Post by: rogerckt on October 06, 2016, 09:41:55 AM
Post by: hanz079 on October 06, 2016, 09:52:33 AM
If u define hot as in every tom, dick and harry has one, then yes. It's not hot.
My opinion is the brand is missing something with mass appeal. Ppl who buys a Zenith normally know what they are getting into.
Others rarely take the time to find out.
So, to each his own.
Post by: elado249 on October 06, 2016, 10:22:04 AM
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Post by: CKL1213 on October 06, 2016, 12:16:24 PM
Post by: Cocas on October 06, 2016, 12:19:00 PM
So people tend to buy Panerai for big and macho watch.
Post by: hanz079 on October 06, 2016, 02:11:30 PM
Zenith watch is big but not so macho.
So people tend to buy Panerai for big and macho watch.
Exactly my point.
Ppl do not buy Zenith watches to be macho.
Like I said, ppl who buy a Zenith watch knows what they are buying...
IMHO, the new Zenith Elite Classic is good value.
Doesn't look out of place next to a JLC moonphase or an AP Jules Audemars.
I still think they need a decent sized sports watch or dive watch.
Not those 45.5mm monstrosity they are offering now...
Post by: asimo on October 06, 2016, 04:56:24 PM
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Post by: Cocas on October 06, 2016, 06:45:27 PM
Maybe got something with brand image .. Not much advertising n market positioning of zenith is unknown
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Agree. It does not have aggressive marketing advertisement, and it's rank was put below Hublot (in which is seriously terribly wrong).
The most tarnishing harm done to Zenith is some Zenith watches are using Selita movement. :o!?!
Post by: meoramri on October 06, 2016, 07:09:59 PM
Maybe got something with brand image .. Not much advertising n market positioning of zenith is unknown
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Agree. It does not have aggressive marketing advertisement, and it's rank was put below Hublot (in which is seriously terribly wrong).
The most tarnishing harm done to Zenith is some Zenith watches are using Selita movement. :o!?!
The last sentence can't be right? As far as I know Zenith have their own in house movement. In fact Rolex used zenith movement in the early Daytonas.
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Post by: Cocas on October 06, 2016, 07:23:46 PM
Maybe got something with brand image .. Not much advertising n market positioning of zenith is unknown
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Agree. It does not have aggressive marketing advertisement, and it's rank was put below Hublot (in which is seriously terribly wrong).
The most tarnishing harm done to Zenith is some Zenith watches are using Selita movement. :o!?!
The last sentence can't be right? As far as I know Zenith have their own in house movement. In fact Rolex used zenith movement in the early Daytonas.
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Hi @meoramri bro.
Here is the link http://forums.watchuseek.com/f27/will-sellita-save-zenith-1007218.html#/forumsite/20758/topics/1007218?page=1
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/zenith-its-no-longer-zenith-1006870-22.html#/forumsite/20758/topics/1006870?page=22
Be careful on those low priced Zenith.
Post by: meoramri on October 06, 2016, 08:40:55 PM
http://www.timepiecechronicle.com/features/2015/1/19/lugtolugmythoughtsonzenith
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Post by: hanz079 on October 06, 2016, 09:29:33 PM
And they also reversed the decision when the new CEO Aldo took over.
Call it a blip in Zenith's history if you will, but any publicity is good. Glad it's all in the past now.
Those who owned a piece of Zenith with sellita, keep it.
I don't think it will happen again.
As for the market positioning, inside the LVMH group.
I think Hublot got the most marketed.
LV watches just tag along with the bigger fashion label's marketing.
Then it's Zenith and Bvlgari.
Then Tag.
I don't see anything wrong.
For WIS, i think Zenith is held highest in all those brands but in branding, Hublot wins... Sad but true.
Personally, i am a big fan of Zenith watches... I am also frustrated because they are not releasing anything that appeal to me at this moment.
So, i will be happy just sticking to what i have.
Post by: rogerckt on October 07, 2016, 06:22:11 AM
Post by: Cocas on October 07, 2016, 07:18:02 AM
With all those 2k+ awards, el primero used by daytonas and all the in house movement, Zenith not on the par with brand such as Omega, Panerai or IWC. Sad case ???
Don't be sad. Isn't it a good chance to buy Zenith while all others still unaware of this brand :thumbsup:
Post by: asimo on October 07, 2016, 10:13:02 AM
Hublot is aggressive in marketing and advertising n position as a macho watch ... Sponsor many events eg wrestling , soccer players , etc...
Zenith LE partnership I can recall is rolling stone band, Cuba cigar brand , lolz etc
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Post by: D'Andy on October 07, 2016, 10:40:20 AM
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Post by: elado249 on October 07, 2016, 02:57:14 PM
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Post by: Cocas on October 07, 2016, 06:14:45 PM
Post by: hanz079 on October 07, 2016, 10:43:01 PM
Everyone seems to want a macho watch irregardless of brand, and brands just churn out the watches to satisfy what ppl want.
Even Patek seems to get in on the big watch bandwagon by releasing a 49.25mm 5976/1G for the Nautilus 40th Anniversary...
I believe brands should sometimes stick to their guns and not follow trends or fad but being a business, it's sink or swim...
I for one do not like to be wearing a 45mm+ watch when I am old... i'd look like a fool i reckon...
Post by: Cocas on October 08, 2016, 05:25:04 AM
I guess that's the problem there.
Everyone seems to want a macho watch irregardless of brand, and brands just churn out the watches to satisfy what ppl want.
Even Patek seems to get in on the big watch bandwagon by releasing a 49.25mm 5976/1G for the Nautilus 40th Anniversary...
I believe brands should sometimes stick to their guns and not follow trends or fad but being a business, it's sink or swim...
I for one do not like to be wearing a 45mm+ watch when I am old... i'd look like a fool i reckon...
Yes, for that. I salute to Rolex. It still does not build any fashionable "big" watch.
By the way, its big size tool watch-DSSD is so fashionable already.
Post by: ndtaan on October 08, 2016, 10:36:15 AM
I guess that's the problem there.
Everyone seems to want a macho watch irregardless of brand, and brands just churn out the watches to satisfy what ppl want.
Even Patek seems to get in on the big watch bandwagon by releasing a 49.25mm 5976/1G for the Nautilus 40th Anniversary...
I believe brands should sometimes stick to their guns and not follow trends or fad but being a business, it's sink or swim...
I for one do not like to be wearing a 45mm+ watch when I am old... i'd look like a fool i reckon...
Yes, for that. I salute to Rolex. It still does not build any fashionable "big" watch.
By the way, its big size tool watch-DSSD is so fashionable already.
"Don't fix it if it ain't broken" mentality.That's why they have so many boring models.If not for their excellent marketing position,I think people won't even give it a second look.haha
Post by: Clicko on October 11, 2016, 12:26:11 AM
Post by: terrenceterrence on October 11, 2016, 01:30:48 AM
Love mine and still believe it's the best bang for the buck inhouse chrono out there. Although I believe it needs to update the calibre and not ride on nostalgia alone.
The next best high horology "affordable" in house chrono is the daytona. Credit where credit is due, the 4130 is a beautiful, robust and very reliable movement.
The new direction zenith is heading now is a great disappointment also...well to me anyway. Guess with the great beaver in helm, no surprises.
As long as you stick to 40mm and below it's a beautiful balanced watch and dial layout.
Sad to say, my experience with LVMH servicing is a disappointment. There's no other place to go but there. So suck it in.
Having said it all, would love to get a De Luca or Rainbow Flyback one of these days.
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Post by: theseira on October 13, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
I can't find any nicer piece in their catalog that can beat this.
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Post by: asimo on October 13, 2016, 07:08:31 PM
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Post by: theseira on October 14, 2016, 08:30:58 AM
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Nice piece but they made 150 pieces of this model. Very slow to move due to the high retail price. Retails approx. 96k SGD however not selling well at this price. Even hard to move at 50k SGD. Saw one on sale for 58k sgd not moving.
Post by: asimo on October 14, 2016, 08:34:09 AM
More people especially youngsters are into casual and sports watches rather than
Classic dress watch designs like elite /el primero collection. I find zenith pilot design offer a good alternative to the ubiquitous PAM.
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Post by: Clicko on November 02, 2016, 04:59:52 PM
I like this 38mm El Primero 1969 but I haven't been able to find any in ADs. I wonder how much this costs at MSRP and what sort of discount to expect?
I just saw this at nuSentral Swiss Watch Gallery 2 month back. Not sure about the price now.
Post by: watchkeeper on November 14, 2016, 10:57:35 PM
Post by: Cocas on November 15, 2016, 09:48:31 AM
I like this 38mm El Primero 1969 but I haven't been able to find any in ADs. I wonder how much this costs at MSRP and what sort of discount to expect?
This is a very classic and evergreen piece for Zenith. Price will shoot up very soon.
Post by: phat7 on November 15, 2016, 03:56:39 PM
Post by: asimo on November 16, 2016, 11:05:29 AM
I like this 38mm El Primero 1969 but I haven't been able to find any in ADs. I wonder how much this costs at MSRP and what sort of discount to expect?
The 42mm tricolour (4 different choices) is about rm31k before discount
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Post by: asimo on November 25, 2016, 12:19:11 PM
Do somebody knows a good place where to get an el primero classic in kl, price and discount expected? Pls pm me
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Try Swiss watch at Nu sentral , maybe I guess standard discount for this brand is around 25% ..
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Post by: Isaac Tan on December 22, 2016, 07:37:48 AM
Yeah try to find a good deal shop now, hope will find one soon
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Post by: Cocas on January 04, 2017, 07:46:58 PM
Breaking News: Aldo Magada, CEO Zenith has resigned. Jean-Claude Biver will interim take over the entire managemen… ift.tt/2j42Ea6
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Hur....are they trying to kill this brand?!? :'(
Keep changing CEO.
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Post by: farhanbh100 on January 12, 2017, 11:38:20 AM
However if one likes em one will acquire em..
These brands still around says sumthing donit...
Peace.
Post by: Cocas on January 15, 2017, 02:43:07 PM
Zenith Annual Calendar is really big but its look really "tame"
Post by: netnoob77 on January 21, 2017, 07:57:31 PM
Breaking News: Aldo Magada, CEO Zenith has resigned. Jean-Claude Biver will interim take over the entire managemen… ift.tt/2j42Ea6
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Good lar.. the brand wasn't going anywhere with Aldo. With their previous CEO, Jean-Frédéric Dufour, the brand was experiencing a renaissance, but after he was pinched by Rolex, nothing really exciting has been introduced by the brand.
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Post by: seale_navy on April 23, 2017, 03:16:43 PM
The zenith i would go for the is the tri-colour dial zenith el primero 38mm
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Post by: lshinxl on July 02, 2017, 09:43:07 PM
Just to name a few of my fav - Bronze Pilot Extra Special, Pilot Cafe Racer, Chronomaster open, Port Royal, and their Elite!
Post by: berdsc on July 09, 2017, 12:13:19 PM
But it still a great watch to have maybe hong konger or Chinese no demand that's why it is still cold.
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Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 07, 2023, 04:24:20 PM
Somehow I find Zenith design often fail in some aspect. Rarely can they ever get everything right except maybe for the Chronomaster Sport. Every other model has some setback. I own the A384 and find the pin buckle annoying when they could have included a deployant clasp. But easy to get 3rd party straps and clasp. The size is a bit small when they could have enlarge it a little. And only after buying one did I realise the movement did not hack. I still love it though but it is a little small and remains a part of the "nice to see" collection.
That's a fair point. Even with the Chronomaster Sport, there were gripes about the clasp assembly not being as well built as the rest of the watch, which rather detracts from an otherwise awesome piece of tech.
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Post by: Henry T on May 05, 2023, 09:27:43 AM
If I really want to buy another Zenith it'll be the El Primero.
or the A384
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Post by: dpkong on September 19, 2023, 06:57:39 PM
I personally think that Zenith itself is pretty underrated all over the world. I personally like their el primero a384 but the tinny ladder bracelet is a bit of a turn off
The dial is beautiful, the open case back showing the movement is nice. Love that it is a 1969-2019 piece, 50th anniversary piece. Very nice. But it is a bit small.. the movement doesn't hack.. and the chrono hand "jumps" when activated.
Yet I have one so that says a lot.
Now thinking about the Chronomaster Sport but looking for a killer deal...
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