Post by: Cocas on April 22, 2020, 01:00:23 PM
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Post by: Caseywai on April 24, 2020, 04:54:42 PM
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Post by: strinq on April 24, 2020, 06:09:14 PM
So I think they decided to capitalize on it. Only the highest end from their catalogue now are still available.
Post by: Cocas on May 25, 2020, 12:01:42 PM
Always produce one car less than the market demand.
Post by: Varma8 on May 25, 2020, 03:07:25 PM
Nonetheless, I think their watches definitely have a certain appeal. The design and craftsmanship definitely feels worth the rrp.
And being featured in hodinkee and other watch sites boosted them up and not to forget our own Mwf ;)
Post by: chenht on May 25, 2020, 09:11:37 PM
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Post by: dennis.T on June 12, 2020, 09:06:21 PM
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Post by: dpkong on June 16, 2020, 08:51:18 PM
With that price i rather buy a different watch
when people start off with watches, they buy the well known brands for "resale value" and maybe also limited funds.
as you get older and have more liquidity and you already own a lot of "investment" watches, then you start looking at brands like these and begin to admire and value them for what they are....
Post by: Cocas on August 08, 2020, 08:20:48 AM
I timed how fast it was sold out this time. This time it's less than 7minutes. ;D
Post by: Cocas on August 08, 2020, 08:27:34 AM
Its value now shoots up more than double.
I start understand why people says you can buy any Rxxxx if you rich enough but not the special small production run independent watch brands.
Post by: bane on August 08, 2020, 09:24:53 AM
Having said that, I didn’t like the 18.01 h41 yesterday. Hope they go back to the original design that was so sought after.
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Post by: Potential_Highlight on August 27, 2020, 10:15:00 PM
They are literally playing the artificial scarcity game
“The profit is thin because we use high-quality components to manufacture our watches. We also put a cap on the number of each product sold to retain their value. We made a promise to our customers and we are following through on it,” says Ming.
Source:
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/entrepreneurship-taking-swiss
He went on to say, they knew they can easily sell another 3,000 pieces
They just chose not to produce and sell another 3,000 pieces, in order to "maintain the value" of the watch
Basically creating artificial scarcity
Post by: dennis.T on October 11, 2020, 07:00:00 PM
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Post by: pleasuresaurus on October 12, 2020, 12:28:26 PM
Post by: memphisto on October 14, 2020, 07:10:03 AM
Post by: dpkong on October 14, 2020, 07:35:14 AM
The real question is can the hype and demand sustain?
if the numbers are really low, it's possible
Post by: memphisto on October 14, 2020, 09:52:58 AM
Post by: shzrn on October 14, 2020, 12:05:46 PM
Post by: dennis.T on October 14, 2020, 03:20:55 PM
This is the same business model as Supreme, keep the supply low, get some well known faces rocking them. Hypebeast much?this is not good example... the good example is Richard Mille...rare and expensive :Laughing_on_floor:
Post by: shzrn on October 15, 2020, 02:38:39 PM
This is the same business model as Supreme, keep the supply low, get some well known faces rocking them. Hypebeast much?this is not good example... the good example is Richard Mille...rare and expensive :Laughing_on_floor:
Same same but different. Hype and perceived exclusivity drive the market.
Post by: Potential_Highlight on October 15, 2020, 02:49:49 PM
The real question is can the hype and demand sustain?It's basically like a pyramid scheme
The success of this strategy depends on one thing - continuously expanding the base
The moment there isn't anymore fresh meat that can be added to the base, the whole thing collapses
So as long as they can keep the secondary market strong, by convincing people to seek out and buy their watches, the whole thing will keep chugging along like a nice little train
In the end, like all pyramid schemes, those who got in early and cashed out early will be the ones to profit. You don't want to be the last batch of buyers, holding onto the watches once the hype train has died down
Post by: strinq on October 15, 2020, 03:09:01 PM
The real question is can the hype and demand sustain?It's basically like a pyramid scheme
The success of this strategy depends on one thing - continuously expanding the base
The moment there isn't anymore fresh meat that can be added to the base, the whole thing collapses
So as long as they can keep the secondary market strong, by convincing people to seek out and buy their watches, the whole thing will keep chugging along like a nice little train
In the end, like all pyramid schemes, those who got in early and cashed out early will be the ones to profit. You don't want to be the last batch of buyers, holding onto the watches once the hype train has died down
I guess this rings true for those who are actually in it for profit.
There are some who really are in it because they love the watches also, and for those, it's already a worthy investment.
I'm just a little sad that this is the only home grown brand and its so unobtainable for so many.
Wish that there is a home grown brand that produces more affordable watches. Too bad I don't have the means to do so or I would seriously consider investing in one.
Post by: Potential_Highlight on October 16, 2020, 10:48:04 AM
Well, if the brand was about for the love of watches, they wouldn't have played the artificial scarcity gameThe real question is can the hype and demand sustain?It's basically like a pyramid scheme
The success of this strategy depends on one thing - continuously expanding the base
The moment there isn't anymore fresh meat that can be added to the base, the whole thing collapses
So as long as they can keep the secondary market strong, by convincing people to seek out and buy their watches, the whole thing will keep chugging along like a nice little train
In the end, like all pyramid schemes, those who got in early and cashed out early will be the ones to profit. You don't want to be the last batch of buyers, holding onto the watches once the hype train has died down
I guess this rings true for those who are actually in it for profit.
There are some who really are in it because they love the watches also, and for those, it's already a worthy investment.
I'm just a little sad that this is the only home grown brand and its so unobtainable for so many.
Wish that there is a home grown brand that produces more affordable watches. Too bad I don't have the means to do so or I would seriously consider investing in one.
They would produce enough so that watch lovers who want one could get one
But by virtue of intentionally producing fewer watches than there is demand right from the beginning, they've already signaled that their brand is about cashing in on watch hype
Post by: pleasuresaurus on October 16, 2020, 04:06:06 PM
Post by: memphisto on October 16, 2020, 07:38:01 PM
Post by: tllee4567 on October 23, 2020, 02:27:28 PM
Ming watches fit into these 2 categories and one needs to get hold of a Ming piece and see the quality of materials used and the finishing on the movements to really appreciate the attention and enthusiasm put into making them "great value for money". I strongly urge you to get hold of a Ming watch and see for yourself the actual piece and then make your comments positively or negatively.
As an owner of Ming watches and a personal friend of Ming, I think what he is doing is really showcasing what he likes and make this conceptual ideas into production pieces to enable us as collectors to have a chance to like the watches as well. A lot of thoughts and user-centric details are put into his timepieces and you will appreciate them once you get your hand on one of them to see it in person. They are really what I would call "collectors' pieces" as I don't think anyone will buy Ming watches as his/her 1st watch.
Just sharing my views and no offense intended to anyone. TGIF!!! ;) ;) ;)
Post by: fitri on November 02, 2020, 08:32:45 PM
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Post by: tllee4567 on November 09, 2020, 07:51:35 PM
Awesome auction results for Ming Watch from the just concluded Phillips Auction in Geneva.
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Post by: Cocas on November 09, 2020, 09:52:43 PM
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Awesome auction results for Ming Watch from the just concluded Phillips Auction in Geneva.
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Congrats Ming watch. You really make Msian proud. :thumbsup:
Post by: strinq on November 12, 2020, 02:33:52 PM
As a Malaysian I would love to support it and I do like their design. Their recently launched diver is gorgeous in my books.
But it's way out of reach of most Malaysians.
Post by: Cocas on November 12, 2020, 06:11:11 PM
I did that for the diving watch and I even have about 3 minutes wondering which watch to choose, rubber strap or bracelet.
I missed out 27.01 and regretted for not paying attention to the launch time.
Post by: strinq on November 13, 2020, 04:31:05 AM
Not many of us have RM10-15k lying around for a watch. ;D
Post by: dpkong on November 13, 2020, 08:05:05 AM
Not really about the availability but the affordability.
Not many of us have RM10-15k lying around for a watch. ;D
Actually, a lot of people have 10-15k lying around for a watch.. most of them even more. But those who would pay 10-15k for a Ming is a different crowd.
Post by: pleasuresaurus on November 13, 2020, 08:35:53 AM
Post by: tllee4567 on November 13, 2020, 11:49:25 AM
Yeah, its likely a particular subset of watch collectors. I reckon its more of watch aficionados who have had in their collection the regular staples and offerings from major brands, and are now interested in moving beyond the big name brands and into independents. The same kaki that go for Moser, Parmagiani, Grossman...I think its just like any other hobby la, lama-lama bosan jugak the same old things. Take guitars for example, after a decade or 2 one might get bored of the usual Gibson/Fender/PRS/ ESP stuff and start moving on to less known but high quality small volume stuff like Huber, Ruokangas or Skervesen. Add variety to the collection. Not everybody knows about the brand, but being a fairly seasoned collector, one would know good value and uniqueness in it.Totally agree with your assessment. It’s not for those looking for first watch or those still looking for brands to collect. Ming is all about value for money and the small details in finishing at that price point. I am also waiting for my diver and I managed to get it on its second batch. Thank god he did it in two batches. Otherwise I would not have time to decide to buy or to pass. At that price point, I dun think many microbrands can match both in terms of the quality and quantity as well. Imho.
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Post by: tllee4567 on November 13, 2020, 08:09:44 PM
New release from Ming, 19.05 is a limited production of just 15 pcs and pricing is not too friendly.
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Post by: pleasuresaurus on November 13, 2020, 08:39:39 PM
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Post by: chrisyen on November 14, 2020, 07:03:44 AM
Dunno who bought it... a msian tycoon here?
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Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 15, 2021, 06:47:28 PM
Post by: chrisyen on January 16, 2021, 06:17:45 AM
Well, its next year now and still no luck with the recent batch :Laughing_on_floor:It’s like Rolex... hv to rub shoulder with ppl first !
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Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 16, 2021, 08:23:08 AM
Post by: chrisyen on January 16, 2021, 08:33:06 AM
But how to rub shoulders bro, all online only now, wanna find the shoulder also tak jumpa ;DSure or not... only online!
I see same ppl getting it all the time
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Post by: chrisyen on January 16, 2021, 08:34:34 AM
So many watches out there
N trust me ... it’s unlimited limited production
Every 2-3 mths u get new batch of them
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Post by: dpkong on January 16, 2021, 09:45:15 AM
Well, its next year now and still no luck with the recent batch :Laughing_on_floor:It’s like Rolex... hv to rub shoulder with ppl first !
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I saw some nice SA at AD... thought can try to rub shoulders but no luck..
:Laughing_on_floor:
Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 16, 2021, 10:03:09 AM
Got a point also there, plenty of fish in the sea so to speak.
I do find that it is impressive and inspiring though, the fact that a small business is selling well during these trying times. More so that they are local with an international reach, and that they are selling luxury watches, which I see as discretionary items.
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 15, 2021, 07:14:17 PM
Post by: Cocas on April 15, 2021, 08:03:54 PM
Anybody managed to land the 17.09 just now?
Worse than yesterday... :Blue:
Post by: Kesharoo on April 16, 2021, 10:27:58 AM
Anybody managed to land the 17.09 just now?
all gone in 30 seconds or less so will try again tonight but lowering expectations. Kalau dapat ok, tak dapat pun ok juga. But something is seriously askew in the horology world right now. :Confused:
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 16, 2021, 07:46:28 PM
Post by: Kesharoo on April 16, 2021, 09:10:57 PM
Post by: Cocas on April 16, 2021, 10:13:29 PM
This 17.09 model total sold units could be 5000. 8)
Post by: r3kahsttub on April 19, 2021, 10:14:49 PM
My order serial number is 49xx.
This 17.09 model total sold units could be 5000. 8)
Ming has already said the number is 2,000 units. Anyway, my number also 4,9xx.
Post by: Kesharoo on April 20, 2021, 09:11:15 AM
My order serial number is 49xx.
This 17.09 model total sold units could be 5000. 8)
Ming has already said the number is 2,000 units. Anyway, my number also 4,9xx.
Mine is also 49xx, my guess is that this is the total number of Ming watches made thus far....rather than just the 17.09. I am more curious as to whether blue is more popular than burgundy....I bought a burgundy one. Now to wait patiently for at least 12-15 months.
Have a nice day!
Post by: r3kahsttub on April 20, 2021, 12:32:48 PM
Post by: Kesharoo on April 21, 2021, 09:09:47 AM
The order number represents the total number of watches sold; 17.09 series starts in 3xxx series if I'm not mistaken. I am also curious how many blue v burgundy.
Ming has confirmed via IG that total units ordered is 2000+ and that blue is favoured about 55:45 ratio to burgundy. That means about 1100 blue and 900 burgundy.
Post by: jasonchan on April 21, 2021, 11:59:32 AM
My order serial number is 49xx.Where to look for the order serial number? My was 8numbers, 2017-40xx, does that means my number is the 40xx?
This 17.09 model total sold units could be 5000. 8)
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Post by: Cocas on June 29, 2022, 12:54:24 PM
I will pour myself a glass of Japanese whiskey while unboxing it....
Can't wait to go home now :Cheers:
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Post by: Kesharoo on June 29, 2022, 01:10:02 PM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on June 29, 2022, 02:50:11 PM
@Kesharoo looks like still more waiting for us la it seems :-[
Post by: Cocas on June 29, 2022, 05:25:59 PM
Post by: Cocas on June 29, 2022, 05:43:25 PM
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Post by: pleasuresaurus on June 29, 2022, 06:32:21 PM
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Post by: Cocas on June 30, 2022, 08:36:13 AM
Post by: Cocas on June 30, 2022, 07:36:03 PM
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Post by: Cocas on June 30, 2022, 07:38:42 PM
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Post by: Kesharoo on July 01, 2022, 12:54:45 PM
17.03, 18.01, 17.09 side by side comparing against each others.
(https://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22220.0;attach=15465;image)
Thanks for the pictures bro...It shows a nice evolution of the Ming series.
Now I am "kancheong" for mine to arrive. Full payment made last week and until today not a peep from Ming. I sent an enquiry but no answers yet. ???
Post by: Kesharoo on July 01, 2022, 01:44:40 PM
17.03, 18.01, 17.09 side by side comparing against each others.
(https://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22220.0;attach=15465;image)
Thanks for the pictures bro...It shows a nice evolution of the Ming series.
Now I am "kancheong" for mine to arrive. Full payment made last week and until today not a peep from Ming. I sent an enquiry but no answers yet. ???
Wah, MWF very powerful....2 hours after I say not a word from Ming I received an email saying DHL will send on Monday! Hooray!
Post by: pleasuresaurus on July 01, 2022, 02:14:15 PM
17.03, 18.01, 17.09 side by side comparing against each others.
(https://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22220.0;attach=15465;image)
Thanks for the pictures bro...It shows a nice evolution of the Ming series.
Now I am "kancheong" for mine to arrive. Full payment made last week and until today not a peep from Ming. I sent an enquiry but no answers yet. ???
Wah, MWF very powerful....2 hours after I say not a word from Ming I received an email saying DHL will send on Monday! Hooray!
Very der powderful indeed! :Laughing_on_floor: At least monday blues wont be so bad next week la kan
Post by: Cocas on July 01, 2022, 02:41:42 PM
Post by: Cocas on July 01, 2022, 02:45:53 PM
Post by: Kesharoo on July 04, 2022, 09:35:39 AM
Yay!
(https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/render/00-ZeglvvKA5puAc_5X9WZHLFuiYH41rWJvnNzGwcgM1CG631eLnTl36l713t-JF-QMKwg5ydwHipy3aIZBf9dNYQ?cn=THISLIFE&res=medium&ts=1656905268)
Appears small at 38mm but very wearable. Thanks MING!
Post by: pleasuresaurus on July 26, 2022, 10:41:53 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/6PpBdRs/62de6d6872ecb72cfa495a46-3707-10.jpg) (https://ibb.co/58zF7Wc)
Post by: jf98 on July 26, 2022, 04:13:54 PM
Greetings hive mind, what do we think about this new 37.07 time limited release kambing soon?
(https://i.ibb.co/6PpBdRs/62de6d6872ecb72cfa495a46-3707-10.jpg) (https://ibb.co/58zF7Wc)
I'm loving it!! Although would have preferred if it came with a leather strap instead and for 500CHF less :Laughing_on_floor:
Post by: Kesharoo on July 29, 2022, 10:24:15 AM
Greetings hive mind, what do we think about this new 37.07 time limited release kambing soon?
(https://i.ibb.co/6PpBdRs/62de6d6872ecb72cfa495a46-3707-10.jpg) (https://ibb.co/58zF7Wc)
I'm loving it!! Although would have preferred if it came with a leather strap instead and for 500CHF less :Laughing_on_floor:
So anybody booked this fella today? Last chance tomorrow.....I am skipping this one.
Post by: Cocas on July 29, 2022, 04:33:39 PM
Post by: jf98 on July 29, 2022, 10:33:37 PM
Post by: Mavkjay on July 30, 2022, 07:37:44 AM
Now that I see so many of you guys passed on it..it's no wonder that d booking process was relatively smooth..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220730/0a666eee336ca0caf78d58770a99faf9.jpg)
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Post by: pleasuresaurus on July 30, 2022, 03:10:40 PM
Post by: jf98 on September 04, 2022, 12:02:13 AM
Reckon the fact that this was a time-limited order and that after lessons learnt from previous 17.09 release, they problem figured out a few things about smoothening the process. And likely learnt a lesson or 2 from Kurono as well.
I think it might not be just that. Could be the fact that people are starting to wisen up and realise that 50% upfront deposit with almost a years wait is damn ridiculous ???
Also, sorry to bump an old thread but did anyone see the new 100pc limited edition 37.04 Monopusher Chrono released recently? Priced at CHF29.5k, works out to about RM135k before taxes. Thoughts on that?? :o
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 04, 2022, 01:55:37 PM
Post by: jf98 on September 05, 2022, 11:00:30 PM
That one seems more of a LE high horo piece that's targeted to the top tier collectors looks like. Their offerings seem to span quite a huge price range now, but steadily scaling up.
Yeah that seems like the case...although the Monopusher still seems insane to me. I know they're marketing it as high horo with the supposed Journe movement and all, but it feels like they're putting a Ferrari engine into a Toyota Camry if you get what I mean. Case finishing still very mediocre for the price paid and 100pc production feels like a cash grab. I think their 20.09 Tourbillon was a much cooler release in comparison...although I can't imagine what that one would have cost la ;D
Post by: justinbaka on September 09, 2022, 07:20:03 PM
Post by: jf98 on September 09, 2022, 10:48:18 PM
At the end based upon their announcement, the Monopusher still seemed to have completely sold out. When you have international Billionaire fans like Kevin O'Leary, I guess there's a market..
Not too sure about that. It was only registrations of interest. Let's see if all will follow thru and purchase :D
Post by: Kesharoo on September 15, 2022, 09:50:28 AM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 15, 2022, 11:58:59 AM
Post by: hong999 on September 20, 2022, 12:35:03 PM
Interestingly, there is industry people questioning Ming business model as well, ie you may refer to this video for more information (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69GtSalRGl8)
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 23, 2022, 09:55:14 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/6nGW9VC/IMG-20220923-110153.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HFRHw18)
Post by: jf98 on September 23, 2022, 11:43:08 AM
Suda sampai! :laugh:
(https://i.ibb.co/6nGW9VC/IMG-20220923-110153.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HFRHw18)
Whoa that's a pretty nice kit! Enjoy :Cheers:
Post by: Kesharoo on September 23, 2022, 12:15:29 PM
Suda sampai! :laugh:
(https://i.ibb.co/6nGW9VC/IMG-20220923-110153.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HFRHw18)
Very nice stash bro, congratulations.
Post by: hong999 on September 23, 2022, 12:27:01 PM
Suda sampai! :laugh:
(https://i.ibb.co/6nGW9VC/IMG-20220923-110153.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HFRHw18)
Let us know your opinion on the new Ming buckle, the new buckle design is well structured to prevent any damage on the strap.
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 24, 2022, 10:00:04 AM
@hong999: tbh honest I haven't had time to fiddle with the straps n buckles much, but doesn't really look all that different from what I'm used to. I don't think it's going to protect from wear n tear by putting on n taking off the strap, but I'll keep n eye on it n update if I notice any improved longevity
Post by: bc40 on October 22, 2022, 08:17:54 AM
Post by: qhy500 on January 10, 2023, 10:24:25 PM
Happy for a Malaysian brand but sad how inflated the price has become, though some will say it's still worth it.
Post by: colnagolover on April 10, 2023, 06:13:23 PM