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Main Forums => Watch Reviews => Topic started by: chrisyen on January 05, 2010, 09:16:48 PM
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bought this pre owned Ball.... a special one... with mechanical thermometer !
THE ENGINEER HYDROCARBON TMT TI LE
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0025.jpg)
42mm titanium case with st steel dive bezel
300m water resistant
7500gs shock resistant
black dial
st steel hand
tritium gas tube on hour marker and all hands
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0034.jpg)
the bezel is fitted with tritium tube at 12, the other marker are all luminous... lume is poor... but ball upgraded this in the latest spacemaster!
the construction of the bezel is simple, bezel a layer of rubber feel luminous ring and the st steel bezel insert...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0027.jpg)
the bracelet also mixed of titanium and st steel
the thick double clasps buckle with diver suit extension is made of steel, very well built, but ball against upgraded to butterfly style in the spacemaster which i dont really understand, butterfly clasp is difficult to wear... so i'm very happy with this buckle!
this ball bracelet like i said before in my previous review on the chronograph... is one of the best built- solid, comfortable to wear, top glass finishing!
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0028.jpg)
nothing special on the st steel caseback
but its nicely engraved
laser printed all necessary information and a temperature scale
of cause this series of ball is antimagnetic.... not up to iwc ingenieur and rolex milgauss spec... but good enough for daily use !
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0030.jpg)
the patented crown guard, ball engineer hydrocarbon trademark !
ball upgraded this on the spacemaster, no more long crown... but i prefer the old design, it look better and technically it function well
but heard the reason of upgrade is to reduce the crown length so that it wont touch your hand and cause the discomfort...
since i dont hv such problem so i just prefer the crown guard...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0033.jpg)
the date is relocated to 1 for allowing space for the thermometer at six... why not at 12? :Laughing_on_floor:
no big issue, but i just dont use to look at one.... its little small, left more space for the ball 1 hour marker tritium tube !
so a magnifier is fitted!
the dial is black finish roughly instead of mirror black... which i like... some like the sunshine engraved....
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0032.jpg)
the most important / highlight of this watch is this... the not really useful THERMOMETER
but who cares.... its unique !
and the index also has tritium lume... not sure how it was constructed !
looks like sandwich construction, meaning a layer of thin layer of tritium gas dial at bottom, a black index dial with opening on top!
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0625.jpg)
sorry for poor lume shot... my tripod is broken....
but for all the ball owner.... we all like tritium / h3 gas tube right?
i'm proud every time i walk into a cinema!
final words... another well built watch from ball... with the unique touch!
the titanium used on reducing the overall weight is + point to some ppl.... but i still like the a full steel case!
i've not time the watch so far... not a guy who measure my watch accuracy everyday!
i felt very satisfy with ball once again!
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0037.jpg)
PS - sorry i didnt wash the watch before i shoot it.... its bit dirty on the sapphire crystal, bracelet, caseback....because im too excited when i got it!
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Have u tried testing sub zero temperature with it? I wonder what will happen to mechanic watches when subjected to sub zero temperature. For quartz, the time will go haywire.
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Have u tried testing sub zero temperature with it? I wonder what will happen to mechanic watches when subjected to sub zero temperature. For quartz, the time will go haywire.
ball engineer hydrocarbon series watches used a different grade of oil.... so it can work till -40degree celcious
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What do you mean by not so useful thermometer?
Is it not accurate?
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What do you mean by not so useful thermometer?
Is it not accurate?
its accurate.... just mean not really useful to me since i stay in malaysia everyday now, temperature is same everyday!
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What do you mean by not so useful thermometer?
Is it not accurate?
its accurate.... just mean not really useful to me since i stay in malaysia everyday now, temperature is same everyday!
It will come in useful when you need to check the water temperature of the bath tub before you bath your baby. :thumbsup:
By the way great review, nice pics and good looking watch. Thanks for sharing.
:Cheers:
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i always like rubber strap.... finally find some times to change it on rubber! ( but i always find engineer hydrocarbon look better on bracelet!)
clean it brush and soap!
take some quick shot for sharing...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0084.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0085.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0087.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0090.jpg)
i didnt notice there is temperature scale on the ball rubber strap until now...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0089.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0088.jpg)
regarding the ball hand quality... it wasnt that bad... in fact is very very good !
but how good is good... nothing is that good when u use microscope to see it!
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0101.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0098.jpg)
ball actually have the best printed dial wording... but still how good when u look closely?
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0099.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0096.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0103.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0100.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0102.jpg)
even a small little hairline scratch is visible
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/ball%20engineer%20hydrocarbon%20tmt%20ti%20le/DSC_0108.jpg)
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Wow. Great macro shots. I think you must have used a microscope for some of the pics you posted. :thumbsup:
:Cheers:
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Wow. Great macro shots. I think you must have used a microscope for some of the pics you posted. :thumbsup:
:Cheers:
thanks... just 105mm macro lens + a japan made add on magnifier
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Wow. Great macro shots. I think you must have used a microscope for some of the pics you posted. :thumbsup:
:Cheers:
thanks... just 105mm macro lens + a japan made add on magnifier
It must be Raynox :D
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Yes! I forgot the name! It's raynox 250
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WOW...nice watch and sharp shot. :)
Yen,i find that you really like ball watch a lot... :)
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WOW...nice watch and sharp shot. :)
Yen,i find that you really like ball watch a lot... :)
thanks
yes, i like ball watches... but just hydrocarbon series only !
because
1. it look good overall
2. it has the best bracelet
3. at least 300m water resistant
4. unique crown guard
5. shock resistant to 7500gs
6. -40degree celcious endurance
7. best h3 gas tube
8. not over price
9. best finishing
10. anti magnetic
11. comfortable to wear
12. high resale value
i wish after i listed so many gd thing bout ball... ball will give me a watch free!
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Haha..I think ball company can hire you as their spokeperson.. :)
You convince me in getting one....
BTW,i heard ball watches price is going up and up as their watch is getting more attention.
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price goes up + sales goes up = good brand
this is what happen to panerai, rolex and other good brand...
and never see ball watches sell in grey...
alot of big brand (sensitive to mention here) ended up to grey when price goes up n sales is poor... AD will need cash!
remember i said those who bought fireman and old hydrocarbon those day...
check the pre owned price now... u will laugh... because your ball retain better value than rolex!
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Glad to know Ball is doing great :thumbsup: My 3 years old Fireman still going strong :Dancing_banana:
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s246/ongck77/DSCN0697-1.jpg)
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does the illumination last that long?
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does the illumination last that long?
it will last for 25 yrs.... but brightness will decrease after 12.5 years....
standard for tritium....
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This is one good looking watch and am surprised to hear about it's resale value.
Just curious, Do you know roughly how much % less is the resale value vs retail price?
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This is one good looking watch and am surprised to hear about it's resale value.
Just curious, Do you know roughly how much % less is the resale value vs retail price?
depend on models n condition... u can pm to discuss on price....
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Resell value for ball is acceptable still
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That is definitely a nice looking Ball.. :thumbsup: It looks good on both bracelet and rubber.
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Another great watch from Ball
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This is one good looking Ball watch and I am also surprised to hear about it's resale value as compared with other "established" brand.
A "rhyme pantun", I can think of :
This year is Euro 2012 football,
And the year I will think of Ball,
Many people don't have a clue,
On Ball's resale value.
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:thumbsup: to watchnewby
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lots of nice and detailed pictures :)
i'm a sucker for ball :D :D dream of it every night :Laughing_on_floor: kena poison d
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like the night view of this watch
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Beautiful shots. Is this a limited edition?
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Beautiful shots. Is this a limited edition?
Yes
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Great photo shoot,
I must learn how to that with my GF1,
I agreed with you, Ball is a good watch value for money, at the moment!
I have ceramic XV, aviator and fireman racer, all are unique, and you canNot find fake or replica on market.
By the way i like the rubber strap, any idea where i can get it in KL.?, my ceramic XV come only with SS strap.
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Great photo shoot,
I must learn how to that with my GF1,
I agreed with you, Ball is a good watch value for money, at the moment!
I have ceramic XV, aviator and fireman racer, all are unique, and you canNot find fake or replica on market.
By the way i like the rubber strap, any idea where i can get it in KL.?, my ceramic XV come only with SS strap.
I used GF1 as well but the macro was shot with d90 with sigma105maco lens + nissin di622
Except hydrocarbon series u need to get from AD, other series u can find any rubber strap as long as size fit... Red Axxx hv wide range... Ebxx Thai seller...
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I am Ball lover. Especially the Hydrocarbon series. This is 1 of the great Ball! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Great photo shoot,
I must learn how to that with my GF1,
I agreed with you, Ball is a good watch value for money, at the moment!
I have ceramic XV, aviator and fireman racer, all are unique, and you canNot find fake or replica on market.
By the way i like the rubber strap, any idea where i can get it in KL.?, my ceramic XV come only with SS strap.
agree...one of the reason I bought my fireman night train...because there is no replica in the market and non-watch lover not very familiar with the brand... ;D
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it could probably mean it is not popular (yet!) or plans r there but their product line is not ready :)
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yup...I do think Ball is not popular...at least, not yet...
But I prefer to buy watch that has chemistry with me...not because of popular brand... ;D
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I agree with u.
Most of the time the watch we like are the popular ones, that why they are popular,right? so, do we choose those we like less to be unique? :)
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not that I choose the one I like less just to be unique...
Just that sometimes what I like isn't the one that most of people like...
but of coz, what I like must be match with my wallet "size" to ensure I can get one... ;)
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Nice watch, why you say thermometer is not useful? msia has 4 seasons too, warm and warmer, humid and very humid :Laughing_on_floor:
Btw, where is the sensor located? Do you have to take out the watch to measure temperature? My friend told me Tissot has to take it out otherwise our wrist will affect its reading.
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Nice watch, why you say thermometer is not useful? msia has 4 seasons too, warm and warmer, humid and very humid :Laughing_on_floor:
Btw, where is the sensor located? Do you have to take out the watch to measure temperature? My friend told me Tissot has to take it out otherwise our wrist will affect its reading.
Not really.... I m quite cold blooded...
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I guess a mechanical thermometer is not as sensitive as a digital one. body heat might not have much effect. or chances are chris is cold blooded watch owner :)
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I'm not sure how accurate is the thermometer on Ball watches, but I do love the looks of the models with TMT...they look cool... 8)
Generally, I won't say mechanical thermometer is less sensitive nor less accurate compared to electronic thermometer...it just the final output that can be narrow down to few decimal places with electronic ones...but the fundamental of the mechanism is quite the same...
but in this case there is some possibility the thermometer is also receive some effect of body temperature of the wearer...depends on the location of the sensor...
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i always prefer the watch come with crown guard as I've bad experience previously...
Ball is my favorite time pieces..
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good write up! may i know the weight for this model?
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good write up! may i know the weight for this model?
Dunno
I wear with rubber, not that heavy... The case is titanium !!! Bracelet also at mix titanium
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Hi
Good review
I'm the proud owner of a new Ball Engineer Hydrocarbon Spacemaster and I love it
:Dancing_banana:
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:Cheers: wonderful watch u have there my friend i have never see this ball before.
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Great watch. This is really attractive looking watch. I must say that its features are great such as stainless steel and titanium case and bracelet with push button deployment clasp, water resistant up to 300m, swiss automatic movement.
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very very good and nice watch..
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Nice review..
I have a Ball Engineer TMT with rubber strap. Great daily use. What do u think about the new Ball BMW range?
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Nice review..
I have a Ball Engineer TMT with rubber strap. Great daily use. What do u think about the new Ball BMW range?
If u like the design
Y not
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Many Ball EHC TMT Ti LE photos here are no longer available.
I just try to help to start putting up mine here.
(http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17763.0;attach=7933;image)
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Hi sifus, looking to get a ball fireman series, but seems not much topic about Ball, any advice will be much appreciated:)