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Title: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on February 25, 2009, 06:29:02 AM
i still got a nicely decorated used 6498-1.... it is a chronometre grade movement....
it has a screwed glycydur bal, anochron hair spring.... cote de geneva on all bridges, perlage under the balance...
better grade jewels... blued screw.... only flaw is the swan neck been taken away and mounting screw holes.

so i decided to make a 2533....
44mm polished cushion case with wire lugs
screw in crown lock
diamond like crown
see through case back
2533 like sandwich dial with c3 luminous
blue hand with c3 luminous
tall plexi glass...

i still need to find the winding stem...
maybe a tall cannon pinion and hour wheel....
2 movement mounting screws...
maybe a to try a fake pam movement swan neck can fit into this movement....

and my handmade strap....





Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: danny on February 25, 2009, 08:35:53 AM
Yenfoolun,
I really admire your resourcefulness. I don't think I know of anyone else who has a spare nicely decorated 6498-1 lying around the house!  :) Not to mention the 44mm Radiomir case and sandwich dial. Where did you source for these stuff?
Do keep us posted on the progress of your latest project and good luck in finding the missing pieces to the puzzle.
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: Scott C. on February 25, 2009, 09:13:30 AM
I have a 44mm Luminor case (a replica panerai 88) which i got long long time back..if you want i can pass it to you..

Possible to buy those replica rad (cheap one) and take their case?
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on February 25, 2009, 12:53:03 PM
i'm getting the 44mm well polished case from davidsen... the master in faking panerai!
his case is better then those at petaling street...
and i do not want any laser engrave wording for this project watch...

so no logo on case, dial n crown..... buckle....

spoke to my friend, he can find me the winding stem...
now need to order china made crone pam movement with swan neck...
hope the swan neck can fit into my movement!
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on March 02, 2009, 11:23:16 AM
movement...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/hands.jpg)

case
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/dial.jpg)

dial
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/dial.jpg)

hand
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/movement.jpg)

taller cannon pinion and hour wheel...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/tallcannonpinionandhourwheel.jpg)

not a ebauche 6498
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/DSC_0003-2.jpg)

pending winding stem..... and still hoping to get a swan neck that can fit.....
not so please with the hands....but this the only hands i can find now....
dial is not perfect either... but lucky i'm not purist....
the tall plexiglass is special.... haha....

and i'm making strap for it.... half way done...
i would like to keep the side without cream.... the sandwich look is lovely....
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/DSC_0011-1.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/DSC_0022-2.jpg)
no time to stitch yet... hope it turn out great.... still waiting for a buckle...

it was done together with other 2
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/DSC_0092.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/DSC_0029.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/DSC_0027-2.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/DSC_0009-2.jpg)
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: danny on March 04, 2009, 06:02:32 AM
Yenfoolun,
Cool pics. Now we can learn from you how to put a custom watch together.
By the way I think you posted the picture of the watch case twice. Dial pic is missing.
Thanks for sharing and keep us posted on the progress.
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on March 04, 2009, 06:10:21 AM
oops... there u go...

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/case-1.jpg)

and sorry bout pic quality... i'm in the rust for taking all these photos and actually....
Title: the king? is born
Post by: chrisyen on March 09, 2009, 09:23:01 AM
managed to find some time to finish off this....

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/DSC_0003-3.jpg)

now waiting for my friend to get the winding stem from swatch group for me.... lazy to find online....

i still hoping to get a swan neck that can fit into the movement
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: danny on March 11, 2009, 02:40:20 PM
Yenfoolun,
Your network of contacts never cease to amaze me. You know people in Richemont and Swatch Groups.
Do you know anybody in Rolex Service Centre who can get me a black sub bezel insert. I wanna switch out the green one in my LV sub.  ;D
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on March 11, 2009, 09:27:28 PM
i dont think is difficult to get the black bezel insert....

let me ask tomorrow...
Title: Re: 2533 done.... no swan neck yet
Post by: chrisyen on March 11, 2009, 10:16:30 PM
just done....

winding stem just little too long ... so cant screw in all.. but it is ok to me... worst if over cut...
since tested with water resistant... 100m no problem!

some quick photo...... 2533 on my handmade vintage look strap....

lume first
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/2533%20project/DSC_0017.jpg)

dim
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/2533%20project/DSC_0016.jpg)

front
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/2533%20project/DSC_0010.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/2533%20project/DSC_0009.jpg)

tall plexi glass
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/2533%20project/DSC_0012.jpg)

back
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/2533%20project/DSC_0004.jpg)








Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: silverstan on March 11, 2009, 10:44:54 PM
wow, very nice!
how much it cost to custom made 1 watch like this?
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: David_cheong on March 12, 2009, 08:39:53 AM
Very impressive.

Is that the 6497 Asian movement? (non-swan neck)

Please tell us more on its case.. local outsource or original marina case...40mm or 44mm

Recently I have seen some 'swan neck' movement at the Lelong Malaysia. They even selling the california dial type. Are they any good?

I always tempted to buy this over at the Time Zones, The following are the descriptions;-

" This is very close to the original as you can see from the pic. The back has display case so you can see the swiss Unitas 6497.

Display back. Signed movement and crown. It's on a brand new brown BOB strap.

Selling for $290 shipped.
C-30FS: 47mm Radiomir style California Dial Custom Homage - Swiss Unitas mvmt $290

Your advise please.
DC

Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: danny on March 12, 2009, 02:06:51 PM
Congratulations on the completion of your project watch. Looks great.
By the way how did you test the water resistance to 100m?
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on March 12, 2009, 04:09:15 PM
Is that the 6497 Asian movement? (non-swan neck)
Please tell us more on its case.. local outsource or original marina case...40mm or 44mm
Recently I have seen some 'swan neck' movement at the Lelong Malaysia. They even selling the california dial type. Are they any good?
I always tempted to buy this over at the Time Zones, The following are the descriptions;-
" This is very close to the original as you can see from the pic. The back has display case so you can see the swiss Unitas 6497.
Display back. Signed movement and crown. It's on a brand new brown BOB strap.
Selling for $290 shipped.
C-30FS: 47mm Radiomir style California Dial Custom Homage - Swiss Unitas mvmt $290

this is a genuine swiss eta 6498-1, not a normal1 but modified by soprod....
1. cote de geneva on bridges
2. perlage below balance
3. blued screw
4. screws glucydur balance
5. anachron hair spring
it has a flame blued swan neck modified by dornbluth.... but is rusted...

this is a 44mm 316L st steel cushion case with screw in crown and double o ring for better water resistant!

those lelong in malaysia is china crone panerai 6497... the finishing is very poor... the cote de geneva is lousy...
the gear is not polish... it will not last long....

beware of all this deal...
1. ebauche swiss movement 6497 / 6498 cost u around usd130... those nickel plated cost u another usd20... if cote de geneva finish + blued screw cost u usd 200 ++...

if total usd 290 shipped... u wont get a finished movement... or seller cheat!
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on March 12, 2009, 04:12:11 PM
Congratulations on the completion of your project watch. Looks great.
By the way how did you test the water resistance to 100m?

watchmaker have a pressure tester made by sigma....
u put it in... turn on 10 bar....... dit dit dit dit... ding...
there u go... haha....
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on March 12, 2009, 04:20:15 PM
Yenfoolun,
Your network of contacts never cease to amaze me. You know people in Richemont and Swatch Groups.
Do you know anybody in Rolex Service Centre who can get me a black sub bezel insert. I wanna switch out the green one in my LV sub.  ;D

just called my fren... he will call his fren in rsc....
rolex will not sell the bezel insert without your watches.... so if u bring your watch there, they wont sell u other color....
thats how they control.... which is good.... otherwise....

i'll pm u if arrangement can be made!
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: David_cheong on March 12, 2009, 04:36:41 PM
Hi yenfoolun

This site looks promising; For all your mechanical movement/s needs
http://www.ofrei.com/page_181.html

DC
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on March 12, 2009, 08:28:23 PM
thanks... i ordered some parts from them last time.... but they got no 6498 winding stem and swan neck thats why i asked my friend to get it from swatch... anyway, swatch is cheaper in this case!

Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: Scott C. on March 12, 2009, 09:45:23 PM
Nice :)

Maybe you need a 27/27 strap ;)
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on March 13, 2009, 06:53:58 AM
Maybe you need a 27/27 strap ;)

yes.... but i dont have 27mm buckle.... strap can be made any time!
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: David_cheong on March 13, 2009, 07:33:19 AM
yenfoolun

Would you mind sharing with us your approximate cost to complete this 6498 project?
If the cost is reasonable, any chance of building another one in the near future? (beside the project watch currently on)

I always wanted one with the cushion case type, (reasonable cost and with all the authentic / genuine components) but could not bring myself to settle for one from the RXW range (high cost?) or from the petaling street (non-genuine)

Thanks
DC
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: Scott C. on March 13, 2009, 08:07:11 AM
Maybe you need a 27/27 strap ;)

yes.... but i dont have 27mm buckle.... strap can be made any time!

maybe a 27/22 will do ;) dressy i guess..
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: danny on March 13, 2009, 12:01:47 PM
just called my fren... he will call his fren in rsc....
rolex will not sell the bezel insert without your watches.... so if u bring your watch there, they wont sell u other color....
thats how they control.... which is good.... otherwise....

i'll pm u if arrangement can be made!
Yenfoolun,
Thanks for taking the effort to make enquiries. RSC here is really stingy when it comes to spare parts.
I guess it's necessary due to the number of FOLEX around.
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on March 13, 2009, 09:25:28 PM
yenfoolun

Would you mind sharing with us your approximate cost to complete this 6498 project?
If the cost is reasonable, any chance of building another one in the near future? (beside the project watch currently on)

I always wanted one with the cushion case type, (reasonable cost and with all the authentic / genuine components) but could not bring myself to settle for one from the RXW range (high cost?) or from the petaling street (non-genuine)

Thanks
DC


a genuine swiss eta 6497/6498 include shipping may cost u usd 140
+ a nice cushion case + c3 luminous sandwich dial + c3 luminous hands from hk may cost u usd200
+ taller cannon pinion usd 25 included shipping
+ assembling cost.... it will cost u usd 350 to 400....

so if u looking for something like that i suggest u get it direct from joa/davidsen/rayknight, they r master in making fake pam ! they can custom make for u.....

or if u can wait... i make 1 for u....
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: David_cheong on March 14, 2009, 08:25:34 AM
yenfoolun

Thank you in advance.

Yes,,,,, I can wait. Just let me know when you are ready.

DC
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: magpies14 on March 14, 2009, 06:56:23 PM
guys..this is a sample of a homage I got from Ray knight..a Radiomir Cali dial..

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/magpies14/P1010008.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/magpies14/P1010004.jpg)

a better picture taken by ray knight himself..

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/magpies14/collage120.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/magpies14/collage121.jpg)

 
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: chrisyen on March 15, 2009, 03:37:35 PM
yenfoolun

Thank you in advance.

Yes,,,,, I can wait. Just let me know when you are ready.

DC

u can pm me what u want....
case, dial, hands, movement, crown, crystal....
Title: Re: itchy..... when i see my 6498 movement in my drawer unused.... 2533 !!!
Post by: David_cheong on March 16, 2009, 08:40:11 AM
PM sent

DC