 AM
Thanks guys for the suggestions/opinions! Still waiting for more opinions/suggestions! Much appreciated  :thumbsup:


As for now, it seems like the DBlue is winning  ;)
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 11, 2015, 05:44:17 AM
I think panerai has another gmt version with the am/pm which makes it a 'truer' gmt watch. Bcos of that my vote goes to the Rolex.


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I think the one you are talking about is the PAM 233. Actually that is one nice good looking PAM but i prefer the older version of Dot dial instead of the AM/PM dial but thanks again for the suggestions/opinions! Cheers :)
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: beaujarle on November 11, 2015, 05:18:19 PM
I would go for the PAM, when I've owned the Rolex.


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Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 15, 2015, 07:54:48 PM
Seems like many of the members chose DBlue over the Tuttonero. I guess i should go with DBlue instead. Now the watch hunting begins . Wish me luck on getting the best deal!  :thumbsup: ;)
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: chrisyen on November 16, 2015, 06:49:05 AM
not a fan of colourful watches

i will pefer a standard DSSD

save the 15k for another watch
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: blue605 on November 18, 2015, 04:40:04 PM
i prefer deepsea because of the 2nd hand value
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 18, 2015, 04:48:22 PM
not a fan of colourful watches

i will pefer a standard DSSD

save the 15k for another watch

That was my opinion before too but i suggest you should have a look on the dial by personally handling the watch at an AD or Boutique. I bet it will change your perceptions. The dial do make big difference to the watch. Dont get me wrong, even i prefer the SubC LN over the SubC LV but this deepsea dblue dial is one of the most eye catching dial i've ever seen  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 18, 2015, 04:50:34 PM
i prefer deepsea because of the 2nd hand value

Yes it does, not just this model but mostly Rolex sports model. Patek and Rolex have the most high resale value :)
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 26, 2015, 05:27:40 AM
After all the suggestion from members,people and votes. I guess im pulling of a trigger to DBlue! Thanks for the opinions/suggestions. Now wish me luck on hunting one in brand new with good offer price! Will post some pictures once i got it in my hand :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: theseira on November 26, 2015, 07:50:10 AM
After all the suggestion from members,people and votes. I guess im pulling of a trigger to DBlue! Thanks for the opinions/suggestions. Now wish me luck on hunting one in brand new with good offer price! Will post some pictures once i got it in my hand :thumbsup:

Good luck! some dealers I spoke to mentioned to me that this piece is hard to buy new at retail price. I think this has become the hottest modern Rolex and some ppl manage to sell above retail.
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 26, 2015, 10:10:32 AM
After all the suggestion from members,people and votes. I guess im pulling of a trigger to DBlue! Thanks for the opinions/suggestions. Now wish me luck on hunting one in brand new with good offer price! Will post some pictures once i got it in my hand :thumbsup:

Good luck! some dealers I spoke to mentioned to me that this piece is hard to buy new at retail price. I think this has become the hottest modern Rolex and some ppl manage to sell above retail.

Thanks! I heard that alot from grey dealers and authorize dealers. Hope that i could find myself in a very good offer that cannot be refused haha. Hope im lucky!
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: Frogman on November 30, 2015, 10:03:34 AM
Dblue is stunning!
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on November 30, 2015, 01:37:57 PM
Dblue is stunning!


Cant wait to get mine soon, excited to share pictures with members  ;)
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: D'Andy on December 01, 2015, 07:31:32 AM
Cant wait to get mine soon, excited to share pictures with members  ;)

We'll be waiting for the pics- the D-Blue is a stunner and you simply can't go wrong with it... unless you have a way too-small wrist, that is. That piece has got presence! :Cheers:
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: chrisyen on December 01, 2015, 07:49:07 AM
not a fan of colourful watches

i will pefer a standard DSSD

save the 15k for another watch

That was my opinion before too but i suggest you should have a look on the dial by personally handling the watch at an AD or Boutique. I bet it will change your perceptions. The dial do make big difference to the watch. Dont get me wrong, even i prefer the SubC LN over the SubC LV but this deepsea dblue dial is one of the most eye catching dial i've ever seen  :thumbsup:

i seen it, tried it....
i can even get u one
but personally i dont like it
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on December 02, 2015, 04:25:49 AM
Cant wait to get mine soon, excited to share pictures with members  ;)

We'll be waiting for the pics- the D-Blue is a stunner and you simply can't go wrong with it... unless you have a way too-small wrist, that is. That piece has got presence! :Cheers:


Thanks! :) i tried once on the black dial and i have a 7 inch wrist and the watch sits perfect on my wrist , just love the large and thick case
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on December 02, 2015, 04:27:55 AM
not a fan of colourful watches

i will pefer a standard DSSD

save the 15k for another watch

That was my opinion before too but i suggest you should have a look on the dial by personally handling the watch at an AD or Boutique. I bet it will change your perceptions. The dial do make big difference to the watch. Dont get me wrong, even i prefer the SubC LN over the SubC LV but this deepsea dblue dial is one of the most eye catching dial i've ever seen  :thumbsup:

i seen it, tried it....
i can even get u one
but personally i dont like it




I see, maybe the watch is not your cup of tea.

Well diffferent people have different taste,

I guess in this case. You would go for Tuttonero instead? :)
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: G.MAC on December 02, 2015, 07:28:21 AM
Between the two, deepsea wins it for me. I love the look. However, I dont like the fit on my wrist. I have owned 2-3 deepsea but so far I have always put them on the trading block as I find it uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: pez on December 02, 2015, 08:16:26 AM
Id go for the Panerai. I love how all Panerai looks and I just dont love the rolex look. If there is another choice, id go Tudor Pelagos. But thats just me.
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on December 02, 2015, 11:16:43 AM
Between the two, deepsea wins it for me. I love the look. However, I dont like the fit on my wrist. I have owned 2-3 deepsea but so far I have always put them on the trading block as I find it uncomfortable.


What's your wrist size, post some wrist shots ;)
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on December 02, 2015, 11:19:34 AM
Id go for the Panerai. I love how all Panerai looks and I just dont love the rolex look. If there is another choice, id go Tudor Pelagos. But thats just me.

I do love panerai watches too but Rolex and Tudor has almost the same design btw. The tudor pelagos is nice but i think i would go for DBlue than pelagos. Yeap different people with different taste :)
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: chrisyen on December 03, 2015, 12:48:00 PM
not a fan of colourful watches

i will pefer a standard DSSD

save the 15k for another watch

That was my opinion before too but i suggest you should have a look on the dial by personally handling the watch at an AD or Boutique. I bet it will change your perceptions. The dial do make big difference to the watch. Dont get me wrong, even i prefer the SubC LN over the SubC LV but this deepsea dblue dial is one of the most eye catching dial i've ever seen  :thumbsup:

i seen it, tried it....
i can even get u one
but personally i dont like it




I see, maybe the watch is not your cup of tea.

Well diffferent people have different taste,

I guess in this case. You would go for Tuttonero instead? :)

i owned DSSD, i love it... it sit well on my wrist, i like to feel the present for my watch.
what i dont like the D blue is the colorful dial ! especially the lume green text printed

pam i like, again not this model, i love those like their vintage, 2 hands ( gold / blue )
as simple as it can - base
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on December 05, 2015, 05:40:28 PM
not a fan of colourful watches

i will pefer a standard DSSD

save the 15k for another watch

That was my opinion before too but i suggest you should have a look on the dial by personally handling the watch at an AD or Boutique. I bet it will change your perceptions. The dial do make big difference to the watch. Dont get me wrong, even i prefer the SubC LN over the SubC LV but this deepsea dblue dial is one of the most eye catching dial i've ever seen  :thumbsup:

i seen it, tried it....
i can even get u one
but personally i dont like it




I see, maybe the watch is not your cup of tea.

Well diffferent people have different taste,

I guess in this case. You would go for Tuttonero instead? :)

i owned DSSD, i love it... it sit well on my wrist, i like to feel the present for my watch.
what i dont like the D blue is the colorful dial ! especially the lume green text printed

pam i like, again not this model, i love those like their vintage, 2 hands ( gold / blue )
as simple as it can - base



Would love to see some of your wristshots on Deepsea! ;)
You wouldn't even consider the D Blue even for a very good offer?

The only Pam that caught my intention on acquiring one will be the PAM 372 IMO,
Base case with gold hands. Im going for that after my D Blue purchase lol
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: antoniosaprozeld on December 05, 2015, 08:42:11 PM
So now u no longer considering d pam438? But even if its a toss between ur now prefered pam372 & deepsea.. vote goes to deepsea.. what more if its deep blue..

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Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: AbbasHabshee on December 07, 2015, 04:51:34 AM
So now u no longer considering d pam438? But even if its a toss between ur now prefered pam372 & deepsea.. vote goes to deepsea.. what more if its deep blue..

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I love PAM's but in this case i will go for the Deepsea DBlue since im acquiring only one watch. I love PAM 372 but i'll go with the DBlue then i would add the PAM 372 in my collection. I just love the simplicity of the dial with the gold hands. I would definately go for all if my budget is higher, if you know what i mean hahaha ;)
Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: Umeshmalani on December 08, 2015, 10:27:32 PM
The DBS get my vote too... Crafted very nicely n very hard to get at good prices


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Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: saafar on December 15, 2015, 05:27:11 PM
My vote for the deepsea...if you want GMT function, why dont you go for the GMT Master ii BLNR- i have one and I'm loving it. If you need a bigger dial, i would go for PAM, but not the one here  :P

Title: Re: Panerai PAM 438 Tuttonero or Rolex Deepsea DBlue 116660
Post by: ayvin on December 16, 2015, 06:25:17 PM
The price have gone up tremendously compare to last year. rm49500 consider a good deal?