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Offline dpkong

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2021, 06:34:53 PM »
The date window ruins it for me


Will just call this the Datetona then..


The diff is around rm13k compared to SS Daytona...

Problem is Rolex ain’t selling u one..

But you know it's a Zenith and not a ROLEX and deep down, you will still want the Daytona even when you have this.

Though I'd say this OMEGA does look a lot like a Daytona too..

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2021, 02:45:56 PM »
My Zenith EP 42mm anthracite grey dial..

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2021, 03:24:14 PM »
My Zenith EP 42mm anthracite grey dial..

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Handsome piece bro, did it come with the croc strap or was there an SS bracelet as well?
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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2021, 03:37:12 PM »
It comes with leather strap and folding buckle.

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2021, 04:11:44 PM »
Taken from Facebook but if you ask me, I am not that guy because I don't own a Daytona.

Jokes a side, the Zenith Chronomaster sport uses the calibre 3600 which uses an escape wheel to drive the chronograph. This could potentially cause accuracy issues. However, Zenith tries to solve it by using a low-inertia silicon for the escape wheel but I am guessing time will tell whether this would solve it or not.

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2021, 05:34:00 PM »
It comes with leather strap and folding buckle.

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Whats service charges like for one of these? I always feel a tad hesitant about picking up a chronograph mechanical wondering how its gonna impact maintenance further down the road.

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2021, 05:36:03 PM »
I have yet to service the watch. Was told the service charge is not expensive...

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2021, 02:57:34 PM »
Just saw this n thought it was hilarious  ;D


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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2021, 01:56:58 PM »
Is the “daytona” available in malaysia already?

Saw someone flexing it in facebook mwg, but call to AD say watch not yet arrive

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2021, 02:03:49 PM »
Is the “daytona” available in malaysia already?

Saw someone flexing it in facebook mwg, but call to AD say watch not yet arrive
AD said most likely Feb/March. Should be very interesting to see in the flesh. Reviews seem to be very good so far but all the platforms inevitably compare it to the Rolex ;)

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #60 on: January 31, 2021, 08:03:39 PM »
Is the “daytona” available in malaysia already?

Saw someone flexing it in facebook mwg, but call to AD say watch not yet arrive
AD said most likely Feb/March. Should be very interesting to see in the flesh. Reviews seem to be very good so far but all the platforms inevitably compare it to the Rolex ;)

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Some people just want to be the first.... have heard that it's around rm35k which puts it about 20% discount... still a bit much for a steel Zenith if you ask me...

And I think the hype about resembling a Daytona is too much.. no crown guards, no screw down pushers, a date window and solid coloured subdials nearly overlapping... is very much Zenith design.

Then as a member here points out..

Taken from Facebook but if you ask me, I am not that guy because I don't own a Daytona.

Jokes a side, the Zenith Chronomaster sport uses the calibre 3600 which uses an escape wheel to drive the chronograph. This could potentially cause accuracy issues. However, Zenith tries to solve it by using a low-inertia silicon for the escape wheel but I am guessing time will tell whether this would solve it or not.

and from https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/zenith-chronomaster-sport-with-the-el-primero-caliber-3600-introducing

the new Calibre 3600 has yet to prove it's reliability and I'd like to see what happens when more users buy it and start letting the chronograph run for extended periods.

Overall, the 1/10th will be an interesting feature and will be watching for it when it's at least 30% or more off retail.. the striking 10th models were never a big hit and suffered badly in the resale market.




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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2021, 06:21:55 AM »
I think this new Zenith is decently competitive in the new high-end sport chronos market. Since the Daytona is now 100k and even the Omega 321 is inflated too. If lets say with 25-30% discount at 30k+ or so, it's actually pretty attractive. The only possible issue is that it's a Zenith, which means it'll inevitably be an enthusiast's option, and lack the mainstream appeal of the other brands. The more I looked at the pictures, the more I have a soft spot for the black dial version ;)

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2021, 07:18:39 AM »
Its a good thing for zenith la kan, I can't remember a time when they last received this much attention. Even if this is all just hype and the market perception for the watch will cool down soon enough. Hopefully in a couple of years the black dialed one would be on the secondary market at a nice discoubt.

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« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2021, 07:48:24 AM »
Its a good thing for zenith la kan, I can't remember a time when they last received this much attention. Even if this is all just hype and the market perception for the watch will cool down soon enough. Hopefully in a couple of years the black dialed one would be on the secondary market at a nice discoubt.
Totally agreed. No rush... go visit AD and look see first :D

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2021, 12:32:53 PM »
Its a good thing for zenith la kan, I can't remember a time when they last received this much attention. Even if this is all just hype and the market perception for the watch will cool down soon enough. Hopefully in a couple of years the black dialed one would be on the secondary market at a nice discoubt.
Let’s see the hype is enough to drive the sales up for zenith.. i hope they don’t hold back the discounts due to hype up demand.

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2021, 11:03:15 AM »
Its a good thing for zenith la kan, I can't remember a time when they last received this much attention. Even if this is all just hype and the market perception for the watch will cool down soon enough. Hopefully in a couple of years the black dialed one would be on the secondary market at a nice discoubt.
Let’s see the hype is enough to drive the sales up for zenith.. i hope they don’t hold back the discounts due to hype up demand.

Isn't the whole purpose of hype'd up demand to cut out discounts and hopefully create a premium?

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2021, 11:18:29 AM »
I think this watch will be a relatively easy one to get to be honest. It is a great looking watch, priced relatively well, BUT the endless comparison against the daytona will give it the perception of a homage watch. And Zenith's watches aren't terribly popular to begin with, especially when they have a ton of other EPs in the range. So, I think... good discounts!

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2021, 11:50:36 AM »
Isn't the whole purpose of hype'd up demand to cut out discounts and hopefully create a premium?

well that's the point but whether it works out for zenith I have my doubts

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2021, 09:32:27 PM »
I reckon that's what Zenith wants to create, an atmosphere of desirability to justify a price premium. However, it remains to be seen whether they can actually sustain that situation over time to be able to command that premium. I say more power to them if they do, more power to us if they don't :Laughing_on_floor:

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #69 on: February 11, 2021, 03:19:45 PM »
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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2021, 04:06:07 PM »
Finally picked up my A384 today :)

Thing looks absolutely lovely and the ladder bracelet is light, balanced and comfortable. Finishing is good on the bracelet, fit is decent and the retro feel is through the roof.

On another note, Zenith decided to pair the bracelet with a rather simple thin stamped clasp which not only looks vintage, but feels vintage too. The upside is that it's light and doesn't make the watch bottom-heavy; but the downside is that the quality feels like something from an early Seiko 5 (i.e. cheap - even the new 5KXs have better clasps). The flip-lock mechanism likewise feels cheap too. Which I think is a deliberate move from Zenith for that vintage vibe... but they could have easily engineered a much higher quality clasp.

Overall, the clasp isn't a dealbreaker yet since the ladder bracelet just looks so special. Time will tell how it fares after I get more wrist time.

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2021, 06:30:04 PM »
That's a cracking piece right there mate, congrats on the new watch :thumbsup:

Was wondering about the clasp/ flip lock thing u mentioned, have u got a shot of it? Also, if u dont mind the ask, how many % off did u manage to wrangle off the shop and what's the servicing rate gonna be like?

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2021, 09:22:10 PM »
That's a cracking piece right there mate, congrats on the new watch

Was wondering about the clasp/ flip lock thing u mentioned, have u got a shot of it? Also, if u dont mind the ask, how many % off did u manage to wrangle off the shop and what's the servicing rate gonna be like?
Ahh thanks! No joke, the clasp is almost identical to the original Gay Freres clasp. I just googled the vintage one and it looks exactly the same to my eyes. But I have to say the bracelet quality of the new one looks better with less slack/jangle. Will update again on the wearing experience once I get more wrist time.

PS: I got almost 30% off for it after some tough haggling, but they recently increase the RRP of the A384 by about 1k+ so I had to pay a bit more than what I expected. Service-wise I have no idea but I read that El Primeros are generally not too expensive to service. Hope that helps!

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2021, 09:26:09 PM »
This image is of the original vintage clasp. The new one looks exactly the same, down to the Zenith text engraving & location.

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Re: Any Zenith Lovers?
« Reply #74 on: February 19, 2021, 06:52:23 AM »
Had no idea who this Gay Freres was and their significance to the swiss watch industry la, had to read up a bit. Interesting, they made stuff for everybody at one point.

I reckon ur right in that they wanted to maintain the period accuracy of the watch by making the clasp the way it is. So long as it firmly holds in place ok la. Having said that, now comes the next fun part - hunting new straps  :D I'm assuming the lug width is 18mm?