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Main Forums => General Discussion - Vintage Watches => Topic started by: SLK on April 21, 2017, 03:19:20 PM
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Hi MWF!
I'm considering adding a vintage watch to my collection.
I've narrowed it down to between getting a Grand Seiko (5646 series) or a Rolex ( oysterdate or datejust).
Any opinion on which would be the better option?
Looking for something that won't break the bank, probably RM7k and below.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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If only 2 choices of either vintage rolex or vintage grand Seiko, I will go for vintage rolex first.
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Looking at your criterias, I would happily suggest a GS. I got mine for under RM6K. GS for that time period was at the top of the watch game, producing watches that performed above the standards set by the Swiss chronology society. If you dug a little and read up on the history of GS, you will be more than impressed. I have several modern six digit Rolexes, therefore my comments are not coming from a Rolex hater/basher. Just plain facts and a love for all things that tick. Here is my little vintage beauty.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z157/dualcarb/Watches/5FF18ADB-F930-4D13-9465-2BD9EC5F527A.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/dualcarb/media/Watches/5FF18ADB-F930-4D13-9465-2BD9EC5F527A.jpg.html)
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Looking at your criterias, I would happily suggest a GS. I got mine for under RM6K. GS for that time period was at the top of the watch game, producing watches that performed above the standards set by the Swiss chronology society. If you dug a little and read up on the history of GS, you will be more than impressed. I have several modern six digit Rolexes, therefore my comments are not coming from a Rolex hater/basher. Just plain facts and a love for all things that tick. Here is my little vintage beauty.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z157/dualcarb/Watches/5FF18ADB-F930-4D13-9465-2BD9EC5F527A.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/dualcarb/media/Watches/5FF18ADB-F930-4D13-9465-2BD9EC5F527A.jpg.html)
I love the history of both these watches but I must say I'm more inclined to getting the GS.
My only concern for the GS is that if it will it be able to hold its value? I'm pretty sure that if I ever decide to sell the watch in the future, the Rolex would probably be able to hold its value better than the GS.
Do correct me if my assumption is wrong.
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Looking at your criterias, I would happily suggest a GS. I got mine for under RM6K. GS for that time period was at the top of the watch game, producing watches that performed above the standards set by the Swiss chronology society. If you dug a little and read up on the history of GS, you will be more than impressed. I have several modern six digit Rolexes, therefore my comments are not coming from a Rolex hater/basher. Just plain facts and a love for all things that tick. Here is my little vintage beauty.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z157/dualcarb/Watches/5FF18ADB-F930-4D13-9465-2BD9EC5F527A.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/dualcarb/media/Watches/5FF18ADB-F930-4D13-9465-2BD9EC5F527A.jpg.html)
And I must add that is an amazing looking piece
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Vintage Rolex movement normally still remains very good condition despite decades passed.
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Vintage Rolex movement normally still remains very good condition despite decades passed.
Definitely no doubting the reliability of a Rolex.
Will most likely end up with both a vintage Rolex and GS at 1 point.
Just not sure on which 1 should I get first
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Oh yes...absolutely, Rolex will always be a watch which will hold its value better than most. But my question is, do you buy a watch because you love it? Or because it will hold its value better so that you can trade it someday? Or because you love the history or the watch? Or how it makes you feel when you wear it? No wrong answer here. Just buy what you like, your only job is to make sure that you are happy.
If you ask me, I prefer modern six digit reference Rolexes and vintage Seikos. To be honest, vintage Seikos seem to be appreciating in value too.
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Appreciate all the feedback!
Will begin the search for my first vintage piece!
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I love the history of GS but I'm more inclined for their Spring drive. Their vintage collection doesn't appeal to me aesthetically.
The vintage datejust however is just classic. One of the most imitated watches in history and one of the most recognizable. The 4 digit vintage datejust can fall under 6k if you have some patience.
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Be prudent of purchase any vintage Rolex, there are plenty of incomplete original parts and beware of those "makeup artist" who can make the dial and hands aged in cosmetic way.
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@Timeless bro :thumbsup:
I was told a spider web crack crystal vintage Rolex fetches higher price. But I once questioned the preowned shop, it can be easily achieved by exposed it under the sun nonstop till it crack. And above all the spider web crack looks so ugly to me. :D
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Be prudent of purchase any vintage Rolex, there are plenty of incomplete original parts and beware of those "makeup artist" who can make the dial and hands aged in cosmetic way.
Thanks! Appreciate the warning!
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rolex for me ... :o
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I like both, but comparing the two, my heart feel that Rolex with more value.
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GS for more bang for buck...I owned a datejust and was surprised by how well made the GS was when i purchased one this year
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Go with the Rolex. The 6694 or DJ are timeless pieces. They are super reliable top and are not terribly expansive. Sill hold the resale better than the Gd.
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I will go through with Rolex first :)
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HI Mico,
For me, the GS is a good watch and a good following. Really good and reliable.
However, I would go for a Rolex first and then move on to other brands later.
Again that is me .
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Just an info sharing.
I ask the same question to the old watch shifu. He recommended Rolex (and only) too.
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Rolex for the win from every angle.
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I say Rolex but Can you really get a vintage Rolex for 7k?
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I say Rolex but Can you really get a vintage Rolex for 7k?
Truthfully, yes. I got my 1601 two tone for a bit less than that but without the bracelet. Just the head.
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I could go for any GS without procrastinating on which one to get whereas for Rolex I will be very careful and probably get a very simple Datejust without exotic particularities (tropical, flat 4, spider web, transition model...). Those have been built by the millions and it should be easy enough to get one that wasn't altered.
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save up a 'lil' bit and get the 2 liner submariner
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Rolex first then gs
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seiko 6217 /62mas for me
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Rolex will have a better resale value
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Grand seiko is definitely looks sexier than rolex for vintage
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??GS is sexy
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Definitely GS for me.
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Preferably i'd go for the vintage rolex.
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Decided to get myself a King Seiko to satisfy my itch.
Aiming for a Rolex 6694 next
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Regarding value I don't believe there is any substantial down side risk to either alternative.
Then there is cost of maintenance, not sure how easy parts come by for the vintage Seiko but for Rolex you will find plenty of both parts and watchmakers who are able to service at decent cost.
If both are as attractive to you I would go with the Rolex. Always chose that watch that speaks the most to your heart =)
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Decided to get myself a King Seiko to satisfy my itch.
Aiming for a Rolex 6694 next
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Hey sorry, didn't catch there was already a second page.
Your GS looks great, nice vintage feel to it. Your surely be happy =)
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Decided to get myself a King Seiko to satisfy my itch.
Aiming for a Rolex 6694 next
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beautiful piece ! enjoy ~
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Decided to get myself a King Seiko to satisfy my itch.
Aiming for a Rolex 6694 next
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Hey sorry, didn't catch there was already a second page.
Your GS looks great, nice vintage feel to it. Your surely be happy =)
It’s not a GS!
King Seiko is a discontinued line by Seiko, a level below GS.
Finishing may not be as good but I’m really happy with it!
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my 1st choice is grand seiko snow flakes
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Rolex would be a good choice.
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Hi MWF!
I'm considering adding a vintage watch to my collection.
I've narrowed it down to between getting a Grand Seiko (5646 series) or a Rolex ( oysterdate or datejust).
Any opinion on which would be the better option?
Looking for something that won't break the bank, probably RM7k and below.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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Get a pre-owned Rolex with your budget! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Rolex !! I’m also starting to get into it. Would be great if you could share your experience and how you source for it.
Thanks.
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Seiko...
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With the price range, you would get a better (higher-line) GS vs. an entry level Rolex. Would rather go for GS first, then collect more money to buy 5513 or 1016.
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i will go for Rolex, coz of value !!
just my own Opinion!!
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I would choose a Grand Seiko.
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Rolex is an amazing brand with advance technical specs and brand knowledge.
Grand Seiko is the one that will impress fellow watch collectors thp. :Laughing_on_floor:
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Definitely Rolex for the first. There are many nice vintage watches in Rolex. :thumbsup:
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For retaining value I think the type of Rolex is important too. Anything lesser than a datejust I don’t think will retain much value.
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Hi MWF!
I'm considering adding a vintage watch to my collection.
I've narrowed it down to between getting a Grand Seiko (5646 series) or a Rolex ( oysterdate or datejust).
Any opinion on which would be the better option?
Looking for something that won't break the bank, probably RM7k and below.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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Grand Seiko could appreciate in value also, especially if the time piece is limited edition.
The Rolex is a straightforward choice, but because its pre-owned, there's important research work to do, and I guess you might not have many options to consider if you are aiming for one particular model.
My two cents, please correct me if I'm wrong :Cheers:
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can consider oris and tudor also
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Grand seiko
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Any sifus can recommend where to buy vintage Rolex? No luck in finding one I like
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Any sifus can recommend where to buy vintage Rolex? No luck in finding one I like
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If you talk about sport models, no luck is a norm . As for the rest of non popular, it's a piece a cake bro.
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Any sifus can recommend where to buy vintage Rolex? No luck in finding one I like
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If you talk about sport models, no luck is a norm . As for the rest of non popular, it's a piece a cake bro.
Keep looking, and impulse buy is require for purchasing. Don’t settle for second choice when you know you will be regretting in near future.
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Any sifus can recommend where to buy vintage Rolex? No luck in finding one I like
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If you talk about sport models, no luck is a norm . As for the rest of non popular, it's a piece a cake bro.
Keep looking, and impulse buy is require for purchasing. Don’t settle for second choice when you know you will be regretting in near future.
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true, i've learnt to know how and when pull trigger if you have the bullets. never look back regret of all the triggers i've pulled.
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wow! this question is the classis question. i had this question for sometime..end up ...i went for Rolex first...well! because i know rolex..the price either goes up..of if drop also its a slight drop...but Grand Seiko, even for being such a beautiful build..but its quite uncertain...hmmm
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wow! this question is the classis question. i had this question for sometime..end up ...i went for Rolex first...well! because i know rolex..the price either goes up..of if drop also its a slight drop...but Grand Seiko, even for being such a beautiful build..but its quite uncertain...hmmm
In terms of price retention or appreciation, Rolex is a clear winner. However I’m always still drawn by the level of quality in a GS.
Will most likely end up owning both sometime in my life.
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Totally agree with SLK. I have a feeling ill end up with both, rolex and gs. Actually I'm trying to find a nice affordable vs... Still haven't pull trigger.. Waiting
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While I also agree with you all about eventually owning both brands, I would also like to share with you my experience. When I wear the GS, I tend to be more aware of my wrist, very afraid of banging my watch against something as I don’t treat it like a watch, it’s more like a work of art. The Rolex on the other hand, gets worn with abandon, without a care in the world. It gets scratched and stuff and I really don’t care. Weird isn’t it?
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Go for vintage Rolex.. don’t think twice
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Depends on your budget but I'll go for the Rolex any day of the week.
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GS spring drive anytime, beautiful movement. I'll only go for Rolex if only it is a GMT, Sub or daytona. Others, i will only buy because it is Rolex on very good deal, not something nice to MY eyes.
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You can't go wrong with a Rolex with it's heritage, built quality and robustness also with a wide range of models to choose from, then of course depending on your budget.
As for GS, the snowflake is really nice, gaining quite a bit of popularity in the recent years, couple with the spring drive movement and refinement in the built quality, that is a watch to go for after the Rolex. ;D
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Mercedes or Lexus? Without doubt the Mercedes reputation is better but the fans of both camps can really argue out their support.
The Lexus is a great car, probably with features that can easily beat Mercedes and far better than it's Toyota sibling but it's genes are still Toyota.
The Spring drive movement should have been kept to the lower level range of watches with it's electronics inside and just build Grand Seiko with fully automatic movements. Mixing up hi-beat movements with Spring Drive just dilutes the desirability.
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If for the sake of keeping for good, either GS or Rolex would be fine. If there is an intention to trade off later on, perhaps Rolex? A 6694 seems a reasonable addition.
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Looking for investment guarantee...get a rolex. Looking for great watch, get a seiko...zaratsu finishing, spring drive movement
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Rolex all the way. then i'd get a seiko lol
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Well..I’ve to dig deep enough to find fews topics like this. Haha I’ve the same question..but on the other hand, hope someone could share where i could look for a vintage rolex nowadays? Please help a lost soul here. Thanks!
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I prefer Rolex if I need to fork out $$$$$ cos Rolex is still indisputable watch tools plus formal dress code compare to Grand Seiko
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If you option for an asset, Rolex it is. GS is a good watch but it consider as a liability
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Both would be good collection, but if I to choose 1,i go for rolex
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Get rolex than GS, wouldn’t go wrong for both
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I would go with the Rolex first as generally it will hold its value. After that if you feel the need to get another watch, consider the GS.
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JB is still MCO fasa 1. Rolex AD not yet opened.
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Love the GS dials, but Rolex still has that classic/classy look.