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Off Topic => Photography => Topic started by: chrisyen on September 22, 2011, 11:26:24 AM
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nikon just launch this mirrorless system with interchangeable lens camera.... but bit disappointed with the small sensor!
even smaller than the M43
so this will give a room to the coming Fuji X10 which also feature a smaller sensor than its big bro X100
but with fix zoom lens
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In terms of looks, the x100 & x10 both beat the Nikon.
I too am disappointed with Nikon using a smaller sensor. Why la...
Can't wait for a comparison review between the x10 & the Nikon 1.... ;D
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I think the mirrorless camera is the one I read in the net from the Nikkei publication.
See link : http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,3965.0.html
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In terms of looks, the x100 & x10 both beat the Nikon.
I too am disappointed with Nikon using a smaller sensor. Why la...
Can't wait for a comparison review between the x10 & the Nikon 1.... ;D
i think smaller sensor also help developing smaller lenses (more portable / compact lenses) ;) Eg, Sony Nex series, all new lenses produced to Sony Nex (E-mount) are big, i guess this is due to the big sensor... i remember i read somewhere talking about this.. if the lenses too big, it defeat the purpose of having smaller interchangable lens camera :) just my opinion la... have to see the real result..
btw, if you check out Pentax Q (the size is abt the credit card size) and using a 5.5 crop factor sensor (which mean, if 8mm will be come 40mm in a 35mm format) but produce good IQ ;) One of our member here own one, maybe he can share the files produced by Pentax Q here ;)
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Some countries have started getting their X10. Japanese owners have posted some
impressive photos on their blogs
this link is to a portugese owner very detail report. enjoy
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://ztop.com.br/2011/10/24/hands-on-fujifilm-finepix-x10/&ei=NKymTs7iHYHj0QG0goz6DQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CG8Q7gEwBzgK&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfujifilm%2Bx10%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1680%26bih%3D937%26tbs%3Dqdr:d%26prmd%3Dimvns
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i think smaller sensor also help developing smaller lenses (more portable / compact lenses) ;) Eg, Sony Nex series, all new lenses produced to Sony Nex (E-mount) are big, i guess this is due to the big sensor... i remember i read somewhere talking about this.. if the lenses too big, it defeat the purpose of having smaller interchangable lens camera :) just my opinion la... have to see the real result..
i dont really understand, the leica lens is so small nia
the sigma dp series lens also tiny only
even the rigoh gxr lens also not really big
so i dont really understand
is it due to mirrorless so the lens got to be bigger?
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Am thinking to get a compact to complement my SLR and looks like the battle ground is getting more and more crowded as each day goes. The quality is getting from great to super too!
Bought my wife the S95 and that is quite a joy to use but I need one of my own because lugging a big camera everywhere is tedious. Heard the new S100 would be out anytime soon.
It's great that there are more choices in this category but also confusing at the same time. Being a A-mount user, waiting for the Nex-7 also sounds enticing with so much adaptors to choose from and also not to mention continue use of my current lenses. But guess the size factor and weight factor comes into this equation again.
But all in a pro compact still might not give me the same level of detail that a SLR would give. On the flip side compacts gives moderately great photos with the ease of convenience.
What would u guys think? Get a good pro compact or stay in the interchangeable lens system albeit in a smaller body.
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Am thinking to get a compact to complement my SLR and looks like the battle ground is getting more and more crowded as each day goes. The quality is getting from great to super too!
Bought my wife the S95 and that is quite a joy to use but I need one of my own because lugging a big camera everywhere is tedious. Heard the new S100 would be out anytime soon.
It's great that there are more choices in this category but also confusing at the same time. Being a A-mount user, waiting for the Nex-7 also sounds enticing with so much adaptors to choose from and also not to mention continue use of my current lenses. But guess the size factor and weight factor comes into this equation again.
But all in a pro compact still might not give me the same level of detail that a SLR would give. On the flip side compacts gives moderately great photos with the ease of convenience.
What would u guys think? Get a good pro compact or stay in the interchangeable lens system albeit in a smaller body.
Well, one has to ask oneself, if he/she needs a cam (whether a compact or a dSLR) for what purpose (other than to take pictures). Is it to take pictures for one's blog, or just "suka-suka" take pictures on daily happening, or potrait-taking, or taking macro world of insect and plants, or birding etc.
If one is a fashion photographer or a wedding photog or a nature photog, a dSLR with appropriate lenses is the way to go.
If one is like me, has a 9-6pm office job, and only do photography as a hobby, a compact + a dSLR with the basic kitlens will suffice. The compact is for daily thingy like children photos, colleagues birthday photo, site visits, holiday travels etc. The dSLR is for more serious stuff like nature (landscape) when I go jungle/hill trekking/hiking or mountain climbing. I remember I lug a tripod, 3 lenses, 1 dSLR and 1 SLR with 3 roll of films when I first ascend Mt Kinabalu.
Your question "Get a good pro compact or stay in the interchangeable lens system albeit in a smaller body" - my advice to you is get both(which I think you currently have them) unless you do not wish to continue with the dSLR. Nowadays there are compact with interchangeble lens available in the market, so this may be the one you are looking for.
Cheers.
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Your question "Get a good pro compact or stay in the interchangeable lens system albeit in a smaller body" - my advice to you is get both(which I think you currently have them) unless you do not wish to continue with the dSLR. Nowadays there are compact with interchangeble lens available in the market, so this may be the one you are looking for.
Cheers.
Hahah ;D so I guess u are telling me compact with interchangeable lens = get the NEX 7?
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If that is within your means and that is the one you are looking for (just like when you are searching for your grail watch), why not? Ha. Ha. ;D
As for me, I am using compact for everyday activities in areas where picture-taking is needed. And since I have my old SLR lenses and do not wish to change them I just got myself a used dSLR body to complement with them.
Cheers.
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Jacky will bring his XZ-1 this weekend to the GTG, quite a nifty little performer.
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Jacky will bring his XZ-1 this weekend to the GTG, quite a nifty little performer.
:thumbsup: yeah love that lil' chilling chilli Padi of a camera.
Damn you auto correct!!!!!!!!!! :Scolding:
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Fuji X10 - Never knew rust can be so beautiful.
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://image.yodobashi.com/catalog/magazine/20111022-003/index.html&usg=ALkJrhhQnBwH764Y-oU4hw6rGGy7NTBWdQ
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some people have the time and interest to do this ie compare sizes
http://di-sign.org/size2.jpg
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some people have the time and interest to do this ie compare sizes
http://di-sign.org/size2.jpg
Cool!!! :thumbsup:
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X10 review by DP is out.
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilmx10/
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I must be annoying people with my X10 links so this will be the last.
These are some of the sharpest pics. I have seen. Shows what the X10 is
capable of. Have a look
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1012&thread=39710826
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Thanks watchtime for the link.
Dpreview is one of the link I frequent most if I want to get information on cam. hardware and spec.s.
BTW, you are not "annoying", but helpful.
Have a good week ahead.
Cheers.
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For those interested, the X10 will be available next week. RM 2288.00 with
original leather case.
A nice pussy cat shot with X10.
http://joannebalchin.zenfolio.com/img/s11/v37/p1052250569-6.jpg
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That is some pussy cat shot, watchtime.
It is very clear and can see the detail line of its face.
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Some shops have started selling X10 since yesterday. Fotokem have sold all their stock it seems
despite selling at full RRP and no ori case plus only 8 gb class 4 card.
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I believe this is the current trend now. Wait 2 months later another model from same or different brand will take the market lead.
Also depends on the buyer profile. What they need in a digi. cam for.
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Review on the Nikon 1:
http://nl.asia.cnet.com/7F2H4GDBcG/atjnH
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play with x10 for a while...not bad and the macro now come with "Super macro" and AF definitely faster then X100 ;)
but still don't think will get one...
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play with x10 for a while...not bad and the macro now come with "Super macro" and AF definitely faster then X100 ;)
but still don't think will get one...
Mind to tell why?
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play with x10 for a while...not bad and the macro now come with "Super macro" and AF definitely faster then X100 ;)
but still don't think will get one...
Mind to tell why?
why not getting one? because i got too many camera la~~ kakakakak
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but then again, x10 not bad really, image quality is as good as x100 (not able to compare by downloading the file to laptop but from the LCD la)... high ISO at 3200 looks very nice.... nice noticeable at 6400 but still usable..
the macro mode improve a lot... retail around RM2100 which i think not too bad... the viewfinder provide less info, you can't see ISO, Aperture and shutter speed on the view finder if i'm not mistaken... maybe can but i might miss the setting... better go try out yourself if keen to get one ;)
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think it's just a simple VF
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Thanks for the input....
i'm still waiting for the interchangeable lens model come out from fujifilm.
Let's see what's the price range, i just need a camera which is good to go around...
currently still using my Olympus E-P1, need a replacement... but still doing my research...
don't want buy liao regret :P
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Thanks for the input....
i'm still waiting for the interchangeable lens model come out from fujifilm.
Let's see what's the price range, i just need a camera which is good to go around...
currently still using my Olympus E-P1, need a replacement... but still doing my research...
don't want buy liao regret :P
Maybe worth going to EP3 since you already have some lenses for Olympus? if new camera body you might end up buying new lenses for the new body.... a lot good lenses out there for m4/3 body ;)
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my E-P1 still working good, that's why i am still keep looking lol....
maybe should just keep using it first.
:laugh:
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can't resist the poison.... What to do??
So, i ordered Fujifilm x10 ::)
what made me order this camera?
1. magnesium body
2. Retro design
3. super macro at 1cm
4. better than nothing OVF
5. Fujinon lens with new OIS
6. 28-112mm f2.0-2.8 manual zoom lens
7. New EXR CMOS sensor
8. Usable high ISO
While i place order for my fujifilm X10, my wife want a Sony NEX-5N twin lens.
so, Christmas gift for her and myself. ;D
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Received my Fujifilm X10.
Just managed to play for few minutes and need to charge the battery.
What's my first impression;
- Very Solid build. (best in P&S camera? better than some entry level DSLR i think)
- Manual zoom lens, it work better than motorized one.
- fast optical lens f/2.0 at 28mm, f/2.8 at 112mm.
- mechanical optical viewfinder, it zoom with the lens together.
- impressive high ISO performance on this tiny sensor.
- with many buttons access to basic setting, WB, AF/MF, AF-C/AE-C, AE, RAW... etc. (i found dedicated RAW button is nice, cause i normally shoot jpeg, with Medium fine, when a scene needed RAW, just with 1 button click)
- build in flash is nice for fill flash, but not strong enough for the dark. (high ISO with fill flash will do the work)
- what else? ::) will update when i found out more. ;D
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Fuji coming a new model with interchangeable lens...can't wait.
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can't resist the poison.... What to do??
So, i ordered Fujifilm x10 ::)
what made me order this camera?
1. magnesium body
2. Retro design
3. super macro at 1cm
4. better than nothing OVF
5. Fujinon lens with new OIS
6. 28-112mm f2.0-2.8 manual zoom lens
7. New EXR CMOS sensor
8. Usable high ISO
While i place order for my fujifilm X10, my wife want a Sony NEX-5N twin lens.
so, Christmas gift for her and myself. ;D
Silverstan,
I am currently considering the 2 cameras that u mentioned
Since u say u got the x10 for urself and the sony nex-5n for your wife, i take it that te x10 is geared for pros while the nex-5n is more for beginners?
Price wise, x10 is on the cheaper side at around 2k while the nex-5n twin lens set will set you back around 3k.
I like the feel of the nex-5n... and since you say you're getting it for your wife... Am I buying a sissy camera? lol
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Hi Hanz079,
don't say sony nex-5n is a sissy camera lol.
It perform really well, APS-C sensor, slim & style design.
both are different camera, i get X10 because it already packed with f/2.0-2.8 28-112mm zoom lens.
it's my carrying around camera, it's consider P&S camera.
Nex-5N is APS-C sensor, with interchangeable lenses. that's the camera my wife want, because it's 'popular' lol.
Play with my wife's NEX-5N, it really handle very well.
but one thing about NEX-5N what i don't like is, everything have to access to menu to adjust.
Overall it's still good camera.
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The nex series are very versatile with a multitude of adaptors for other makes of lenses to choose from.
Tried on one 5 with a vintage Skopar lens and is very impressed with the handling experience and photo quality. The camera belongs to one of the personnel in Wotancraft. It's has very fun and quirky attributes and unique handling/operation techniques to boot :)
If you've a very inquisitive mind and experimental streak, the nex series is very fun to play with and have quite an infinite possibilities IMHO
Still waiting to have try the Nex 7
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I already locked on on the nex-5n, not too sure about it being the popular camera.
I might go ahead and gasak the macro lens as well.
The sony centre fellow was nice enough to let me try all i wanna try and needless to say, i find the camera really nice and lots of things to play with and discover.
As terrence2 said, i hope this camera can divert my attention away from more expensive ventures like watches for at least a couple of months.
Since i have zero knowledge on camera stuff, i hope this camera can jumpstart my learning process... I have read around that this is a camera for beginners but if at the hands of a pro, can produce some wonderful pics...
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The nex series are very versatile with a multitude of adaptors for other makes of lenses to choose from.
Tried on one 5 with a vintage Skopar lens and is very impressed with the handling experience and photo quality. The camera belongs to one of the personnel in Wotancraft. It's has very fun and quirky attributes and unique handling/operation techniques to boot :)
If you've a very inquisitive mind and experimental streak, the nex series is very fun to play with and have quite an infinite possibilities IMHO
Still waiting to have try the Nex 7
Was that the one you were 'playing' with at Wotancraft? The one with the unique focusing system? Really cool.
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I already locked on on the nex-5n, not too sure about it being the popular camera.
I might go ahead and gasak the macro lens as well.
The sony centre fellow was nice enough to let me try all i wanna try and needless to say, i find the camera really nice and lots of things to play with and discover.
As terrence2 said, i hope this camera can divert my attention away from more expensive ventures like watches for at least a couple of months.
Since i have zero knowledge on camera stuff, i hope this camera can jumpstart my learning process... I have read around that this is a camera for beginners but if at the hands of a pro, can produce some wonderful pics...
Photography is all bout the brain behind the camera, camera is just a tools. ;D
Try search in youtube, "pro photographer cheap camera challenge"
It's fun to see how those pro use cheap camera to get good pictures.
try to read those basic photography tips online first, at least you have idea what is Aperture, Shutter, ISO. How's one related to each other.
Skip those pixel & noise comparison, it's nothing to do with photography.
;D
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Yeah, that's the one :laugh:
Really cool, the way the lens focusses and how it shows on the screen. But one minor gripe about the 5 is that the lack of dedicated function buttons as most ppl have noted. But that is where the 7 comes into play.
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Yeah, that's the one :laugh:
Really cool, the way the lens focusses and how it shows on the screen. But one minor gripe about the 5 is that the lack of dedicated function buttons as most ppl have noted. But that is where the 7 comes into play.
It's call focus peaking ;) It's really helps a lot when using manual lenses :Cheers:
Love my Nex-3 (old version) using on Leica M lenses :thumbsup:
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I already locked on on the nex-5n, not too sure about it being the popular camera.
I might go ahead and gasak the macro lens as well.
The sony centre fellow was nice enough to let me try all i wanna try and needless to say, i find the camera really nice and lots of things to play with and discover.
As terrence2 said, i hope this camera can divert my attention away from more expensive ventures like watches for at least a couple of months.
Since i have zero knowledge on camera stuff, i hope this camera can jumpstart my learning process... I have read around that this is a camera for beginners but if at the hands of a pro, can produce some wonderful pics...
Photography is all bout the brain behind the camera, camera is just a tools. ;D
Try search in youtube, "pro photographer cheap camera challenge"
It's fun to see how those pro use cheap camera to get good pictures.
try to read those basic photography tips online first, at least you have idea what is Aperture, Shutter, ISO. How's one related to each other.
Skip those pixel & noise comparison, it's nothing to do with photography.
;D
Yeah, I realized that too, but without a camera that at least have some functions and options to play with... it's very much a point and shoot affair.
Anyway, I just picked up the nex-5n like 5 minutes ago.
Twin lens kit and I bought the macro lens as well. :Cheers:
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Congratulation Hanz079, expect you will share more pics here! :Cheers:
macro lens = more close up pic for your watch. :Laughing_on_floor:
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Can't stop fiddling with it though...
I guess I will ask more questions regarding photography mumbo jumbo from now on... lol
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/9f78ac9c.jpg)
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/66153c1d.jpg)
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Don't worry, many sifu here sure will share their experience. Just like how they share their experience and knowledge with watch. :thumbsup: