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Title: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: The Middle Man on April 29, 2022, 02:21:12 PM
If u aware, Tudor watches are getting harder to get, especially the newly launch model, all under waiting list. If u happened to go to Pavilion and Mid valley, check out Tudor boutique, they nearly have non for sales especially the black bay range.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: Lee84 on April 29, 2022, 09:28:31 PM
Pre-owned and unworn units are quite a lot in the market.. problem is much lower than the retailed price.. thats still hesitated me on this.. haha
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: The Middle Man on April 30, 2022, 02:41:23 PM
Depends on which model actually, Tudor 2nd hand value consider very good compared to other brand.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: pleasuresaurus on May 03, 2022, 12:37:46 AM
For now Tudor still ok la I think, despite some appearance of its big brother's hype. The new releases would take a bit longer to deliver, but otherwise a wait of about a month or less for other models. Besides, there's a decent secondary market that seems priced reasonably with some wiggle room for nego.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: bulletnos on May 03, 2022, 07:38:22 PM
Pre-owned and unworn units are quite a lot in the market.. problem is much lower than the retailed price.. thats still hesitated me on this.. haha

If buy to wear, then as long as it sings to you, just go for it since you dont have the immediate intention of reselling. Of course, if you need to resell later to make way for other stuff then at least Tudor can get a decent resale value - though dont expect profits.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: ray6969 on May 05, 2022, 08:33:15 AM
Pre-owned and unworn units are quite a lot in the market.. problem is much lower than the retailed price.. thats still hesitated me on this.. haha

If buy to wear, then as long as it sings to you, just go for it since you dont have the immediate intention of reselling. Of course, if you need to resell later to make way for other stuff then at least Tudor can get a decent resale value - though dont expect profits.

I agreed with you brother, watch enthusiasts is all about horology and Tudor is good for values for money. Unless upgrade your collection to others timepiece. If you a scalper/professional flipper that is another story.   
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: W3ll on May 05, 2022, 09:59:45 AM
Pre-owned and unworn units are quite a lot in the market.. problem is much lower than the retailed price.. thats still hesitated me on this.. haha

Why the hesitation? If you can get one piece at the secondary market at "much" lower price, isn't that a great deal?
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: bulletnos on May 05, 2022, 12:58:54 PM
Pre-owned and unworn units are quite a lot in the market.. problem is much lower than the retailed price.. thats still hesitated me on this.. haha

If buy to wear, then as long as it sings to you, just go for it since you dont have the immediate intention of reselling. Of course, if you need to resell later to make way for other stuff then at least Tudor can get a decent resale value - though dont expect profits.

I agreed with you brother, watch enthusiasts is all about horology and Tudor is good for values for money. Unless upgrade your collection to others timepiece. If you a scalper/professional flipper that is another story.   

Lol…”upgrade collection” is always a problem for watch enthusiasts… :HammerHead: :Dancing_banana:

Btw, ive got AD’s who offer Tudor Black Bay - certain models la…even at discount…I dont see how it is becoming scarce. Of course, “hot” models like the new BB Pro on bracelet will be susah la…but all of which with some patience, should be able to get new in time. Within a few months usually.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: bulletnos on May 05, 2022, 01:00:14 PM
For now Tudor still ok la I think, despite some appearance of its big brother's hype. The new releases would take a bit longer to deliver, but otherwise a wait of about a month or less for other models. Besides, there's a decent secondary market that seems priced reasonably with some wiggle room for nego.

What he said!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: ray6969 on May 05, 2022, 01:33:51 PM
Pre-owned and unworn units are quite a lot in the market.. problem is much lower than the retailed price.. thats still hesitated me on this.. haha

If buy to wear, then as long as it sings to you, just go for it since you dont have the immediate intention of reselling. Of course, if you need to resell later to make way for other stuff then at least Tudor can get a decent resale value - though dont expect profits.

I agreed with you brother, watch enthusiasts is all about horology and Tudor is good for values for money. Unless upgrade your collection to others timepiece. If you a scalper/professional flipper that is another story.   

Lol…”upgrade collection” is always a problem for watch enthusiasts… :HammerHead: :Dancing_banana:

Btw, ive got AD’s who offer Tudor Black Bay - certain models la…even at discount…I dont see how it is becoming scarce. Of course, “hot” models like the new BB Pro on bracelet will be susah la…but all of which with some patience, should be able to get new in time. Within a few months usually.

Tudor didn't sing for me, Look promising but maybe no for me. Did try but bit big :mooning:

Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: treasureplanetmy on May 07, 2022, 06:41:04 PM
Now even for the Tudor FXD, you need a purchase history or risk being on ’waitlist’ apparently.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: TrueLemon on May 08, 2022, 07:08:41 PM
Only the very popular models requires being on the waitlist. My local AD does have a Black Bay 36mm ready stock, which I think is an underrated watch relative to the BB58. It's definitely part of my shortlist of next watch to get.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: dpkong on May 09, 2022, 09:30:10 AM

Tudor does have some interesting pieces but so far any hyped release will eventually be available at retail or less.. The quality is very much what you expect from a Rolex, robust and reliable, most of the time...  but it would not attain the desirability like Rolex because there is always a little quirk in the design of each piece... it's as if Tudor is a playground to test ideas and materials before Rolex takes a serious look at it.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: W3ll on May 10, 2022, 03:07:48 PM
Now even for the Tudor FXD, you need a purchase history or risk being on ’waitlist’ apparently.

Really? was checking it out 1 month ago and no mention of any purchase history needed,  just saying if really interested and willing to wait they are able to allocate on in within 3 months
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: dpkong on May 10, 2022, 06:42:45 PM
Now even for the Tudor FXD, you need a purchase history or risk being on ’waitlist’ apparently.

Really? was checking it out 1 month ago and no mention of any purchase history needed,  just saying if really interested and willing to wait they are able to allocate on in within 3 months

being a recent release, it may take a while to satisfy initial demand but no reason why this would be a difficult piece to get.. personally I would go with the Pelagos as the price is not much more, you get a date and titanium bracelet as well..
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: Ckyap on June 25, 2022, 10:32:39 AM
just my opinion,Tudor will try to create more awareness and increase the value by add in more celebrities & superstar as brand ambassadors.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: G.MAC on June 26, 2022, 07:21:13 PM
The brand will remain as it is. The watch buying trend will determine if newer models are more readily available to watch collectors. If you look at the older hot models such as the Black Bay GMT Pepsi, prices are more now attractive compared to a few years back.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: c4all on June 28, 2022, 06:22:16 PM
I would think that Tudor offers excellent watches thus driving the demand for them. However, I would agree that it would be a monumental effort from the brand and the market for it to come out from being known as the "little brother to Rolex" even after a few years.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: bc40 on October 22, 2022, 08:22:54 AM
I think it looks too much like a copycat of Rolex to do well
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: qhy500 on January 10, 2023, 10:21:28 PM
It'll become a Rolex homage brand, especially considering their relationship.

Think they'll keep their price point 'accessible' still so people can buy watches that looks kinda like Rolex for a lot lower. Look at their recent Ranger and Pelagos 39 release.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: avaxis on January 10, 2023, 11:00:53 PM
Keep their prices? Price just went up in Jan 2023. I admire Tudor for doing its own thing like the North Flag, but it seems the market wants a Rolex little brother… so I guess they just fulfill the market demand…

Calling it a Rolex homage is.. a bit mean. That’s like saying little brother is a homage to elder brother. They both have the same father after all.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: superamd on January 11, 2023, 07:59:25 AM
Recently just went to Tudor Midvalley, seems like those hot models are still out of stock. To add on, price has increase again in 2023. Looks like Tudor is doing pretty well. 
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: avaxis on January 11, 2023, 09:15:22 AM
It is out of stock, but not impossible to get at retail prices. Just wait for 2 months or so. But there won't be any discounts!
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: superamd on January 11, 2023, 01:49:06 PM
yup.. no discount at all. that was what the SA told me.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 13, 2023, 07:55:45 AM
slightly off topic, but i do wonder though....

prices are going up and this scarcity thing seems to me quite artificial. what happens later in the year when recession really gets acknowledged and markets drop further, leading to demand and discretionary spending going down with it?

Do these companies stick with the price tag and just destroy surplus stock end of the season? do they dump onto the secondary market? do they sneakily tell their ADs its ok to give more than 15% discount?
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: dpkong on January 13, 2023, 09:44:38 AM
slightly off topic, but i do wonder though....

prices are going up and this scarcity thing seems to me quite artificial. what happens later in the year when recession really gets acknowledged and markets drop further, leading to demand and discretionary spending going down with it?

Do these companies stick with the price tag and just destroy surplus stock end of the season? do they dump onto the secondary market? do they sneakily tell their ADs its ok to give more than 15% discount?

I think discounts on Tudor depends on the model and who you're dealing with.

While browsing the ADs at Pavillion, the SA are mostly cocky and snobbishly rub off any idea of a discount but the one I got my blue Pelagos still gave me a little off.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: avaxis on January 13, 2023, 11:59:20 AM
slightly off topic, but i do wonder though....

prices are going up and this scarcity thing seems to me quite artificial. what happens later in the year when recession really gets acknowledged and markets drop further, leading to demand and discretionary spending going down with it?

Do these companies stick with the price tag and just destroy surplus stock end of the season? do they dump onto the secondary market? do they sneakily tell their ADs its ok to give more than 15% discount?

I think discounts on Tudor depends on the model and who you're dealing with.

While browsing the ADs at Pavillion, the SA are mostly cocky and snobbishly rub off any idea of a discount but the one I got my blue Pelagos still gave me a little off.

 :thumbsup:

Normal Pelagos, or the Pelagos 39?
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: avaxis on January 13, 2023, 12:52:45 PM
slightly off topic, but i do wonder though....

prices are going up and this scarcity thing seems to me quite artificial. what happens later in the year when recession really gets acknowledged and markets drop further, leading to demand and discretionary spending going down with it?

Do these companies stick with the price tag and just destroy surplus stock end of the season? do they dump onto the secondary market? do they sneakily tell their ADs its ok to give more than 15% discount?

For Tudor, I think it’ll just be business as usual. Maybe no wait at all, and some discount. Instead of having waiting list. Tudor has been doing better and better since they came back. Launching pieces that people want. I doubt they need to go to the path of destroying stock. I don’t think Rolex will be back in stock anytime soon at ADs.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: qhy500 on January 14, 2023, 12:43:03 PM
Yeah agree, I think even with the recession demand will still be more than supply, but if it corrects itself, they'll probably let SA give a little discount to get things moving
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: dpkong on January 15, 2023, 09:48:59 PM

Normal Pelagos, or the Pelagos 39?


42mm blue
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: colnagolover on April 10, 2023, 06:08:29 PM
Tudor new launches last 2-3 years has been rather exciting - it is like a little secret where Rolex can test and do things they cannot with their main brand and push the envelope further. I will say in a few years down the line - the undercurrent for Tudor will be the hot new thing when wearing a Rolex can become either too much or too dangerous. It's a beater watch that you can go around and not get too much attention or mistaken for the expensive cousin.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: qhy500 on April 11, 2023, 02:41:53 PM
The watches they released from watches and wonders kinda shows how they can do their own thing away from Rolex, like releasing the BB54 with a 37mm dial for a diver.

But then they also released a Tudor with a jubilee bracelet so maybe still a rolex homage brand?


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Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: colnagolover on April 11, 2023, 04:25:20 PM
i sense Tudor is stamping out its own unique identity and not the cheaper Rolex as it was known in the past. So it can move around freely in sizing, materials and also going back to the older Rolex design , in short very experimental and bold - Rolex is becoming institution but the Tudor is the exciting frontier ahead.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: dremon69 on April 19, 2023, 07:14:37 PM
Tudor is indeed a high quality watch, in the past Rolex was innovative / taking more risks to try ‘things’ more creative than their classic line Rolex,  for the last 10 years their reissues trend show a lack of creativity/ new image appeal;
Surfing on their past models was nice for a while…
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: jbboy12 on April 25, 2023, 09:29:34 PM
Insane times. You used to be able to walk into Tudor and get a Black Bay with the your colour choice. Perhaps they are replicating big brother's sales tactic.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: hksauce on April 29, 2023, 04:44:44 AM
i think recession or not, the demand will be here to stay in the long run. Rolex prices will go up and stabilize as they ramp up capacity to catch up with demand, but that also means that Tudor will follow suit. As long as there as people like you and me who will dish out the dough to put little fancy clocks on our wrists, the market will be around.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: dpkong on April 29, 2023, 11:35:39 AM
We all know Rolex makes about a million watches per year. Not sure how many Tudor makes.

At the population growth rate and as brand awareness grows, demand will always exceed supply. So it’s safe to assume both brands will grow stronger and continue to be strong value propositions to new buyers as well.

Although there have been reports of boost in production capacities, the market will still be strong for both brands. More so if you consider that Rolex models are still relatively low priced compared to most other major brands.
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: lebasi on May 16, 2023, 06:13:28 PM
walked in to Harrods in 2022. asked about the BB Harrods and was told the usual long waiting list story. we exchanged numbers. 2 weeks later, he texted me and said they had a cancellation and so my watch is ready to be collected. Told him to hold for me for another 2 weeks and he did.

Artificial wait list? Up to you to decide.

Anyway, once it's on my wrist it doesn't look nor feel as what I was expecting (only had experience with a Pelagos LHD, which was equally disappointing as well).
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: dpkong on May 17, 2023, 11:24:21 AM
walked in to Harrods in 2022. asked about the BB Harrods and was told the usual long waiting list story. we exchanged numbers. 2 weeks later, he texted me and said they had a cancellation and so my watch is ready to be collected. Told him to hold for me for another 2 weeks and he did.

Artificial wait list? Up to you to decide.

Anyway, once it's on my wrist it doesn't look nor feel as what I was expecting (only had experience with a Pelagos LHD, which was equally disappointing as well).


I think buyers are passing over Tudor faster than the Rolex queues. The flipping profit is no longer there. Every Tudor model that was hyped before and during initial release have come down to below retail price after a few months.

Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: hoho1111 on September 19, 2023, 06:53:50 PM
I think Tudor will still be under Rolex and will always be. Love that brand but can’t justify myself to buying one yet
Title: Re: What do u think Tudor will become in few years time
Post by: Vicc8433 on October 12, 2023, 05:41:40 PM
I think Tudor will still be under the shadow of Rolex, even though they tried to come out of it


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